Have a job right around the corner where the homeowner wants new weatherstripping around an existing door, but not the stick-on foam stuff.
I know they make a tool specially designed for this application, but given that it is just one door and I can’t remember the name of the tool, I’m hoping to find another option. It would be great if the jamb didn’t have to come out and apart.
Anybody played with this before? Thoughts, tips, advice?
Thanks
Getting the details right for a wall assembly with the control layers to the exterior and lots of drying potential.
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See above msg. Methinks I remember you talking about doing this. Can you provide OP with some info?
Edited 11/13/2009 5:58 am ET by bd
Got it, thanks.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Rescource conservation tech. sells the router set up.
You can do a one "one off" with a REAL steady hand and a rotozip with an 1/8" spiral bit.
Practice on some mock ups first, it ain't for the timid.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Could you use a trim router with an edge guide, im sure they make a bit. Then clean out the last couple of inches with the rotozip, or multi-master, or knife and chisel? Im just thinking out loud with my fingers here, I have no interest to try this anytime soon.
Edited 11/13/2009 6:09 pm ET by danno7x
Ok, heres the deal. You COULD use a KEYWAY cutter in a trim router, not a winged slotcutter, bec. the nut would interfere. You need a flush blade.
The router theyt sell , mine is a Bosch, has a 45 degree guide to rout in the corner made by the stop to jamb.
I was leery of doing a circle head casement last year, but I could free hand it on the curve quite well. It's not worth reinventing the tool, its a winner, and the vac attachment is mucho important to clear the swarf outta the cut.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Rotozip or Dremel with the bit chucked shallow so the untooled part of the bit can ride on a guide tacked to the work. Might have to saw off & resharpen the end of the bit to avoid cutting too deep.
Or slip a bronze bushing sleeve cut to the appropriate length over the bit and offset the guide by its thickness.
Kidz do not try this at home....
PS--Popsicle stick cut to a scooped point removes swarf from 1/8" dadoes real nice.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Yeah, I have an asst. of bits and stuff like teflon tube that fits over the bit shanks and bearing enlargers, for guitar bindings and such. Most folks don't have that option. Burned up a few dremels in my time.
Serious work doing that WS sold by them tho' makes the tool worth it's weight in gold just about. The way it registers at 45 makes the bulb placement a snap to seal side ways and front to back.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Oh, yeah, I've known about those RCT tools for years, and want one of them. I'm a firm proponent of the philosophy that any excuse to buy a new tool is a good one. First time I get a job that calls for one, it's gonna get bought.
I was just trying to suggest a solution other than free-handing a 'zip to the OP, who might not be too sanguine about that sorta t'ing....
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
They hate nails BTW. On old retro fit? Check for trim nails and jamb extension nails, don't ask me how I know that.
carbide spiral up cut bits aren't cheap. even at 1/8th inch.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Shiny evidence of routed-off nails is worth a one-router-bit up-charge on my jobs, at least the remodel ones. I've done it a few times, twice on RCT jobs, once on a shelf-peg retrofit, etc.Customers are usually pretty sympathetic with these unforeseen-circumstance charges, especially since they rarely exceed $50 or so.AitchKay
I started running a rare earth mag in the path first now.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You buy up-cut bits from a store? I just make 'em as I need em outta old Piffin screws. Drill an eighth-inch hole in a titanium plate, then heat up the screw with a plasma torch and shove it through the hole with a hydraulic press. When it cools off, all ya gotta do is dress the edges a bit with a needle file or yer CNC.
Works great. Save a lotta dough that way....
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
I was just thinking of a way that someone could do it without diving right in and paying big bucks for a tool that dosent seem to have a good payback rate. I think Ill just say no if ever asked.
Yeah, its hard to justify a glorified die grinder for single use. You can't easily un-adapt it, at least my model.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I've had mine for 2 1/2 years, and only used it 3 times. Hard to justify.
The way I did it was to tell the customers that I had known of exactly the product they needed for a couple of decades, but had never had a job that would justify the purchase price in all that time.
I proposed that they reimburse me for 1/2 the cost of tool as part of the total cost of the job. They went for it, and now I've got the tool.
It still was a big expense for me, and it hasn't really paid for itself -- maybe I should tell future clients that I have to add a small, per-job tool surcharge...? You get to do that when you rent a specialized tool, but you can't go out and rent an RCT router!
AitchKay
About the same here, it lives in the van, but I never stock all the diff. weatherstrips. Small fortune to be fully geared up.
Seems if you rout the groove, you want the strip PRONTO, and don't always know before hand which size.
But it IS a cool tool.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Ever think of selling it?
"It is what it is."
No, cuz as soon as I do, I just KNOW, I'll snag a tasty job for it..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I was just faced with the same dilema.
I couldn't afford the machine so I remove the old original stops, back rabbited them on my table saw and used the Q-Lon frame weatherstrip available at HD and pushed it in. It worked great!
"It is what it is."