I am moving to a very rural area and sadly I am giving up my low latency DSL for satellite internet. The way the property looks, I think I am going to need to place the dish on the garage to optimize the signal strength. The garage is detached and offers a better view of the southern sky.
That said, in order to get the cables to the house I will need to run the cables under a significant amount of concrete. I have no problem with that,I can get that part done, I just need know what to run so the install goes well.
I need to trench for and go under some concrete in order to run the cables. My question is how many and what type of wire do I need to run?
Here is what I think I need:
Two good quality RG6 runs, I will leave them blank at the ends. Will that be sufficient? Can I run them in the same pipe? How close to my electrical run can they be to avoid interference. Thanks in advance. Rob.
Edit to add:
I am also running a 60 amp service to the garage, yes I Know that is a lot but I need to run a welder and a Kiln. I would like to run them in the same trench. Help, I hate digging.
Edited 7/17/2008 12:05 am by rjgogo
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Make sure you run them separately and through a conduit. The conduit is if you ever have a problem in the future you can replace the cables without breaking up the slab.
Thats all ya need to and from the dish.
Be aware, some co's, like Dishnet I have, aren't fond of mounting to a building, they prefer a concrete anchored steel post in the ground..any wobble and you lose signal..the post is supposedly better than building mount like most TV dishs.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations
You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
The connections on the co-ax are probably more important than the co-ax itself. Use the really good ones, snap-and-seal or something like that. Or let the dish installers deal with BOTH ends.
They make a double co-ax for applications like this.
I think the separation required from hi-voltage cable is something like 12", but I suggest even more. Also, metal conduit might provide even better shielding.
+1 on the conduit for the future. Make it larger than you ever think you will need. I think PVC would probably be ok, you ought to get all the shield you need from the cable itself.
Be sure to use the best co-ax cable you can find, due to the length of your run and desire for a good shield.
Good luck.
I would also recommend a separate conduit for the coax. You might want to pull ethernet/phone/alarm cables at the same time, even if you don't use them right away. Or at least leave yourself a pull rope.
If you're not planning on more than one set top box, then two runs of coax should be fine, but one will be dedicated to the set top and the other to your sat. modem. I'd pull a couple extra coax if you've got the $$ on hand.
If this is a two way satellite connection (some use your phone line for outbound traffic and the sat. for downloads only), you cannot install it yourself by law and it has to be pretty damn accurately aimed to get a good upload to the sat. Not to mention that the modems stink (at least Hughes modems did, they'd burn up).
Best of luck,
Z
Thanks all for the advice on the Coax. I might just run the conduit and let Hughes pull the wire. Sounds like the connections are key.
I will definatly run a piple for the electrical.
It is a two way set up.
I wouldn't run coax that far. Place the data modem in the garage and run ethernet to the house. I'd run separate conduit for data, video, and power. And, because I'm anal, I'd use 4" schedule 40...
I'd not have that modem any farther than the desktop, rebooting is often required after a rain fade, and haveing to schlep away to some location is not gonna cut it in my book. My modem is within reach of my wireless router and desk top 'puter. I can reboot everything from one place at one time, and get it all back w/out leaving my chair.
Often a sat modem needs the power and in/out cables completely discon. for a clean reboot after one minute of total isolation.
Just sayin.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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You gonna play that thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Ln-SpJsy0
Is Cel service available in this "very rural area" you are moving to? Might want to check on the availability of cellular based broadband. I have Verizon, but it is offered by pretty much all of the cellular providers. I have been happy with the speed. It's not perfect, but compared to the complaints I hear about satellite services, I'm happy.
I wish, I wish but it is a dead zone for Cell coverage as well. My Verizon card works sometimes but it is very very slow.
The Hughes satellite Internet service does NOT upload to the satelllite. It uses radio waves to a tower like the cellular telephone services. The only advantage of the satellite is faster downloads but the latency is too long to be of much use to gamers.
Also, the Hughes system strips off some of the identification characters making it unable to use with any corporate system that uses the Virtual Private Network protocols for security.
Terry
I'm sure because I'm not extremely familiar with satellite internet providers at the moment, the last time I looked they were still using the asymmetric sat down, phone line up. I will have to get more familiar as my father just moved back to the boonies and misses broadband. Any favored providers, or should I just surf dslreports.com for them?On the other hand, I'm spec'ing out a DS3 (45mbps symmetric ) and a 100mbps connection for my office ;) As more fiber gets lit in the city it keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, hopefully one day will have something like they have in Korea, full 100mbps connection to your house! Now we're cooking with gas!Z