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   Duncan_Mahoney | Jan 14, 2000 09:32am | #1

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   The SN65C will shoot .148" and .165" nails. The SN65C will also jam when using .113" sheathing nails because the magazine is wide enough to let the strips overlap slightly. The SN65 and SN65C also have a extra piece at the top of the gun that gives them a bit more power than the SN60 has. The SN65 has the bigger "drive train" combined with the magazine of the SN60 and it's a great combination if you don't need to drive nails bigger in dia. than .131".

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   William_Brennen | Jan 14, 2000 09:45am | #2

   *Rockford,Senco makes a third gun, the SN65. It shares the same air motor as the SN65C, but has a narrower magazine. The "C" refers to common, as in .162" diameter shanks. I called Senco and heard it from the horse's mouth. The rep I spoke with was quick to discourage me from getting this gun unless I really needed to shoot the fat spikes. He said that when you try to load two racks of 8d's (.120") in the SN65C, the second rack often wedges aside the tail end of the first rack, due to the magazine being so wide! The SN60 is just like the SN65, only less powerful. I would stay away from it unless all your work is in white wood. Senco seems to have unloaded a bunch of these at Home Depot.After test-shooting a bunch of guns, I bought the Porter-Cable FR350. It is light and balanced, inexpensive, with awesome power. I love it, and it has been good to me. If you'll be doing production, the Senco may be more durable, but that is purely speculation driven by their stellar reputation.By the way, you don't want to shoot those big spikes into 2x lumber unless the inspector insists on it. They split the wood terribly, nullifying the supposed greater shear values. More of the .131 nails is a better way to get the strength. This also came from the Senco rep.Bill

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   Bucksnort_Billy | Jan 19, 2000 04:44am | #3

   *Rockford, I checked out a 600 and a 650 framing guns, could they be the 60 and 65? I just added a FramePro650 and it shoots .113" to .148" diameter, 2" - 3 1/2" nails. It also shoots a "slightly" clipped head nail ( looks good in decks). I've used Senco, Paslode, and generic nails in it, and have never had any overlapping or jamming when sheathing with 8ds, or with any other nail, for that matter. The gun slams ( but, hey, you control the adjustable setter!). The 650 is supposed to have more power with the taller chamber. So far, yellow pine is no problem, even frozen. Just wish it was as light as an Hitachi.Don't know why the 65's not listed on the box, but around here, .131" is a code book framing nail.Getting older, and knowing it, BBI have and have had a lot of nail guns. The most heavily used are Sencos. My report is definitly bias by their reliability.

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   William_Brennen | Jan 19, 2000 12:37pm | #4

   *The Framepro 600 and 650 are clipped-head nailguns, while the SN60 and SN65 and SN65C are all full round head nailers. The nails are collated at different angles, typically about 20-22 degrees for full-round and 31 degrees for clipped. The clipped are better for remodel work IMHO because the guns are more pointy-nosed and with shorter magazines than the 22 degree guns. The full round nails tend to run a bit less expensive per nail, which accounts for their ubiquity in the tracts. I've never used the Framepro line, but I gotta love that centered nail magazine, just like on my old SFN2B trim gun. You can use either hand to shoot and still see what you're doing. I have yet to hear of anyone regretting buying a Senco.Bill

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   G.LaLonde | Jan 22, 2000 01:55am | #5

   *Just for information.....I bought a new Framepro 600 last year when they first came out. It is a real nice gun , but I noticed it was getting doggy and blamed it on the cold weather. Soon it just quit firing completely. I had only shot about 4 boxes of nails with it. I called Senco and explained the problem and they wanted to know the serial # of the gun. They told me that every one of those guns manufactured before December of 1998 is defective and they supply you with a completely different and new firing kit to install. It makes a huge difference in the power of the gun and is easy to install. They will do it for you if you don't want to tackle it yourself. If you have an early model of this gun, I would call Senco and get the fix!

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   tom_herman | Jan 29, 2000 10:15pm | #6

   *aren't earthquake prone areas, (Calif & most of the west coast), required by local codes to use the fatter .162 common nails ???

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   Rockford_ | Jan 29, 2000 10:15pm | #7

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   What exactly is te difference between these two nailers? I looked at a box of "common" nails, .131 dia. and the application list included the SN60. What does the SN65C do the the others don't?