Good Morning All,
I have been off line for a few months. Time to come back. Can anyone share what the going rate for installing vinyl siding is, per square . I need to hang 32 sq. in addition to all the fascia and soffet. The house is very high in places and is very complicated. I am in the mid west near Madison WI. I need to come up with a figure and was hoping there was a per sq price that was used as a start point. Thank you all. Rick
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Sounds like your job is down to tough access and the per ft price will not pay. Try to go by time it will take on this one.
To make money on a job like the one you are talking about I charged about $145 a sq for the siding. Soffit and Facia was $5 a lineal foot. Labor only.
What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
Stilletto,
With that $145 per sq. number, how do you figure that into man hours. Always curious how others do it, and I am always learning something new. When I first looked at this job my gut said 3 weeks for 3 full time and one part time person. This is for labor for all instalation,siding,soffit and facia. But with that in mind I am over twice your 145 number, unless the soffit and facia will pick up the extra. Can you shed some light on this ,I think I am missing something. Thanks . Rick
$145 a sq for siding around here is almost three times going rate around here which is under $60 a sq I believe. I work with one other guy on siding and we split the money when its done. I go through and trim everything first which takes a few days then it's nothing but siding until the jobs done.
I can hang around 7 sq a day by myself as can the other guy, so the jobs go real fast. So for you man hour theory you should be able to hang 7 sq in a 8 hr day solo.
$5 a lineal ft for soffit and facia adds up in a hurry. From bare wall to finished facia a 30 ft wall in an hour. Not bad $150 an hour for one man inluding cutting all his own pieces. Thats on a second story, first story should be around 45 ft a hour.
If Tyvek needs to be put on thats an extra as well.
My bills and overhead are next to nothing yours might dictate the doubled price. Are materials figured in your price? Mine is just labor. What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
Stilletto.
I will be going over to the site tomorrow to measure everything and I will take your numbers with me to see how they jive with mine. There are some extencive runs of soffit and facia as well as some small time consuming areas . I am only figuring labor and want to be fare but dont want to be working the last week for nothing, so I will be soaking in all suporting data that I can. How do you cut your vinyl ,is it by snips or have the tool GODS created a tool for cutting this stuff.Thanks again. Rick
You can use a circular saw with a plywood blade installed backwards works great! Snips and scoring for the rest.
USA,
No chipping, did you make a jig for the saw to rest on or just cut freehand.?
Depends how much cutting, but often resting on a cardboard box. Best thing is there is no grab by the saw teeth to smash the vinyl. I have an installation box from alcoa or GP I forget which, last time I looked at it, it had some good info. I just called them to get it.
I have a cut table made by Malco I believe. It will cut 4-5 pieces of siding or soffit at a time. It uses a circular saw on a slide table that you push or pull through the siding.
As for your soffit and facia, the price I gave you was for aluminum. If you are doing wood or anything else you will have to raise the price. I used to take a cordless circular saw up onto the planks with me to cut but I dropped it and haven't replaced it. Now I just use my snips. Thats the way I learned how to do it so it's not a big deal.
Make sure you do your j-channel around openings right and install drip caps as well. What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
Do you put your saw blade on backwards when you cut on that jig?
I have a simple homemade jig that I run my circular saw on to cut siding and soffitt, and I always keep the blade in the saw normally. I pull the saw across the piece rather than push it though. It makes a razor sharp, super smooth cut. I've never understood putting the saw blade in backward. Even in the dead of winter, the siding doesn't crack cutting it this way.
-Sawdaddy
My blade is mounted normal and I pull it through the piece. For Aluminum soffit I push or pull.
I use a cut table made for siding work, I used to have a homemade table until I got this one for $300. What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
I just couldn't get off the money to buy one of them fancy cut tables. Not when I could make one outta scrap for free.
But I drool on the tables every time I'm at the supply house...
I'm not sure what they run new. I got the cut table and a 10'6" Van Mark aluminum break for $600 out the door. Both were almost new and the guy was retiring from the trades.
I bought it before he could change his mind. Sweet deal.What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
Wow!
Yer not kiddin' sweet deal. I just saw the cut table in the tool crib catalog for 600 bucks. Not to mention the brake...
Do you run a carbide or steel blade in your saw?
Headstrong, I'll take on anyone!
Carbide works great. I haven't tried a steel one for cutting soffit or siding.What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
all u need is the biggest pair of snips u can buy...not the yellow/red/etc. handled snips but the big 10"/12" ones...and a roll of tape to protect from callouses...lol..
Thank you all,
All your help is great, I will bring you all up to speed tomorrow after I really go over this place and figure out how much it will cost for us to do it. And if we are going to do it. Rick
Afternoon All,
I went to the job site this am to measure sideing and facia and soffit, There will be 33 SQ. of sideing and 495 lin. ft. of soffit a little more on the facia for returns. There is a lot of ladder work and a lot of laying on small roofs putting pans on. I talked to a friend today who told me that between $40 and $60 per sq. would be fair. With $40 that adds up to 4 people doing the whole job in just under 13 hours. $60 is not much better. Given all the angles and ups and downs on this house I went with my gut which was around three weeks for three full and one part time ( THE BOSS ) so the figure was between 10k to 12k. Myself ,the Boss, and one of the other guys on the crew all did the math this weekend without any communications with each other and all three of us came up with very close numbers. One was low but did not walk around to the back of the house. His numbers changed quickly this morning. The job would be nice but I just cant see us working for a week too a week and a half for nothing. Rick
Whats the best way to cut vinyl soffit material into those short lenghts? I don't do much siding but I'm finishing a garage that was never completed. I guess this is good way to learn, the soffit's only 7 1/2' off the ground. Thanks Jem
Headstrong, I'll take on anyone!
Vinyl soffit is easier to cut than aluminum in the fact that it doesn't flatten out when cut with hand snips.
A carbide blade on my saw table works great. If you are just finishing a job, don't bother with a cut table. Get a big pair of snips. Just cut one piece nice and square, then use that as your pattern, mark out a whole piece of soffit with your pattern and cut away with your snips.
I am siding a house right now with vinyl, maybe a good thread idea. People give a bad name because it installed wrong by the wrong people. Maybe show the tools for doing it as well. What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
7-1/2' off the ground, I wouldn't need a ladder for that one! Maybe a five gallon bucket. I am a goony POS though. :)
Set up a couple of step ladders with a walk plank in between makes putting facia on easier to.
What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
I'm going to set up 2 ladders with a 2x12 so I don't crick my neck. I can reach an 8' ceiling on my flat feet.
I was going to use a scms with the blade in backwards if thats easier? Whatdaya think?
Headstrong, I'll take on anyone!
Sounds like you are my height if you can reach 8' on flat feet.
If you have a SCMS go for it. The more teeth the better. Easier and faster gotta love that.
I use 2x12's for planks on first story stuff like that.
Good luck man.
Edit: I have heard of people using SCMS to cut soffit with, I haven't done it my self. You probably don't have to mount the blade backwards just pull the saw towards you through the material.
What's wrong with me? I could ask you the exact same thing.
Edited 8/10/2006 7:14 pm ET by Stilletto