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   Steve_Weeks | Dec 07, 2000 10:33pm | #1

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   According to UPC Section 301.2c(1), no breaker may be vertically lower than the spill level of the basin so as to preclude back-siphoning through the home's wiring system.

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   Rich_Regan | Dec 08, 2000 11:07am | #2

   *Is that the only stipulation? The breakers would be above the spill level. I want to put the sink about 3 feet away from the panel.

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   Bob_Walker | Dec 08, 2000 01:26pm | #3

   *The only thing I can find (after a partial search) in the NEC is 240-24 (c) which restricts overcurrent devices (other than supplemental ocd's) from being located in bathrooms, which are defined as having a sink and either a shower, tub, or toilet.Persoanlly, I don't think I'd put a panel w/in 3 feet of a sink

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   Mr._Pita | Dec 08, 2000 04:57pm | #4

   *You're braver than me. I don't think I'd go within 7 feet - that's about the max armspan of a fairly tall person, and so there's no easy way for someone to touch both.

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   Dave_Richeson | Dec 09, 2000 03:43am | #5

   *Bob, since your code book is handy, see what it says about wet enviroments, i.e. with in 4' of a sink. Bathrooms and kitchens have the 4' radius rule for GFCI protection. Keeps you from dumping that toaster with the 2' cord in the sink.My code book is in a storage shed waiting for me to finish my new shop. I believe a panel box in that close a proximatey to a sink would need to be of the weather tight varity. I personaly would not want anyone to be able to make contact with a sink and a panel box at the same time, thus I like Mr. Pita's 7 foot sugestion. My wingspan is 6'1", and I've been

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   Barry_Miller | Dec 09, 2000 05:06am | #6

   *Nobody has at yet picked up on Steve Meeks' bad joke, though it ain't really that bad, if he's lampooning codes and not funning Rich.

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   Frank_DuVal | Dec 09, 2000 06:51am | #7

   *I got it right away, reminded me of the Three Stooges episode " A plumbing we will go" where they connect the conduit to the water pipes and make sprinklers out of ceiling fixtures and a wave comes out of the TV.Frank DuVal

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   Bob_Walker | Dec 09, 2000 11:36am | #8

   *Dave,Doesn't seem to meet the definition of "wet location", although if it's in a basement, maybe.A "Wet Location" includes "installations underground." OTOH, a "Damp Location" includes "some basements" so to me it isn't clear if a basement is "underground."Even so, I can't find distance restrictions for either wet or damp locations; talks about mounting and type of enclosure. 373-2.

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   Coolflow_ | Dec 09, 2000 04:20pm | #9

   *Yeah-I liked the line "No wonder the water can't flow-the pipe is all plugged with wires." The other good one is where they are handymen fixing the doorbell.There is no requirement other than the 36" in front and 30" side clearances that I can find. If you are concerned with water splashing into the panel you could use an outdoor enclosure. Other than that you are just as likely to get a shock holding on to the panel cover with one hand and flipping the breaker with the other as one hand in the water and the other hand flipping the breaker-you are grounded in either situation (unless the tub and drain are pvc)

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   CaseyR_ | Dec 14, 2000 04:10am | #10

   *Some years ago there was a book called, I believe, The Complete Practical Joker. Taked about some jokers that called people up and told them to put pillow cases over their telephones because the phone company was going to blow out the lines. They claimed most people fell for it...

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   Rich_Regan | Dec 14, 2000 04:11am | #11

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   How close can a laundry tub be to the electrical service panel?