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Sketchup IFC planner

Gene_Davis | Posted in General Discussion on March 6, 2007 04:26am

It is -19F outside, with a stiff wind blowing. I already ran the snowblower around and walked the dog, and decided it is too cold to ski.

So I decided I would check my supplier’s IFC takeoff for a foundation we’ll build after snowmelt, and use Sketchup to do it.

SU has the ability to make and use “components,” like a lot of other 3D design packages, but its “inference engine” is really special, and permits you to build things like this really fast. This little foundation, about 30′ x 40′ in footprint size, took 35 minutes to do.

My supplier was way off on corners, and a little under on straights. In the pic, the blocks that are cut from full-length straights are colored the mustard shade.

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  1. tek | Mar 06, 2007 05:37pm | #1

    Don't show that to your supplier or he'll be asking you to do that for all his quotes!  The components are key in sketchup.  What's really cool is if you go to to 'statistics' tab in the component menu, it gives you the number of instances.

  2. blue_eyed_devil | Mar 06, 2007 05:48pm | #2

    Gene, that is incredible. Your talent with that program is enviable.

    Anyway you can start lessons based on how you did that? I've managed to make a cube or two with SU!

    blue

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      Gene_Davis | Mar 06, 2007 06:05pm | #3

      Have you been here and viewed all the videos?http://forum.sketchup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26Edit: Whoops! The above link has some really good stuff, but a whole lotta basic training can be seen in the videos http://sketchup.google.com/gsu5vtvideos.htmlat this URL:

      Edited 3/6/2007 10:09 am ET by Gene_Davis

      1. blue_eyed_devil | Mar 06, 2007 08:30pm | #5

        Yes Gene, I've done the videos. Thats why I can make a cube LOL!

        blue"...

        keep looking for customers who want to hire  YOU.. all the rest are looking for commodities.. are you  a commodity ?... if you get sucked into "free estimates" and  "soliciting bids"... then you are a commodity... if your operation is set up to compete as a commodity, then have at it..... but be prepared to keep your margins low and your overhead  high...."

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          EricPaulson | Mar 07, 2007 01:40am | #11

          ............you've gotten about as far as I have Blue![email protected]

           

           

          WHICH content will be free, of course; WHICH content will require registration; but WHICH content will be available only to members of FineHomebuilding.com.???

           

           

           

        2. BobKovacs | Mar 07, 2007 03:40am | #13

          If you want to learn practical applications for Sketchup like what Gene is doing, buy the book by Dennis Fukai called "3D Construction Modeling" (or something like that).   It's got a CD of video tutorials to walk you through how to "build" a house piece by piece in Sketchup.

          Bob

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    draftguy | Mar 06, 2007 06:24pm | #4

    ran 4 miles this morning in shorts and 13 degrees, and i thought that was cold . . .

    Always enjoy your SketchUp work. We've got the program here and i keep looking for time to learn it. One of these days you'll guilt me into it.

  4. jrnbj | Mar 06, 2007 10:39pm | #6

    Hey Gene, are you doing this with the free Google download, or the paid version (seems to me I remember the $$ being pretty steep when it changed from free-ware to commercial)?

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      draftguy | Mar 06, 2007 11:43pm | #7

      We paid $200 for our version (about a year ago). Some might consider it costly, but that's nothing compared to other programs.

    2. john7g | Mar 07, 2007 12:35am | #9

      The differences from what I've seen on the paid version is print options & the ability to export 'video' walk-throughs of a model and probably a few more but those were the biggest points that I recognized.  The free version is still pretty powerful and you can do a lot with even though is free (still can't get over that).  I found the learning curve to be pretty easy expecially after watching their tutorials. 

  5. Piffin | Mar 06, 2007 11:58pm | #8

    You sure you have those corners right size? seems off by all the ICFs I've done so far, but I never used Amvic

     

     

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      Gene_Davis | Mar 07, 2007 01:01am | #10

      I think they look tight, too, but the dims are straight from their specs, both the hard copy and the download. The model is to scale. 26-1/2 x 14-1/2 is the number, with a 6" core block going 11" overall width, resulting in 5" overall foam thickness.The Logix system with which we have some second hand familiarity, has 16 x 32 corners, thus a corner block has the same face area as a straight 16 x 48 (outside corner), and creates a running 1/3 bond, not the 1/4 that the Amvic does. Logix's corner size makes for an easier takeoff.Amvic's corner size makes takeoffs more taxing, for the math-challenged amongst us.Checking suppliers here, we can save almost $1.75 per block, Amvic versus Logix, and use 6% less concrete.

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    Mongo | Mar 07, 2007 02:49am | #12

    You got sketchup skills, man.

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