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   Sphere | Jul 17, 2009 02:42pm | #1

   Faster but a little more exp. to use the solid stain as back prime.  carefully applying cheaper primer to back is more time consuming..so...depends on your technique.

   I'd pre stain it all , in or over a catch gutter to reclaim any slops and drips. I love solid stain over paint anyday.

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   CCI | Jul 17, 2009 03:47pm | #3

   Not to start a heated discussion, but -

   Why is soild stain better than paint?

   I have used it and since it seems to cover the grain why not just use paint?

   Someone once told me that the solid stain is "absorbed" by the wood rather than "coating" the wood.  Is that true? 

   Should the solid stain be more resistant to chipping?  Does it slowly wear out as opposed to failing like paint if there is a moisture issue?

   I hate to paint so I like to do the best job once and not have to deal with it again for as long as possible.

   Thanks.

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   Sphere | Jul 17, 2009 03:58pm | #4

   Yes, it won't shrink up and peel away as paint does. The film thickness is much less. And the colorant can penetrate into the surface more readily.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   jc21 | Jul 17, 2009 04:51pm | #5

   Ditto to what Sphere said. Some years ago I did an 1880's vintage store front which required almost annual repainting. Stripped it to bare wood (quite a job with all the architectural details) and used Cabot's OVT. Went ten years before it was recoated ........ faded but no chipping or peeling. Another job was a garage sided with T-111. In a shaded area, the original Olympic stain was twenty years old. Faded but in good shape otherwise. imho definitely more resistant to peeling and chipping than paint.

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   Pelipeth | Jul 18, 2009 01:51pm | #7

   Stain does NOT peel

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   catfish | Jul 18, 2009 05:10pm | #8

   Its coming off in small chips on a house I resided after Ivan.  Treated balusters on a deck.  Small chips coming off showing the wood behind it.   This is maybe a 100 feet off the Gulf.  Only one section of railing.  Nowhere else on the house that I've seen.  It lasted almost 4 years.

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   Pelipeth | Jul 18, 2009 07:59pm | #9

   Interesting...........Mill glaze??

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   catfish | Jul 18, 2009 08:04pm | #10

   It seemed to be only one spot on the railings.  Looked like it hardened, cracked and fell off.  Very small pieces. smaller than half a fingernail.  Just one place on the house I saw.  It could be mill glaze, I built the railings but didn't do the stain.

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   calvin | Jul 18, 2009 01:49pm | #6

   Thanks.  I understand the labor/material cost thing.  Homowner labor and money.

   The reason for the question I guess was in relation to the film characteristics of paint versus the penetrating nature of stain.  If there's no film to be pushed off with marginal moisture passing when using stain, would priming (staining) be a wasted effort.  Then when I thought about solid color stain being a whole lot like paint, became more confused.

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   jc21 | Jul 17, 2009 03:08pm | #2

   Been a long while ago and in a different area of the country (coastal Maine)  .....we primed everything with stain. Sawhorses and a roller. Then another coat after after installation - still wouldn't do it any other way.

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   Edited 7/17/2009 8:23 am by jc21