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Straightening a Leaning Detached Gargage

| Posted in General Discussion on September 16, 2000 12:21pm

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Anyone have any advice for straightening an old and leaning 20 x 20 foot garage? I was planning on using a “come a long”, and a tree? is there a better way? Any reference materials?

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  1. Guest_ | Sep 06, 2000 08:48pm | #1

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    Hi Tim,

    On which side of the garage were you going to plant the tree?

    Apparently, we have lots of time to answer this post.

    Gabe

    1. Guest_ | Sep 07, 2000 01:22am | #2

      *Be careful. A guy got killed in NW Ohio a couple of weeks ago when an old garage collapsed on him.Consider using a few come alongs on the inside, going from lower corner to upper corner. Be very careful with the anchor points, and don't try to do it at one haul: tighten em up, wait a day or 2, repeat, repeat, repeat ....

      1. Guest_ | Sep 07, 2000 02:45am | #3

        *For years, my best day (fiancially speaking) was straightening up an old garage. I showed up with a pile of linial and within two hours the old guy came out with the check! He was so thrilled because he thought he was going to have to tear his garage down and repour new footings. I was his savior and he thanked my mom for years afterword (she and he were friends).I used a combination of push braces, pull braces and my wall jacks. A 20 x 20 will straigten up rather easily, assuming there aren't any diagonal braces installed.blue

        1. Guest_ | Sep 07, 2000 03:30am | #4

          *Add some braces to keep it from going too far while your'e pulling with the come-along.

  2. Tim_O'Neill | Sep 07, 2000 11:24pm | #5

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    Thanks for responding. Speaking of anchor points, I was going to drill through the upper corner where front and side walls and truss meet. Right through the caps of the walls, with a 3/8 wire rope and then a 3x 3 sheet or 2 of 3/4 ply on theout side of the wall. The 3/4 ply would act as a flat panel to pull the leaning corner in question. Do you think that would be stout enough?
    t

  3. Guest_ | Sep 08, 2000 12:30am | #6

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    Tim, I don't know that a 3x3 sheet of plywood is going to help, when you are going to be pulling from the top plates. I would use a piece of angle iron running parallel with the plates.

    Good luck , Steve

    1. Guest_ | Sep 09, 2000 02:08am | #7

      *Bob, isnt't your plan only gonna' wrack the structure back to plumb? Wouldn't it be better to start with getting the floor back to level first?

      1. Guest_ | Sep 09, 2000 02:13am | #8

        *Bob beat me to it, but be very careful if using comealongs.When faced with what you describe I use the method described by Blue. This way, you are in control of which way to shift and how much. Can't say the same with comealongs.All summer long I've been meaning to get up to my brother's to straighten his 20 x 20 garage. Say...you're not in Napa, CA are you???

        1. Guest_ | Sep 09, 2000 02:28am | #9

          *Rich,I figure rack it back, then jump on the floor .I was assuming a slab without problems, I'm not sure where the floor issue came up.I like blue's idea better than come alongs, a lot safer. Probably depends on the siding and how much short term rigidity it provides.Never did enough framing to think of the push and pull braces.Bob

          1. Guest_ | Sep 09, 2000 02:48am | #10

            *Where did he say the floor was a problem? I should move rather easily without the come along. I would use blue's method too, but I don't think a come-along is as dangerous as you guy's make it out to be. It's not like hooking it up to the trailer hitch and pulling.Do you know what to do after you get it plumb to keep it plumb?

          2. Guest_ | Sep 13, 2000 04:39am | #11

            *The front of my leaning garage is "all hole", with almost nothing in the way of side walls next to the overhead door. So I've planted the tree, and in the meantime I got some braces and comealongs. But once I get the thing racked where I want it, how do I keep it there?

          3. Guest_ | Sep 13, 2000 08:23am | #12

            *The floor issue can up in my mind. I've done exactly five of these and each was built on a wood subfloor. So the concern with the floor was my own presumption. BTW: once plumb, brace.

          4. Guest_ | Sep 13, 2000 08:24am | #13

            *The floor issue can up in my mind. I've done exactly five of these and each was built on a wood subfloor. So the concern with the floor was my own presumption. BTW: once plumb, brace, then sheer or whatever is needed.

          5. Guest_ | Sep 14, 2000 09:40am | #14

            *Did a good job of pulling a wall with some chain and my FJ-40. Braced the shite out of it, too.

          6. Guest_ | Sep 14, 2000 05:49pm | #15

            *John Mikol (Post #11),There are a couple of things you can do to keep the open end of your garage from going out of plumb. The first is to box whatever wall you have there with plywood. This will help but the real solution is to run diagonal braces in the ceiling plane. When a garage leans at the door end the ceiling plane, which should be a rectangle, becomes a parallelogram. A couple of 2x4s nailed to the joists will impart a lot of resistance. I'd run them out out of the corners on a 45 degree angle and I would make them long enough to meet at the middle.Steve

          7. Guest_ | Sep 14, 2000 08:31pm | #16

            *Hi John,seriously..... you can add wing walls to the front of the garage on each side of the openning.Extend them out 4 ft. and cross brace them. cover with trelis.Gabe

          8. Guest_ | Sep 15, 2000 02:37am | #17

            *If you're real handy with the mortar, you can make these "flying buttress" outta' stone.

          9. Guest_ | Sep 16, 2000 12:21am | #18

            *Tim, don't know if this is too late, I haven't had much time this week. Brace at the wall ties. Run diagonal braces from the center of the back wall to the center of the side walls, and from center of the side walls to the center of the front wall. Nail into the plates, and 2 - 16d nails into each tie. this is all you need to do the job.Steve

  4. Tim_O'Neill | Sep 16, 2000 12:21am | #19

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    Anyone have any advice for straightening an old and leaning 20 x 20 foot garage? I was planning on using a "come a long", and a tree? is there a better way? Any reference materials?

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