can anyone help me with an advise about type of strapping required when stubbing out . the inspector told me that I need a special strap to protect against twisting when I install later the valves for fixtures.
thanks and happy holidays
can anyone help me with an advise about type of strapping required when stubbing out . the inspector told me that I need a special strap to protect against twisting when I install later the valves for fixtures.
thanks and happy holidays
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Insist the "inspecter" show you how it is to be done..after all, he/she has the golden sword. What are you? a mind reader?
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.
It seems quite possible that the inspector means the "ells" that have the ears on them for fastening to blocking?I can't for life of me remember the correct name of the darn things.
I think they are called "pex stoppers" LOL, or "say whats"?
I just know they r brass and take a beating...brain fart here too, no clue as to the name.
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Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.
"Drop Eared Elbows",
Darn good to know that if I let the old brain rest awhile it can still function a bit anyway.
They are available in brass and cpvc for sure I know.
Edited 12/22/2006 10:03 pm ET by dovetail97128
For copper another option (though probably more expensive) is the copper (or maybe copper-plated) plates with holes in them. Nail across adjacent studs, run pipe through one of the holes, and solder. Good especially with steel studs, since it keeps the pipe away from the steel.
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If you're using PEX the nice way to stub out is with a fitting like this, fastened to a wood block between the studs:
http://www.pexsupply.com/categories.asp?cID=486
There is a matching item for use with copper pipe--you solder your pipe to it and it fastens to a block just like the above.
wwhere did pex come from here? The title says copper pipe
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Got me confused to!
"I" alluded the pex. Because anyone who plumbed with CU already should know that the brass street els are attached to the framing in any high vibraition area(s)...
Pex sux for nippligage..ask a real Plumber or a HO that tried the method.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.
You guys are easily confused. I did read the title. The easiest example to find online is the PEX version of the fitting. I told him there's also a brass version for copper pipe. It ain't that hard is it?
Does the inspector think you're going to just get the valves and fixtures started on the thread and not hold the adaptor in place while you tighten them? I thought the hex was there to keep it from turning.
I don't agree with most of the posts, the inspector has to tell you what he is talking about, he also has to tell you what part of the code that dosen't apply; you should not have to figure out what he has in his mind. Lots of luck.
"If all else fails,read the directions"
But suffice it to say that brass drop-ear elbows fastened to blocking will pass any inspection.
I have seen guys solder on a regular copper elbow and then a short nipple of 1/2" copper sticking out of the wall. They put in a wood block and a copper strap. That will not pass inspection here because the strap does nothing to resist twisting forces on the elbow, regardless of which pipe the put it on.
Pleny of inspectors only need to mark it as "improper fitting"Jusst like many will simply state, "Lacking sufficient fire-blocking" and let you figure it out
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The brass fitting you are looking for is also called a 'drop-eared 90'. Has 2 holes - the ears - so you can screw the fitting to a block in the wall. Similar in appearance to the pex fitting alluded to above.
try a 1/2 inch by 18 inch holdrite comes in different lenghts if needed
Several ways to fix a copper pipe in a location.
As mentioned drop eared 90's are used quite often for screwed attachments, like shower heads, tub spouts, & hose bibbs.
For standard stub out of copper for an angle stop we use holdrite by hubbard industries. It's a copper plated starp that spans the studs wioth holes in them 5/8" 7/8" & 1-1/8" for 1/2" , 3/4" & 1" copper pipe.
You solder the pipe directly to the strap.
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