Andrew C Hinjew told me to get structolite for my log space overcoat ( sorry Doud, DAUBING)..so I got 200lbs and a big roto rooter to mix it up…I read the bag, got a handle on it, got a plan…BUT
My upstairs hallway is green rocked ( no more than first coat of mud, and REALLY bad at that) and yes , sit down…half of the angled pcs hung are…well INSIDE OUT..( I bought it this way)..sooooooooooo
Can I safely plaster over that with the structolite? I mean the back side of green board..I guess they had some left over from the adjacent bathroom..and used scraps to “geterdone…”
Now after reading the bag, I don’t think I can use it as an EXTERIOR finish over the wire mesh, but after a few more miles of wire and outlets I CAN use it as a finish betwix the logs?
If no to all my questions…Andrew C Hinjew has a shipment of 4 bags in his car late at night..premixed…LOL
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Hinjew on call here......
The story goes y'all that the Speremiester and me were jawin' on the phone one day..he was wondering what to do about chinkin' his log abode. I told him when I had my log cabin in virginia I put up wire mesh then put tempo boards on the inside...went outside and compressed morter into the mesh. When the mortar was dry the next day I took all the boards down and did the mortar from inside....but noooooo the Spheremiester didn't wanna do that so I "suggested" that "possibly" Structolite might work if he did ut like 3/4 full in the center and then used a waterproof filler the rest of the way. I said I didnt think Structolite was water resisitant but that he could check it out cause it was cheap and easy to work with.
OK so I straightened my rep out and got that offa my hairy chest.
Now...I still think he can use the lite and do as I said. just fill say the inside up tot he mesh and then use mortor on from the mesh to the exterior. I also suggested using a liquid latex mortor additive to further water proof it and keepin it semi pliable.
Not to get off the subject but......LOL...Yesterday I bought this CD bt a band I heard on one of the left channels on my radio...the band fuggin' rocks..they're Hassidac Jews...full fledged...the band is MATISYAHU. These cats are smokin'!!
Hey, ya did call me a Hinjew...if I could mix it up so can these cats.
Be a frock coat on Buddha
aviandyDasPS...Also I told him the authentic chinking method was to use slices of wood between the logs and then mud/clay/lime.
The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
But...can I schmear it on my inside out green rock?
Man yer nuts...you said to put it everywhere..now it is all stuvk in some places that I can't mention...
some strippers husband is gonna be real ticked off...
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As far as using it inside I SAID some people use it for a brown coat then the plaster and that I doubted you could use it on rock cause its too bumpy Mulaka
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andyThe secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
If it stuck you can always go over it w/ plaster or spackle. Didnt you see how gritty it is when you mixed it up?The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
Ok wait..I have a herniated dreadle...lol
I'll finger it out...geeze where's Imerc when ya need him? (G) Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Not here.
But if we're talking about perlited gypsum plaster, I've used a bag or few. Both Structolite and USG. We smear it on concrete walls, but it'll stick to about anything. Texture depends on how you finish it. It's gypsum, keep it inside. And don't forget it has a short shelf life.
Which Bob?
PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Forgot to mention that it'll grow a nice coat of mildew. Pretty sure Cloud's been to a failed PAHS dome in Oregon where it was blamed, erroneously. Problem was water leaks. Andy's idea'll work if you make sure no water penetration.
I kinda liked the Sashco Log Jam I once used. Elastomeric fake chinking. Just don't put it over thin beadboard like I had to repair. Squirrels went right through the beadboard to find a cozy home in the void between the logs.
Edited 10/9/2005 10:04 am ET by VaTom
good info. I mighta mis understood the Hinjosity guy..LOL
I am rained inside today so. what the heck..lets PARGE!
I left my trowels on a concrete job friday afternoon, so can i attempt it with drywall knives?
I was thinking ( a bad idea I know) that I'd try to use a steel trowell as a skimmer.....but being as it is MIA till morrow, I;ll sling the plaster with a 12" knife...
As far as the chinking goes..I better stick with mortar outside and this structolite inside...perma chink is WAY pricy....lime and clay is more doable, but also problematic.
edit: just saw your edit..lol hell we can edit all day..the Bob I quoted is the Bob that is not Marley...after all, there is only two.
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Edited 10/9/2005 10:24 am ET by Sphere
Noticed you'd got there before my edit. LOL Depending on what you want, a knife might be better. Structolite texture can be A-Z.
I like smoother with a light sponge finish. That disguises my crappy trowel job. If you want really smooth, like drywall mud can be, you've got the wrong product. It's perlited. And very forgiving, why I love it. Don't like what you got? Go over it.
Yup. Perma Chink was pricey. But you only knife it on maybe 1/16-1/8" thick over a substrate. 5 gallons goes a loooong way. I was doing repair, had to use the same stuff. Replaced the beadboard with xps and the Perma went on like a breeze- fast. This was on the back 40 of a 2000 ac horse farm. Cabin was erected for the son's Boy Scout troop to camp in. I was relieved my repair couldn't be spotted from farther than 8'. Owner told me to feel free with a shotgun to solve the squirrel problem. Like you're ever gonna get 'em all...
It also doesn't crack to let water into your Structolite. Or, apparently, pop loose from the logs at the edges. Traditionalists hate it. I don't build log, so I don't care.
Pretty sure Marley wouldn't have phrased it that way. Around here, the other Bob wouldn't be "other". Stones were here Thur. Traffic jam wasn't as bad as Texas, but close. 2 hrs late getting to the concert? This is a small town. Then a bomb scare that stopped it midway for an hour. Who would phone a bomb threat in on a Stones' concert? I was snoozin' by then.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
did a trial..i Dont like it at all. can't temper it..I'll be back with more info. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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did a trial..i Dont like it at all.
Uh, oh.
If no to all my questions...Andrew C Hinjew has a shipment of 4 bags in his car late at night..premixed...LOL
I'm still trappin' and transportin' rats here. Want company for the trip?PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Just to be more in deep & thought about this project....put the planks on the outside "first" usin' 4" Piffin Screws, mesh stapled or U nailed to the center of the logs then squeese in your motor and THEN the structolite from the center to the inside face. It'll grab better in that order.
I think thats a friggin rockin idea! So as your sponser Mr. Sphere Wait'll noon today (its noon somewhere on the planet now :) and pop a brew and get to chinkin'The secret of Zen in two words is, "Not always so"!
When we meet, we say, Namaste'..it means..
I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides,
I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
I honor the place within you where if you are in that place in you
and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us.
Your Doode Miester and holyness...I am beyond that..I gots the foam and liquid foam DONE!!!! woooohoooo no more skeeters getting in ( well, fewer)....man i have the wire mesh happening..
Fark it, I'll use mortar outside and cool whip insde...with preprimed cool whip of course..LOL
I love ya man...stay crazy, not drunk Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Use Structolite inside only, it absourbs moisture and will break down if there's too much unlike Portland. You cannot (should not ) apply perlite gypsum onto sheetrock without a proper bonding agent like Plasterweld. Structolite (perlite gypsum), was mostly designed to have a mechanical bond like wiremesh or gypboard lath with the holes, but you can use a bonding agent like the one suggested above. In these situations I like to put two coats of the stuff on. Follow the directions.
Use it on your logs as chinking? Hmmm. I suppose, but again you might have bonding issues. Do logs move around like studs and other wood does?
On a nother note. Aren't you the one that hunts big game? Bears? Saw the independant film 'Grizzley Man' the other night at that art theater in your old stomping grounds of Doylestown.. Really good stuff. You might wanna check it out
Good info about the stuff...I really was unsure about the outside use...what if I ADD portland cement to it? HMMMM.
I quit hunting many yrs ago. As my buddy says, as long as there is food in the grocery stores, why bother?
Ahhh, Doylestown. I hear the whole area has really grown. What a shame, it was idyllic when it was farmland in the fall. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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