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   UncleDunc | Dec 04, 2002 03:14am | #1

   What have you tried? It sounds like a soldered joint. Have you heated it hot enough to melt solder on both the inside and outside? Bolt some kind of lever onto the flange so you can put some torque on the joint when it's hot.

   Is the vertical run long enough for a coupling? Cut it off with a sawzall.

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   andybuildz | Dec 04, 2002 03:32am | #2

   Not exactly sure of your dilemma....Is the waste line PVC or cast iron? I dont think I've ever seen a copper waste line...Why do you want to remove the ring? Because of the corrosion you see? What I've done in the past is cut the waste line with a saw zall and reattach a new elbow. If you want to run PVC to cast you can use a rubber coupling with clamps...Be more specific.

   Good luck

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                       Andy

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   Edited 12/3/2002 7:34:03 PM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)

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   Piffin | Dec 04, 2002 05:52am | #3

   He's trying to get the tile from under the ring to do a thorough job.

   It's soldered. Heat it up..

   Excellence is its own reward!

   "The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit.

   The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."

   --Marcus Aurelius

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   deblacksmith | Dec 04, 2002 06:00am | #4

   For what it is worth my parents place in the mountains of Colorado -- built 1963 -- has 4 inch and smaller copper waste lines.   And it is on a spetic system, no building codes in the area at the time of construction.  That is just what they used there.  We paid $ 0.07 a board foot for pine back then too.   No help with the current problem just some unrelated data.

   Deblacksmith

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   pbros | Dec 06, 2002 02:44am | #5

   Thanks for your thoughts on the stuck waste pipe. But i kid you not, the waste pipe is indeed copper -- heck the whole house is run with copper as i imagine are the other 900 some houses in the neighborhood. Cutting sounds like the simplest course of action since i have clear access from the bottom. But this might interest you since you seem mildly amazed with the copper waste pipe. The fitting is not soldered onto the pipe. Instead the plumber appears to have run the pipe about 1/2" above the ring then snipped 1/2" relief cuts around the entire pipe down to the fitting. The snips are then bent back to the face of the fitting. That's it. No sealant, no solder. The shower is finished the same way (though at some point someone spread some silicone around the copper snips). Signs of leakage are evident from below but nothing like what i'd expect without sealing those joins. Oh well, you see something new everyday, huh.