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   John_Mate/Jersey_Drywall_Contrac | May 17, 1999 05:57am | #12

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   Thats funny. I new sheetrockers that did or still do that. It's a dam shame. Luckily they never did it on my jobs. (as far as I know) Actually my brother told me the story and I could not believe it. That was about 7 years ago.

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   jeff_wilson | May 19, 1999 03:01am | #13

   *I have hung rock in New Hampshire where the language of choice for sheet rockers is french. I dont know if there is any truth to this but I herd said that the old time "100 sheet a day" canadian drywallers would not leave the job site for any reason,if you catch my drift!

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   Guest_ | May 19, 1999 11:53pm | #14

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   This was a common practice in the tracts here in Western Or in the mid 70's. Sheetrockers were usually paid extra to scrap out. The first time we were offered an extra 1/2 cent per foot to scrap out I can remember my partner asking the sub we were working for if he actually wanted us to haul it to the dump. His response was, "you can if you want to".

   JonC

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   Guest_ | Jun 02, 1999 05:28am | #16

   *albert, i think there is a much needed positive new rating system coming out of this discussion.It will be called the Albert Shayly Scrap Rattling Index. The more the scrap rattles, the bouncier the joist!I'm sure the masses will flock to the houses with the lowest ASSRI rating!blue

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   Guest_ | Jun 02, 1999 05:28am | #15

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   In my area it's common practice to stuff the drywall scraps into the interior walls, especially in the spec home market.

   I don't allow the practice on any of my projects because it creates high dead loads as well as makes life miserable down the road if you want to fish a wire for a new outlet, phone or cable jack. I just don't think it's worth the couple hundred bucks you save.

   I also know a drywaller south of the border in Seattle who's been doing it for years.

   Just curious if it is common Throughout North America.

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   Guest_ | Apr 09, 1999 09:23am | #1

   *Albert - ran across this once under the exact circumstances you describe, trying to install a pop-in. Never seen it elsewhere.

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   Guest_ | Apr 09, 1999 02:34pm | #2

   *Albert,Get to bed.Bonita is waiting.

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   Guest_ | Apr 09, 1999 05:35pm | #3

   *Geez! Can't you guys find anything else to find fault with!Actually, I've stuffed my walls with everything that fits! It's a great place for stuff, until you have to remodel the next time! I drywalled my garage about ten years agao, and darn near cleaned the entire thing out! Ther are hockey sticks, baseball bats, shovels, broom handles, pipes, ductwork, pictures, magazines, etc! They will have quite a laugh when they open the walls up some day! My stomach was hurting as I stuffed some of the things in there! After a while, I was looking around to see what I could fit. I actually stuffed some things in there that I needed, just for the laugh! I figured that if I ever needed them, I'd just have to tear off a couple of boards...Blue

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   Guest_ | Apr 09, 1999 05:37pm | #4

   *Here's some master drywall stuffing tips. Run the board horizontally, and start with the bottom. You then have a very handy cavity to fill!v

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   Guest_ | Apr 09, 1999 08:14pm | #5

   *Since greater mass is very effective in preventing sound transmission, it seems that disposing of drywall in this way might make sense. Except that it would all be at the bottom of the wall.

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   Guest_ | Apr 13, 1999 06:37am | #6

   *I once had to use a substitute drywall sub that was working by the sheet. I figured the job at 280 sheets. As the hanging progressed I noticed that they were running out of sheetrock. After telling another sub working on the job that I was running out of sheetrock and couldn't understand why, he told me it was probably in the wall cavity. After some thumping around the walls I was pretty sure I had found the missing rock. By the way there was about the normal amount of waste piled outside. When I comfronted the sub about cutting up the board he denied it. I walked over to one of the suspect spots and kicked through the finished wall. The wall on the other side broke lose and inside the cavities were perfect 14"x 48" pieces. The sub was mortified. He picked up his tools and left and I never got a bill for what he had done.

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   Guest_ | Apr 13, 1999 09:00am | #7

   *Here's some more negatives regarding drywall stuffing.I was hangin' doors and trim in a spec home a few years back. The floor joist spans were maxed out so the floor was bouncy as hell. When you walked across the floor you could hear the scraps rattling in the wall.On a different house I was trimming out, the electrician was there installing plugs and switches. Acouple of the boxes didn't have any wires in them. After much cursing and swearing about his helper he cuts a hole in the wall beside the box and discovers that the drywallers had stuffed the board down so hard they had actually ripped the wires out of the boxes. I was upstairs working when I heard a cry of pain followed by more cursing. About a minute later I hear what sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a wall. I come running downstairs to discover the electrician swinging a sledge at the wall. Turns out he couldn't rescue his wires from under all that drywall got pissed off, kicked the wall, broke his foot and then started on the wall with the sledge.

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   Guest_ | Apr 13, 1999 09:15am | #8

   *Blue.That's exactly how they do it. See lower post from me to find out how this can go awry.

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   Guest_ | Apr 13, 1999 10:37am | #9

   *A bad, sloppy practice for all the reasons noted. Plus it adds weight without strength which is bad for earthquakes. A very slight advantage in a hurricane to have the house weigh more - but far better to attach it to the ground properly. Definitely helps the thermal mass of the house a bit and would moderate day and night temperature swings. But double sheetrock would do more of that, increase the fire rating, wall strength, sound-proofing, and protect the walls from all these subs who go around kicking them in. I've never left scraps behind but have done double 5/8".

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   Guest_ | Apr 13, 1999 09:03pm | #10

   *more tips - leave out a stud and hang the lownmower in there ("...can't mow it honey, can't find the fly-mo")

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   paul_siudut | Apr 17, 1999 11:45pm | #11

   *we had an old farmhouse the handyman headache. after 10 years we sold a beauitful home. when we replaced the doorbell and entry lights my whole family ran and got a pair of undies and we sealed them in HA! we still laugh 8 years later