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   Martagon_ | Aug 14, 2001 05:37am | #1

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   Is eaves only plural. Can you have one eafe. Just wondering.

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   CaseyR_ | Aug 14, 2001 06:00am | #2

   *Eave, usually eaves, the projecting overhang at the lower edge of a roof that sheds rain water. Don't know about eafes, maybe that is the thing that soaks up water and channels it into the house...Ok, so what is the difference between eaves and soffits?(Sorry, Johnnie, hopefully someone will actually answer your question on this thread... Until they do, you may want to check out the brief comments on code requirements regarding roofs in Codecheck:http://www.codecheck.com/bldframe.htm#anchor38425 )

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   David_Mason | Aug 14, 2001 06:29am | #3

   *Damn Johnnie, You really know how to make things difficult. :-) You have alot of filling in to do on those block G.E.'s . I would put one of my trusses up against the wall to match the G.E. to. As far as framing the 1' overhang goes I would run my roof sheathing wild then come back and cut it off at 1' without any lookout's . All you need is the barge rafter's , a block at the peak and a block on any splice in the rafters. Dave

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   Rein_Taul | Aug 14, 2001 06:37am | #4

   *Seems like a good place for them gooses and mouses to hang out...

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   Jon_Blakemore | Aug 14, 2001 04:31pm | #5

   *David, What holds up the barge rafter?Jon

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   Ian.D.Gilham. | Aug 14, 2001 04:48pm | #6

   *Johnnie,Usual here is to make a 'ladder' out of 2" x 4", the length of the common rafter.One side of the ladder is fastened to the truss rafter, the 'rungs' of the ladder rest on the blockwork and are built in by the mason and the bargeboard is fixed to the other side of the ladder.The bargeboard soffit is fixed directly to the underside of the 'rungs'

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   Thaddeus_Raven | Aug 14, 2001 05:06pm | #7

   *Ditto on Ian's way. Now if the facia is tall or has a lot of profile then make the "Ladder" out of 2x6. As to the discussion on eaves, before Breaktime took its summer vacation a few weeks back there was a string regarding gutters so my apologies for repeating myself."It is actually "eaves trough". From, eaves -- the projecting overhang at the lower border of a roof; and, trough -- 1)a long narrow, generally shallow receptacle, especially one for holding water or feed for animals 2)a gutter below the eaves of a roof. Old timers would say eaves trough so there would be no confusion with all the other troughs around. They wouldn't say "gutter" in polite conversation any more than they would say any cuss words. A gutter alongside pre-automobile roads was full of horses**t, sewage and disease. The worst insult you could throw at someone was that they were from the gutter or lying in the gutter. You would never attach a "gutter" to your house. You would dig a "gutter" from your barn to a muck pit. Eaves is always in the plural coming from the old English "efes" probably deriving from the multiple tip ends of the straw in a thatch roof. This gives us the word "eavesdrop", originally a noun refering to the space of ground around a building where water falls from the eaves. An eavesdropper is someone who stood in the eavesdrop to overhear private converations inside the building. Eavesdropping was a criminal offense and gives us the modern verb "to eavesdrop" All the current breaktime strings on wet basements could probably use the original meaning of eavesdrop to better explain the solutions." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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   David_Mason | Aug 15, 2001 06:05pm | #8

   *Jon, the roof sheathing will easy hold up the barge rafter on a 1' overhang . I have done this many times over the years and haven't had a problem with them sagging Dave

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   Johnnie_Browne | Aug 15, 2001 06:05pm | #9

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   End Gables eves, 1 foot eaves overhang. Block wall gables to point of peak, Pre manufactured trusses. How do I frame the eves?