Sub charging me for use of my laborer
buildingbill
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I hired a roofer to lay down a flat roof last week. The fascia on the house had a fair amount of rot so I gave the OK to replace it. I sent over a carpenter with all the material and the two replaced the fascia in one day.
The bill comes in today and he bills me for two men for one day plus materials that I provided. I call the guy and he said he needed to charge for him because of his ins. I told him that the carpenter is my responsibility and re bill for just him. Now he claims that I am unfair to him and I told him that you can’t take advantage of people and stay in business for very long.
Am I missig something or does this guy believe that he in entitled to something extra?
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see if your labourer would like to write the guy up
a rather LARGE bill for services rendered....
>>I call the guy and he said he needed to charge for him because of his ins.
Seems pretty lame to me.
Tell as soon as he produces a letter from his insurance agent's counsel to that effect, you'll pay him, and as suggested, your guy will send him a bill for services rendered.
And you can tell him you've got some lawyers in your back pocket, and that although they didn't charge you a thing for explaining "quantum meruit," you bet his lawyer's clock will start the minute he picks up the phone and he probably bills in 6 minute chunks.
"QUANTUM MERUIT - As much as he has deserved. When a person employs another to do work for him, without any agreement as to his compensation, the law implies a promise from, the employer to the workman that he will pay him for his services, as much as be may deserve or merit."
It is entirely optional as to whether you call him a bozo<G>
Assuming the roofer is gonna pay the laborer-and even if he doesn't, present the roofer with a bill for the amount the laborer costs you for the time worked, including taxes, insurance, health/dental plan, truck/tool allowances, company picnic fees, coffee bills, whatever you can think up.
The laborer is probably hoping to be paid twice, once from you, and another time from you thru the (very ballsy) roofer.
LOL, good luck.
That's the best idiot-sub story on this board this month so far. The best one last month was Isamemon's tale of the dead snake draped over the doorknob, allegedly by his estranged tile guy.
You're saying that you sent your own employee to the job to work with the roofer, and the roofer billed you for your employee's time? And you are also expected to pay the employee too??
Your roofer lives in an alternate reality. Is it possible he lost money on another job for you and is trying to make up ground?
Tell him the laborer also billed you for two guys and material. then give him a bill for the GC service you provided, after all you need to cover your insurance.
At least you didn't go over and help him yourself. Imagine how PO'd you would be if he invoiced you for your own labor!
How much is he charging you for your materials?
Same explanation, insurance requirement?
How do I get a job like that?
Joe H
I am curious who pay better, you or the roofer. Is he at least paying your laborer as much as he would make from you? You could back bill him for lost time with your guy. Don't forget to add a delivery charge for the materials.
Andy
"It seemed like a good idea at the time"
Let's see.
He is a client of yours because you sent your material and your man to perform a task on his job. So, I bill my clients 35% over what my subs (him) charge.
Send him (as a client) a bill for what he (as a sub) is charging you (for material and your man) plus 35%.
When he bitches, say you need to add markup to stay in business.
Insist for as long as he does.
SamT
That is prob. the best solution so far.
It's a mighty world we live in. But truth is we are only passing through.
You provided the sheathing, one carpenter to help. He wants to bill you for both, your roofer is nuts.
mike
I think he was thown off the short bus because he was making the other passengers look stupid. Lots of luck.