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Taping repairs

HandySteve | Posted in General Discussion on September 8, 2005 06:05am

God I hate Sheetrocking.. taping or sanding.  But im always forced to do repairs on it.

Question….  Is there a better..quicker.. easier way??

 1)   Got a few areas in the corners where the tape lost its adhesiveness  and you can see lines in the corners….. typically about a foot long or so.. maybe shorter sometimes.   Cracked lines  are not directly in the corner… but at the edges of the tape.

2)  Sometimes i come across a spot where it seems the tape popped out a little…  sits up off of the sheetrock maybe a 1/4 inch.. maybe less.  But it sticks out.  Drives some H.O’s crazy .

Short of cutting out that area and re-taping.. mudding.  Got any suggestions?

 

Id appreciate some feedback.

Good Luck

 

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  1. DanH | Sep 08, 2005 06:14pm | #1

    It's amazing what a little Elmer's glue will do. Yeah, it makes the pros here retch, but it works.

    1. kate | Sep 08, 2005 07:26pm | #3

      Yeah - I use a syringe left over from my farming days to put it right in there.  A glue injector would work, too...

      1. DanH | Sep 09, 2005 01:12am | #4

        My wife's diabetic -- no shortage of syringes, though I do have to thin the glue out quite a bit.

        1. custombuilt | Sep 09, 2005 01:54am | #5

          If its just a small popped area, I just cut out the loose corner or edge and skim coat over it.

           

           When in doubt, get a bigger hammer!

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    Huck | Sep 08, 2005 06:21pm | #2

    IMO if the tape is loose, cutting it out and replacing it is the only professional solution. Use hot mud to patch, with a fan, mud and tape the repaired area, fan or heat-gun/blow dryer will speed the repair, three coats mud with drying inbetween, texture and paint to match. Done right the repair will be invisible and permanent.

  3. IdahoDon | Sep 09, 2005 04:58am | #6

    To start off I should say that a tape pop should be cut out and repaired to ensure a good bond and proper reinforcement of the joint.  Covering it up or not getting full contact between the tape and rock might only be a short-term fix. If part of the tape has popped there is a good chance that right around the visible area is also weak.

    Furthermore, I personally deny ever using bondo to fix a small tape pop 30 minutes before a final client inspection.  I did not lift the tape edge as much as possible and did not work a bondo-covered putty knife under the paper.  The sticky bondo did not adhere to anything it came in contact with and I did not work the bondo as far under the tape as possible with finger pressure.  Mixing a little extra hardener to insure a fast set and holding the paper flat by hand for 5 minutes is also something I didn't do.  Having a little extra time, I did not mix a small second batch and carefully touchup the texture as needed.  Not that I did, but if I would have, it sure would have turned out good and could have been painted within 5 minutes.  The owners are now personal friends and I'd fix the spot if it ever came loose, which it wouldn't for 2 years now, if that was something I did, but of course that wouldn't be right so I never did it nor is it recommended. 

    ;-) 

    1. harrisdog43 | Sep 09, 2005 05:20am | #7

      And since you didn't do all that, I didn't copy it down and file it away in my bag of tricks either ;0)

      john

    2. Mitremike | Sep 09, 2005 07:11am | #8

      They all have ya covered on the subject so I just have an outside question for you--Do you know that 7corners fall show is coming up?You know you want to go--Meet ya there.....Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
      Adam Savage---Mythbusters

      1. HandySteve | Sep 09, 2005 11:06pm | #10

        details.. details mike.  Yeah.. i could call em up.  But since your talking about it... spill the beans.

        You think theres a store like 7corners in other big towns?

         

        Good Luck

        1. Mitremike | Sep 10, 2005 06:41am | #11

          Not many--a while back I read an article about big, great , old hardware stores around the US and 7corners was listed among 10 I think,Never been out there?Oh man--ya gotta go--the have a back lot and a lower back lot full of display and manufactures--Good times--Go to 7corners.com I have the mailer upstairs--starts next thurIf they don't have it you don't need it---The entire second floor is the tool dept. and who ever isn't in the lot is upstaris--Think about it and get back to me--I'm going so catch ya there---Mike" I reject your reality and substitute my own"
          Adam Savage---Mythbusters

          1. HandySteve | Sep 12, 2005 08:32pm | #13

            OH ive been there.   Was going to have my engagement photos taken there up on the second floor.  Only to be ruled out by the wife at the last moment.  

            I'll go for sure.  Im feeling the need to buy some new tools.

    3. HandySteve | Sep 09, 2005 11:05pm | #9

      nothing but good ideas coming out of Idaho.  Thanks.

      I was thinking about moving to Idaho.  How's work up there?

      1. IdahoDon | Sep 10, 2005 10:51am | #12

        Steve,  It's hard for me to say how construction jobs in Idaho, Colorado or Wyoming relate to the rest of the world, but it's probably best to say there are pockets of prosperity and not much inbetween. Colorado is much better off since there are larger pockets and more of them.  It would be safe to say that the majority of the wester states are a pretty good place for a carpenter to starv.

        From what I can make of things during the past 12 months in Idaho, the hot spots for high-end construction are the ski/resort areas of Sun Valley and Tamarac.  Building is fast and furious around Tamarac since there was a new major ski resort that opened last winter.  Like many resort areas it's nice work, but hard to live there and weekly travel isn't any fun if you have family or roots somewhere else.  

        Overall Idaho wages for construction trades across the board seem to be about 20% lower than SE Wyoming or the front range of Colorado (Denver and north).  Some of the highest-quality carpenters that I've ever met are willing to live and work here for less than they are worth.  Along similar lines, the lower wages have also led to many sharp people taking other career paths so the number of so-so people in the trades seems higher than it should be.  Supply and demand I suppose.

        In Eagle, on the western edge of Boise, there is a bit of a boom in the moderately high-end semi-custom homes.  The subs are working for cheap so many of the nicest custom homes have great quality and are going up quick.  The climate in Boise is almost identical to the front range of Colorado so there are a lot of people retiring here with outside money.

        Jackson Hole Wyoming has a square footage restriction in the city limits so those with big bank rolls who want to stay in town build nicer since they can't go larger.  I've heard great stories of the excesses from carps who live there.

        In the rural areas not neccessarily in resort towns the most interesting building is the flood of summer and retirement homes that are scattered and often secluded.  The remote ridges and mountains are being developed by outside money and it can be a somewhat unique carpentry experience.  It isn't unheard of to travel 2-4 hours a day, through really rough roads and bad weather. The building sites are often beautiful and spending spring, summer and fall on a remote mountaintop building neet stuff is very hard to beat.  Working a winter in the same area can be more of a survival situation if you are on the outside.

  4. Mooney | Sep 13, 2005 03:21am | #14

    Ive wrote quite bit on the 6 inch knife.

    The back edges are sharpened . Its a double edge knife. One of the uses of the Six is to cut bubbles and tape thats not stuck. Use the back to lift and fold back , then mud and lay it back down. Just keep working ........ and no time on it will be lost.

    Tim

     

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