Thought I would pass this on:
A Soldier’s Viewpoint on Surviving Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Attacks
From: SFC Red Thomas (Ret)
Armor Master Gunner
Mesa, AZ
Unlimited reproduction and distribution is authorized. Just give me credit for my work, and, keep in context.
Since the media has decided to scare everyone with predictions of chemical, biological, or nuclear warfare on our turf I decided to write a paper and keep things in their proper perspective. I am a retired military weapons, munitions, and training expert.
Lesson number one: In the mid 1990s there were a series of nerve gas attacks on crowded Japanese subway stations. Given perfect conditions for an attack less than 10% of the people there were injured (the injured were better in a few hours) and only one percent of the injured died.
60 Minutes once had a fellow telling us that one drop of nerve gas could kill a thousand people, well he didn’t tell you the thousand dead people per drop was theoretical.
Drill Sergeants exaggerate how terrible this stuff was to keep the recruits awake in class (I know this because I was a Drill Sergeant too). Forget everything you’ve ever seen on TV, in the movies, or read in a novel about this stuff, it was all a lie (read this sentence again out loud!). These weapons are about terror, if you remain calm, you will probably not die. This is far less scary than the media and their “Experts,” make it sound.
Chemical Weapons
Chemical weapons are categorized as nerve, blood, blister, and Incapacitating agents. Contrary to the hype of reporters and politicians they are not weapons of mass destruction they are “area denial,” and terror weapons that don’t destroy anything. When you leave the area you almost always leave the risk. That’s the difference; you can leave the area and the risk but soldiers may have to stay put and sit through it and that’s why they need all that spiffy gear.
These are not gasses, they are vapors and/or air borne particles. The agent must be delivered in sufficient quantity to kill/injure, and that defines when/how it’s used. Every day we have a morning and evening inversion where “stuff,” suspended in the air gets pushed down. This inversion is why allergies (pollen) and air pollution are worst at these times of the day.
So, a chemical attack will have it’s best effect an hour of so either side of sunrise/sunset. Also, being vapors and airborne particles they are heavier than air so they will seek low places like ditches, basements and underground garages. This stuff won’t work when it’s freezing, it doesn’t last when it’s hot, and wind spreads it too thin too fast. They’ve got to get this stuff on you, or, get you to inhale it for it to work. They also have to get the concentration of chemicals high enough to kill or wound you. Too little and it’s nothing, too much and it’s wasted.
What I hope you’ve gathered by this point is that a chemical weapons attack that kills a lot of people is incredibly hard to do with military grade agents and equipment so you can imagine how hard it will be for terrorists. The more you know about this stuff the more you realize how hard it is to use.
We’ll start by talking about nerve agents. You have these in your house, plain old bug killer (like Raid) is nerve agent. All nerve agents work the same way; they are cholinesterase inhibitors that mess up the signals your nervous system uses to make your body function. It can harm you if you get it on your skin but it works best if they can get you to inhale it. If you don’t die in the first minute and you can leave the area you’re probably gonna live. The military’s antidote for all nerve agents is atropine and pralidoxime chloride. Neither one of these does anything to cure the nerve agent, they send your body into overdrive to keep you alive for five minutes,
after that the agent is used up. Your best protection is fresh air and staying calm.
Listed below are the symptoms for nerve agent poisoning:
Sudden headache, Dimness of vision (someone you’re looking at will have pinpointed pupils), runny nose, excessive saliva or drooling, difficulty breathing, tightness in chest, nausea, stomach cramps, twitching of exposed skin where a liquid just got on you.
If you are in public and you start experiencing these symptoms, first ask yourself, did anything out of the ordinary just happen, a loud pop, did someone spray something on the crowd? Are other people getting sick too? Is there an odor of new mown hay, green corn, something fruity, or camphor where it shouldn’t be? If the answer is yes, then calmly (if you panic you breathe faster and inhale more air/poison) leave the area and head up wind, or, outside.
Fresh air is the best “right now antidote.” If you have a blob of liquid that looks like molasses or Kayro syrup on you; blot it or scrape it off and away from yourself with anything disposable. This stuff works based on your body weight, what a crop duster uses to kill bugs won’t hurt you unless you stand there and breathe it in real deep, then lick the residue off the ground for a while. Remember they have to do all the work, they have to get the concentration up and keep it up for several minutes while all you have to do is quit getting it on you/quit breathing it by putting space between you and the attack.
Blood agents are cyanide or arsine which effect your blood’s ability to provide oxygen to your tissue. The scenario for attack would be the same as nerve agent. Look for a pop or someone splashing/spraying something and folks around there getting woozy/falling down. The telltale smells are bitter almonds or garlic where it shouldn’t be. The symptoms are blue lips, blue under the fingernails rapid breathing.
The military’s antidote is amyl nitride and just like nerve agent antidote it just keeps your body working for five minutes till the toxins are used up. Fresh air is the your best individual chance.
Blister agents (distilled mustard) are so nasty that nobody wants to even handle it let alone use it. It’s almost impossible to handle safely and may have delayed effect of up to 12 hours. The attack scenario is also limited to the things you’d see from other chemicals. If you do get large, painful blisters for no apparent reason, don’t pop them, if you must, don’t let the liquid from the blister get on any other area, the stuff just keeps on spreading. It’s just as likely to harm the user as the target. Soap, water, sunshine, and fresh air are this stuff’s enemy.
Bottom line on chemical weapons (it’s the same if they use industrial chemical spills); they are intended to make you panic, to terrorize you, to heard you like sheep to the wolves. If there is an attack, leave the area and go upwind, or to the sides of the wind stream. They have to get the stuff to you, and on you. You’re more likely to be hurt by a drunk driver on any given day than be hurt by one of these attacks. Your odds get better if you leave the area. Soap, water, time, and fresh air really deal this stuff a knock-out-punch. Don’t let fear of an isolated attack rule your life. The odds are really on your side.
Nuclear Weapons
Nuclear bombs. These are the only weapons of mass destruction on earth. The effects of a nuclear bomb are heat, blast, EMP, and radiation. If you see a bright flash of light like the sun, where the sun isn’t, fall to the ground! The heat will be over a second. Then there will be two blast waves, one out going, and one on it’s way back. Don’t stand up to see what happened after the first wave; anything that’s going to happen will have happened in two full minutes.
These will be low yield devices and will not level whole cities. If you live through the heat, blast, and initial burst of radiation, you’ll probably live for a very, very long time. Radiation will not create fifty foot tall women, or giant ants and grass hoppers the size of tanks. These will be at the most 1 kiloton bombs; that’s the equivalent of 1,000 tons of TNT.
Here’s the real deal, flying debris and radiation will kill a lot of exposed (not all!) people within a half mile of the blast. Under perfect conditions this is about a half mile circle of death and destruction, but, when it’s done it’s done. EMP stands for Electro Magnetic Pulse and it will fry every electronic device for a good distance, it’s impossible to say what and how far but probably not over a couple of miles from ground zero is a good guess. Cars, cell phones, computers, ATMs, you name it, all will be out of order.
There are lots of kinds of radiation, you only need to worry about three, the others you have lived with for years. You need to worry about “Ionizing radiation,” these are little sub atomic particles that go whizzing along at the speed of light. They hit individual cells in your body, kill the nucleus and keep on going. That’s how you get radiation poisoning, you have so many dead cells in your body that the decaying cells poison you.
It’s the same as people getting radiation treatments for cancer, only a bigger area gets radiated. The good news is you don’t have to just sit there and take it, and there’s lots you can do rather than panic. First; your skin will stop alpha particles, a page of a news paper or your clothing will stop beta particles, you just gotta try and avoid inhaling dust that’s contaminated with atoms that are emitting these things and you’ll be generally safe from them.
Gamma rays are particles that travel like rays (quantum physics makes my brain hurt) and they create the same damage as alpha and beta particles only they keep going and kill lots of cells as they go all the way through your body. It takes a lot to stop these things, lots of dense material, on the other hand it takes a lot of this to kill you.
Your defense is as always to not panic. Basic hygiene and normal preparation are your friends. All canned or frozen food is safe to eat. The radiation poisoning will not effect plants so fruits and vegetables are OK if there’s no dust on em (rinse em off if there is). If you don’t have running water and you need to collect rain water or use water from wherever, just let it sit for thirty minutes and skim off the water gently from the top. The dust with the bad stuff in it will settle and the remaining water can be used for the toilet which will still work if you have a bucket of water to pour in the
tank.
Biological Weapons
Finally there’s biological warfare. There’s not much to cover here. Basic personal hygiene and sanitation will take you further than a million doctors. Wash your hands often, don’t share drinks, food, sloppy kisses, etc., …. with strangers. Keep your garbage can with a tight lid on it, don’t have standing water (like old buckets, ditches, or kiddie pools) laying around to allow mosquitoes breeding room. This stuff is carried by vectors, that is bugs, rodents, and contaminated material. If biological warfare is so easy as the TV makes it sound, why has Saddam Hussein spent twenty years, millions, and millions of dollars trying to get it right? If you’re clean of person and home you eat well and are active you’re gonna live.
Overall preparation for any terrorist attack is the same as you’d take for a big storm. If you want a gas mask, fine, go get one. I know this stuff and I’m not getting one and I told my Mom not to bother with one either (how’s that for confidence). We have a week’s worth of cash, several days worth of canned goods and plenty of soap and water. We don’t leave stuff out to attract bugs or rodents so we don’t have them.
These people can’t conceive a nation this big with this much resources. These weapons are made to cause panic, terror, and to demoralize. If we don’t run around like sheep they won’t use this stuff after they find out it’s no fun. The government is going nuts over this stuff because they have to protect every inch of America. You’ve only gotta protect yourself, and by doing that, you help the country.
Finally, there are millions of caveats to everything I wrote here and you can think up specific scenarios where my advice isn’t the best. This letter is supposed to help the greatest number of people under the greatest number of situations. If you don’t like my work, don’t nit pick, just sit down and explain chemical, nuclear, and biological warfare in a document around three pages long yourself. This is how we the people of the United States can rob these people of their most desired goal, your terror.
SFC Red Thomas (Ret)
Armor Master Gunner
Mesa, AZ
I sent this to everyone I know and printed a copy for myself.
Knowledge is power!
WAHD
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I got this same text but by a different author a few days ago. ?????????
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Hey Red, great article!
HUH?
It was authored by Red...
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/realdeal.htm
If you got a copy of it that was supposedly authored by someone else... they were lieing.
Quittin' Time
Thanks for posting the link. The comments made there are well worth reading.
They're right, that those of us with training in such things tend to take them a little lightly. Kind of a necessary defense mechanism to not get whacked out about the risks you may encounter as a soldier.
We do the same thing by training how to avoid and detect land mines, but not dwelling too much on what happens when you hit one. I really got the geebers after seeing pictures of a M113 armored personel carrier that had hit a land mine. The next time I crawled into one. Had to fight that image down and just do the job. Which, incidentally was practicing clearing a mine field. Had that been a real mission, we'd have had about 3 tons of explosives in the vehicle with us. Nice big pipe bomb if someone sets it off.
So, you train on what can be done to minimize the danger after something really nasty occurs. If the worst comes, at least you can help save people from becoming victims unnecissarily. Too late at that point to do anything else.
The scariest of course is biological, I think he downplayed this risk too much. They're scary, because not only can you not see it, usually; but unlike chemical weapons you can then spread it to your friends and family. And, unlike chemicals, you may not even realize you were attacked. I've often wondered if the human race may be exterminated someday by some nut who releases a new super germ. But, it's just a passing thought. If you dwell on it you'll start acting like Howard Hughes.
Some basic preparations for emergencies, having some food, water, medical supplies etc. on hand is important for many reasons. Some physical, some psychological. If you're lucky you'll never need them. If not, they may save your life, or at least make you more comfortable.
I must have a mess of missfiring nuro transmitters. I thought you were calling me Red.
This came in a bit ago. Might be worth reading.
I just looked at that it says Amoco, a bizzion barrels BP none, I thought BP bought out amoco or other way around?View ImageGo Jayhawks
Howdy Cag:
Bp took over some of Amoco
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Ok, just looked odd to me at first glance that part of a company uses saudi oil and the other part does not. View ImageGo Jayhawks
This "who to buy gas from" email is pure BS...
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nogas.htm
The one other thing he didn't mention was radiological devices. Standard explosives used to scatter radioactive material. I have taught some civil defense classes with books that explained how to do this.
I saw an episode of JAG where a radiological missle was launched at a carrier battle group. The disinformation in this piece was amazing. They acted like they were all dead if it exploded within miles of the fleet. One of the crew asked if they should go below decks. No, doesn't matter, if that thing goes off we're all dead.
Total nonsense. These weapons are not that dangerous. Though they are very dangerous within a small area. If you're not in that area, you aren't in a great deal of danger. Even in a city, most of the clean up would involve washing the dust off. At sea, simply closing the hatches and hosing the decks of the ships off would remove almost all radioactive material. Cleanup should be left to FEMA, they will determine the type of hazard and how best to cleanup/contain it.
While many are scared of radiation, it is something we are exposed to everyday. The same advice the author gave here applies, soap water, clean clothes (disrobe outside, and let the athorities deal with it later). If you're inside, stay there, seal any openings, turn off air moving devices. Turn on a radio, no EMP with a radiological device, and wait for instructions. You do have 3 days of food and water and a battery powered radio on hand right.
Oh, and any pets, leave them outside, or in a seperate room such as a garage, but don't let them go through your house. In any NBC attack leave them outside. Decontaminating fur is extremely difficult. You'll likely only expose yourself. You may even make them worse.
Interesting article, but I didn't quite understand: Since the media has decided to scare everyone with predictions of chemical, biological, or nuclear warfare on our turf
The media? How about the administration? They're the one's raising the risk color and telling us to wrap ourselves ibn duct tape.
Why the attempt to blame this on the media?
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"I may have said the same thing before... But my explanation, I am sure, will always be different." Oscar Wilde
Edited 2/18/2003 4:28:56 PM ET by Bob Walker
because of the way they sensationalize itbobl Volo Non Voleo Joe's BT Forum cheat sheet
lol
because of the way they sensationalize it
How can the administration's "duct tape & plastic" stupidity be sensationalized?
The Gov is the one scaring people, the press is just reporting._______________________
"I may have said the same thing before... But my explanation, I am sure, will always be different." Oscar Wilde
In how they report it and how they edit it.bobl Volo Non Voleo Joe's BT Forum cheat sheet
Actually, a helicopter with a standard pesticide dispersal system would be pretty effective in a crowd or a traffic jam on a crowded highway. Large quantities of a less potent agent are just as bad as small quantities of a potent agent. Ever see those trucks which come through your neighborhood at night and fog for skeeters. Imagine one of those loaded up with an organophospate instead. Atropine and 2-PAM do work, but how many people carry it with them and are prepared to give it, as we teach med students, in heroic doses. It is a good thing that 99% of the terrorists are stupid losers. Otherwise, we'd be in trouble.
I read some website that mentions these possible delivery systems. It said something to the effect of a bio-terror agent needs a (1 micron?) dispersal nozzle, most general pesticide systems have something on the order of (7 micron?). The smaller size is needed to maintain the agent in an airborne state, out of the larger nozzles it'll just settle to the ground and be ineffective. Of course, it did go on to say that you could more or less just change the nozzles, but nozzles in the smaller size aren't easily available, you'd have to make them. They also said it'd be difficult and unlikely, because you would likely need to have the spray apparatus availble for a lenght of time to modify. You can't simply smash-and-grab a truck/helo/cropduster and be able to make the switch.
(Note - I may have the actual sizes and/or units of measure wrong, but the above gives you the general idea, as I remember it.)If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.
1 Good use for duct tape to increase homeland security
If you were arrested for being a quality builder would there be enough evidence to convict you?
Imagine one of those loaded up with an organophospate
quite likely they are - Malathion is commonly used for mosquito control - -
What?
you mean I won't have time to cover all my windows with plastic and duct taape?
I wonder if the president was trying to scare up some support for his position with that call?
On the subject of trying to boycott Saudi Oil as stated in the above attachment (why "Saudi oil" anyway? that's stupid, they are our allies, Iraq is the enemy!).
gas stations routinely buy gas from major distributors who buy gas from a variety of sources.
Saying that you can avoid any particular source of oil by boycotting one gas company or other is oversimplifying the process way too much.
No one in the petrolium industry is interested in keeping the oil or finished products separated by source. They just mix it all in (petrolium products are standardized for this important reason). The fluctuations in price / availability from various markets would make it extremely unlikely that your neighborhood gas station could EVER tell you with honesty exactly where their gas came from.
Anybody remember the movie Animal House?
It was so much simpler when we could just sit in the yard, crack a beer and put a sign "Welcome Russkies!"