This looks like a really nice contractors truck. I am going to attempt to post the link but if it does not work go to You Tube and search on Toyota Tundra.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5923626201773142054&pr=goog-sl
I liked the backup camera in the tailgate, the sliding (whole window lowers) back window on the cab, the rear seat has a heavy duty shell on the back to throw tools on, the pendaflex file holder and a space for the laptop in the console. 10k tow capability etc. etc.
It looks like they are going after the F150 market in a big way.
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Sorry, but when they start adding backup cameras in the tailgate and so forth, that moves the truck from contractor grade to soccer mom grade.
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I tend to agree to some extent, they claimed they talked to a lot of contractors and this is one item (I belive it is optional) that was asked for by the majority.
I think personally if I was by myself and hooking up a trailer it would come in very handy, especially if it is cold and dark.
I could realy like a camera on the ball hitch when I'm hooking up alone. Would save a lot of wear and tear on the seat and driver's door.
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I would really like a camera on the ball hitch when I'm hooking up alone. Would save a lot of wear and tear on the seat and driver's door. >>
Surveillance cameras are available for $50 and up. They operate on 12V, can be wired to your fuse box or borrow power from almost anything nearby. You could also use a separate small 12v battery. Single RCA wire off the camera to any portable TV in the cab. A camcorder's screen would work too. I'd probably install the camera mount on the bumper and keep the camera in the glove box until needed.
I have a similar set-up on my motorcycle, used to record rides to a Digital 8 camcorder. It's not an original idea, just one I adapted for my use. You could do the same, I'm sure. The camera mount requires three small holes for screws.
This is just a simple as it sounds. Just be aware that these little cameras' lenses have various focal lengths so check the image before buying to see how it will effect what you want to see on the screen.
Edited 3/18/2007 8:54 am ET by Hudson Valley Carpenter
Did you see the behind the scenes of the see saw commercial? Kind of funny. All the contractors that came out there to erect that thing towed their equipment with super dutys. Ford guys, at least, chuckle at that. The toyota in the commercial, it was the only toyota anywhere near.
Real trucks dont have sparkplugs
I am sure that is true, they would of had a hard time using new Toyota's since they are not out yet. Its interesting in the spokesmans comments at the Chicago Auto show the entire truck is built in the US. I think that is important for jobs here. Many parts and pices of so called "American Made" trucks are built in Canada and Mexico. My Astro Van (95) was if memory serves entirely built in Canada.
If A 4'X8' sheet of plywood won't fit in the Bed with the tail gate closed, then its not a Truck!
Yeah the need to be able to put a 4x8 in the bed precludes the four door model, I see Chevy and Ford I think have that but the only thing I don't like about those is it feels like you are driving a school bus and need 5 acres to turn it around. I think I would buy the standard cab anyway primarly for that reason. If I ever buy another new truck.
That reminds me, what ever happened to the Chev with the rear wheels that would turn (steer), I remember the hype on it a few years ago?
like FastEddie says..I need a truck, not a bunch of gimmicks.
besides I look behind the truck it before I back up anyway.
but that Scotch ain't bad !
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Most of us do too. I will bet that will be an option on all the "Big Three" next year though.
I am sure that the truck has a lot of "gimmicks" ie the sliding rear window, who ever would want to stick something through the window anyway? They should come standard with a lumber rack and boxes. Diamond plate bed liner and heavy duty plastic floor so the cigarette buts and mud can be hosed out once a year. The 10k tow ability and the four piston brake calipers are over kill too. Not to mention the 20" tires, they just cost more.
did you ever see that truck from Lincoln-Mercury....errr the Blackwood ?stainless bedliner, power tailgate...I forget all the other goofy stuff....for $50K I think...I saw ONE about three years ago in a town west of Chicago..that one had those spinning wheels that kept of turning when the truck was stopped.
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Nope, not up here in the far frozen north. Have seen the fancy "spinner" hubcap/rims. Looks like a great waste of money if you ask me, adds meaning to the phrase "pimp my ride" I guess.
I know a guy who just bought one; he's going to use it to tow a race car trailer and he really liked the idea of the rear view camera - he's hoping it will make it easy to back up to the trailer hitch. He just got it a few days ago so it's too early to say much but in just driving it around town he thinks it's pretty nice.
Here's a link to a pretty comprehensive review of the truck, with a particular emphasis on towing capability.
http://horsetrailerworld.com/Home/contribute/Homepage/MrTruck1-25-07Toyota/tundra.asp
However, note the truck's configurations and GCWR precludes realistically towing over 10k; one of the major auto mags recently reviewed the truck vs. the new Sierra and figured 9k was more likely. (Sierra can tow and carry more).
Still an impressive truck, and I'd sure like the tailgate cam when hitching up my trailer ('cos it always seems to be raining bucketsful when I can't nail it on the first shot! :^))
Of course, one could always go aftermarket with the rear cams--Cabela's has a "rear surveillance" license plate frame camera and visor monitor kit for $500.
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I have not heard of toyota offering a diesel engine for this truck. I don't understand why they would not offer a high quality diesel package .
I'm not sure about the diesel, Toyota offers them in Europe. One thing that I have seen on diesel sites is the complaint about our diesel quality...something about it fouling up the engines sold on those vehicles in Europe...I think it was a VW site where I saw that.
Case in point, my buddy just got some bad fuel here in New England. Net result: two cracked fuel pumps on both vehicles during a cold snap.
Over the next year, all of our deisel will be low sulphur also
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Cept for a PU being cooler than a van I could never understand why anyone would have one unless its to tow a trailer.
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Cept for a PU being cooler than a van I could never understand why anyone would have one unless its to tow a trailer.
Although a van is certainly nice (keeps all your valuables dry and locked up), I prefer the superior visibility in a pickup truck (I don't have a canopy). But obviously there's a trade-off, and it's just personal preference for me.
Of course, there are times when you've got to move oversized items that just won't fit in a van.
I still think its the "cool" factor. I still won't really buy into most of the reasons people give for a PU unless its obvious like youre a farmer and carry bales of hey or similar situations.
I have an extended van and have never been in an accident...ever. Visability has never entered into a saftey issue with me and my vans.
I've heard other reasons like things are more accesable to yank out when you need them but weighing everything out during the day of a builder...that accessable to yank out factor sure doesn't make such an expensive investment seem like a logical reason to me. Big deal...so I have to lean into my van or even crouch over in it for a 30 seconds...big deal. I'm in attics and crawl spaces...up top ladders three stories high...
Just admit it...a PU is cooler...lol : )
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>Just admit it...a PU is cooler...lol : ) <Well, yeah:http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/ultimate/163_0310_international_class_7_crew_cab/capacities.htmlWhere do you park it? Anywhere you want to!:^)soj
Now yer talkin'! Dats KOOL! seventy grand too...cheap at twice the price fer that kinda Kool.
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>Now yer talkin'! Dats KOOL! seventy grand too...cheap at twice the price fer that kinda Kool.<Oh yeah! 70 grand is what, a tricked-out Escalade, a Lexus? A Mercedes G500 is some 85 grand.Much more with the cool to have the truck that'd beat 'em up and steal their lunch money.But hey, does it have a rearview camera? :^) soj
This is a cool PU:
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Exactly right! Its cool and I DO want one of those!!!...its worthless but Kool!
OK...ya could always buy a trailer along with it.Hmmmmmm..Why'dja have ta go and post that???
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying,"Damn... that was fun!"
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If I ever hit the lotto, I'm gonna buy one and use it to flatten vans.
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I'll take the black one...you can have the blue one..ok?
Whatduz mine cost ya think...uhhhmmm...about $40ish
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I see a quite a few of those, set up with a flat deck and fifth wheel RV, driven by retirees, parked at the local Indian Casino.
I believe Freightliner and a couple other heavy truck mfgr's also produce them.
>I see a quite a few of those, set up with a flat deck and fifth wheel RV, driven by retirees, parked at the local Indian Casino. <Any one of those three things alone is enough to strike fear in my heart; the three combined? A veritable trifecta of terror. ;^) I think the cab and frame is the basic setup for tow trucks and cement mixers; the pickup bed is just an add-on of excess. :^)soj
Andy,
When I'm not driving my truck, I'm driving the minivan with the kids, so I've been forced to give up the "cool" thing a number of years ago! ;)
Seriously, I truly prefer the visibility of a standard-cab truck (WITHOUT canopy). I know people can drive perfectly safe with mirrors, etc., but I'm just more comfortable with a direct line of sight. I used to ride a motorcycle back in my college years, so maybe that's where the need for all that visibility comes from.
"like a logical reason to me."logic + vehicles = does not compute
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I=agree (this time..only cuz it ain't political : )
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I agree. I'm not even a pro and I find myself wanting to buy a used fleet van, as a project truck, over a pickup. I could even crash in the back on a road trip. I don't get where pickups are going. The cargo area is getting worthlessly small.
Some of us don't need to worry about rain because it rarely rains where we live. Some of us don't need to worry about theft because there is so little crime. Some of us haul firewood, lumber, rocks, garbage, cmu and lots of other things for which a van is a PITA.
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I really really really... ... really really really want Toyata to put out a diesel work van...Wars of nations are fought to change maps.
But wars of poverty are fought to map change.
I really really really... ... really really really want Toyata to put out a diesel work van...<<<
and that bed looks just about big enough to carry your new MM : )
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Far cry from my long time companion, a 91 Toyota short bed 2WD w/receiver hitch. I've got an 8ft folding trailer standing up in the garage. Between the truck and the trailer I can haul a full ton of materials, legally. Still gets 29mpg, empty. The PU usually has an aluminum cap on it.
The folding trailer is the perfect solution for so many jobs. It'll carry motorcycles as easily as building materials. Takes about two minutes to unfold and hook up. Uses about one foot of garage space, against the wall in front of my truck. They sell on Ebay for about $350, last time I looked. Don't require any insurance. Registration is near nothing. Never in the way but always there when I need it.
That's such a good sales pitch, I should be hawkin' them thangs my own sef, Jethro.
I'm skeptical of the 10,000 pound towing capacity and the trucks ability to stop 10,000 pounds without brakes on the trailer especially going downhill fast like in the commercial. I also wonder about that trucks ability to start 10,000 pounds from a dead stop going uphill over and over again on 1/2 truck parts without eventually breaking something major like a rear end or transmission.
The trailer better be a tandem axle or more(with good electric or hydraulic brakes) or else the front end of that truck would probably be just about up off the ground with 10,000 pounds on it.
I drive a 3/4 ton Dodge diesel(truck weighs 8800 lbs) and tow a tandem axle trailer that weighs 6000 pounds plus. The trailer lightens the front end of my truck a little and I gaurantee that without brakes on my trailer given the same ramps as on those commercials I would have either ended up in the gorge or jack-knifed off the side of the(slippery metal) downhill ramp.
Don't get me wrong, I admire Toyota's ability to build dependable. low maintenance, gas vehicles that will probably stay out of the junkyard and repair shop for probably longer than any of the Big 3's gas powered trucks but I wouldn't buy one for real heavy duty work.
I think the fact that brakes on the trailer are a given as they offer the wiring, however I bet some fool will try and take them at their face value and forget that towing does not mean stopping and your scenario will play out. I am sure that there is fine print somewhere to cya Toyota. Can't wait to see somebody try to duplicate the tv add with the acceleration and stopping with a cliff at the end. We have a nation of people that are "Darwin award candidates" you see them every day doing 80 in a 55 and around here the weather can change in a heartbeat. When it gets really slick it is a toss up whether the SUV's out number the 4x4's upside down in the ditch.
I didn't know you could legally tow a trailer over 2500lbs without brakes. Furthermore I didn't think there were any pickups out there that could claim to safely stop a trailer weighing that much without trailer brakes.Karl
I remember renting a uhaul trailer that didn't have trailer brakes, except for a runaway brake. Trailer was limited to well over 2500 lbs. I think it was probably an actual 5 or 6 thousand. Did fine behind an f-250.zak
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"so it goes"
The limit varies from state to state. I think some do allow trailering up to about 6000# with out trailer brakes. Anything over that with no brakes would be insane anyways.
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I do not think Toyota intended the new Tundra to compete in any heavy-duty market. I think its only meant to compete against the Sierra 1500, Ram 1500, and F-150. Why anyone would assume otherwise is questionable.
Given that realization, why not go buy a Ford F-150 for 0% financing for 60-months? No, I am not advocating Ford, but then this is the reality of things. And along with that reality is that most Chevy Sierra consumers will paything for them. LOL :)
Seriously, Ford, Dodge, and Chevy have to give some major incentives to sell their pickups. Don't believe me? Then continue to ignore every sold PU that got sold below what the manufacturer suggested its product was worth.
This Spring Toyota will go after a goal of putting a lot more Tundras onto the streets of America, and they are currently willing to pay for that goal's success by giving dealers the means to do so. So, maybe no one wants to buy those new Tundras but somehow I think PU buyers will get them in groves.
Now what I would really like to see is some stats on the percentage of MSRP that the competition PUs sold for, and do this both in the environment of manufacturer financing incentives and not. Loyalty is not part of this equation. When you cannot get a loyalist to pay what the manufacturer says its worth, then it ain't worth the same to the loyalist.
So, with the axiom that the Tundra is not competing in the HDPU market, I think they will continue to make some sales. And the fella that traded in his tricked-out F-250 show-piece for a new Tundra (my local Toyota dealership) was especially funny.
It could be some states let you tow 6k lbs without brakes. Are you sure the trailer didn't have surge brakes with a hydraulic actuator mounted on the tongue.The only other thing I can come up with to refute my weight limit on unbraked trailers is all the motorhomes I see flat towing a passenger car behind with a tow bar. I don't think there is any way to use the towed vehicles brakes. A lot of passenger vehicles weigh well over 3000 lbsKarl
I'm not sure about the uhaul setup, maybe it did have some brakes. Not electronic brakes though. I'm pretty used to hauling a trailer with brakes, and this one definitely didn't feel like it had brakes.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Yeah, I believe it varies from state to state. My point is that they don't tell you these things on a commercial yet a lot of people will swallow the marketing gimmicks hook, line and sinker. The original post on this topic suggested that it could be a good truck for contractors -- maybe so - maybe not. I just am encouraging people to do there research before they buy anything with that kind of price tag on it.
Chances are most people will buy this truck because it is pretty and can tow and stop 10,000 lbs., not because they will actually ever use it for that purpose.
Whoopti Friggin Doo.
15-18MPG on the new Tundra.
Why don't truck manufactures come out with a 4wd with better gas mileage.
It seems like manufacftures are about 5 years behind. I don't want more horsepower, or rear backup cameras I want to spend less at the pump.
Filled up today in upstate NY $2.82. OUCH!
"I don't want more horsepower, or rear backup cameras I want to spend less at the pump. Filled up today in upstate NY $2.82. OUCH!"
No kidding! Looks like you can't even get a 4-banger in these any more. Course, I'm not a pro so don't have to lug so much around, but I've had no problem with my old Toyota hauling 1500#, at over 20 mpg. Oh, and regular is north of $3 in CA, with record profits all around for the producers...
"It looks like they are going after the F150 market in a big way. "
Yes, this is exactly what they are doing. Do you plan on hauling a trailer to the dealership to test a new Tundra with? I would think with all those commercials they'd let you give it a whirl.
And regarding the commercials and the contractors showing up in non-Tundra PUs ...
How could they show up for a commercial on a vehicle that hadn't been released yet? Damn, there goes common sense again. :)
Advice: If you need to tow, bring a trailer and let the dealership embarrass themselves. If they refuse, call the local news. I would!
It looks like Toyota is going after all of the "American" trucks and I for one will be buying one soon. I have a 2000GMC Sierra that I will love parting with. While it is powerful,comfortable and a hard worker, it is a money pit. I spend $4000-$5000 a year on repairs not including oil,tires etc. I am looking forward to a tough,reliable Toyota that doesn't spend a couple of days in the shop every other month. Oh yes, it was made in Canada.