There is an old thread in the archives with no responses on this topic, so here’s a restart:
We are going to be installing hardiplank on a 13′ high 1-1/2 story house, and would like a 10″ reveal to scale properly. With the large reveal, we need to thicken the planks so it creates some shadow line.
What I was thinking for the strips would be to rip in half from the narrowest profile (~6″), and use the two finished edges as the exposed side. There would still be a seam underneath, but at least it would have a finished edge.
I’ve contacted Hardi, and they have the Artistan line which is thicker, but not in wider profiles, and no plans to run it in a 10″ reveal.
Anyone seen this done before?
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I've never seen it done. But so what? That just makes this "research"! ;-)
How are you planning to keep the "starter strip" in place - face nail thru both pieces? A bead of caulk or glue between the pieces? I suppose that could work. You might wanna make up a mock-up to see how it would look. Even the factory edge on Hardi isn't all that straight/smooth, but it might look OK after paint and, if needed, a little caulk.
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
and no plans to run it in a 10" reveal.>>>>>>>>>>>..
Therein lies your problem, not the thicker material. I have heard of a thicker, 5/8", coming to the states, but how are you going to get the 10" reveal?
The appropriate look is the Select Cedarmill, which comes in 12" widths (10.75" reveal)
http://www.jameshardie.com/homeowner/products_siding_hardieplankLapSiding.py
I was debating a wood strip as a spacer, but this is going on an ICF house so I'd like to avoid anything that can rot.
The 5.25" planks ripped in half would provide a good spacer 2.5" wide with one finished edge. We could blind and face nail the planks to make sure they stay tight if needed.
kicker .. the product i was thinking of is not a Fiber cement
but it is a composite , and other than price, it looked to be superior to FC
it is 7/16" thick, better finished than FC, and can be installed in
4", 5", 6" & 7" reveals...... ( 5, 6, 7, & 8" widths )
Microposite
http://www.microposite.com/product_overview.html
Certainteed makes a 5/16" Fiber Cement lap siding in 12" widths
http://www.certainteed.com/resources/FC016.pdf
I prefer Certainteed FC to HardieMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Microposite
I've had a sample of that stuff for 2 or 3 years. Looks interesting. Combine that with PVC mouldings with the channel that the siding hides behind, you got a pretty slick job.
Nevr seen it around here. Not sure it caught on to well.
5/16" is just too thin, it doesn't look right when the heritage houses in the area were using 1/2" cedar bevel siding.
So even with the Certainteed product in the 12" width, would you use strips as backer to make the panels 2 x 5/16"? (5/8" total)
I'm surprised that more folk on here haven't tried this, do you not find that the standard FC siding products look too "flat"? Or does nobody go for a 10"+ reveal? We have a 1-1/2 baloon frame plane with 3ft kneewalls, giving us 12ft high to the start of the gables. With this scale, and smaller reveal is very busy.
Edited 3/27/2009 9:00 pm ET by kicker
no....i wouldn't use strips to fatten the edges... if you use FC strips they will be blown apart...
and also, it gets too fat
5/16 x2 = 5/8
what is a 10" exposure trying to simulate ?Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Could you explain what you meant by the FC strip blowing apart?
The thickness and exposure is trying to represent the beveled siding common to our West Coast style.
The concept was to take a drawing for a simple small house, and scale everything up about 20%. The house is ICF with 14" thick wall, the front door is 42"x8'0", the walls, garage door, and everything are all scaled up a bit to look like a small house but be a little larger inside.
Attached is a rough front elevation, the first being at the 10" reveal we're going for, and the second at a 7" reveal.
Thanks for the feedback so far!
I wouldn't use fiber cement strips to thicken the edge. Ripping it would be a pain. There's no way you would be able to pick up and install a 12 foot long narrow piece with out breaking it, so the only way to make that work would be to pre install it to the planks. I believe the amount of work to do that will easily quadruple the work.
i saw a new product at JLC.... when i get back i'll look it up... might be just what you want.. and the savings in labor will offset the upcharge
Could you attach some pics now that you've presumably done it?
Highly unlikely being all this time.