I normally use titebond (regular) but HD didn’t have any so I thought I’d try titebond II. I poured it in my glue bottles and when I went to use it it seemed watery and not very tacky. To you who know this product….
Is it totally different than regular?
Does it have a longer open time?
is it OK for indoor trim applications?
should I throw it away?
are you supposed to stir it?
Edited 10/27/2004 6:43 pm ET by ALLENSCHELL2
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I use Titebond II cause it can be used inside or out
it does run a little
can't remember if I used the Titebond
if I did it was years ago
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We use it all the time. When we switched from the original titbond to the Tite II I noticed there seemed to be more solids to sand away when doing stain grade, but overall I am happy with it for in ot out.
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did it seem runny compared to titeI? Maybe I gotta bad bottle.
I use it all the time. It does not seem runny, and it has plenty of tack. No stirring required.
The first time I used any, maybe 15 years ago, I didn't know it was different than ordinary PVA and only found out when it wouldn't wash out of my jeans.
Sounds like you got a bad bottle. I'd get another, somewhere else. Maybe yours got frozen, or baked, or taken over a high mountain pass.
Thanks David!
"Runny" is a fairly subjective term, and in comparison to the old type, I really can't remember. I diod have a discussion with a Franklin rep at a JLC show and was told they will always gladly refund if there is any question, and had the advice that the only time it is bad, is if it haas aged or frozen to the point that the components separate and different colours are present. I just threw away an old bottle that was behind the seat of the truck last winter and it had dark yellow in oart of it.
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Did you get the white bottle with blue cap? They make Titebond II in an extend version. The glue is more like an off white color and thin like heavy latex paint. The Titebond II Premium glue, semi clear bottle, is just a shade more yellow and a bit thicker than original Titebond. You may have picked up the Extend Wood Glue.
I've been using TII as my main glue for a while. I'm rethinking it because, I don't often need a water resistant, it doesn't wash off aprons or clothes, it ruins your glue brush if you leave it out. Back to original for me.
There are some thick molding glues out there that are run resistant.
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"...HD didn't have any so I thought I'd try titebond II. I poured it in my glue bottles and when I went to use it it seemed watery..."
Reading that, I couldn't help but remember the stories about people buying paint at HD, using the paint, then refilling the cans with water and returning them...
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Thanks to all for your help, I stuck an couple scraps of oak handrail together overnight and knocked them apart this morning and the joint was stronger than the wood so apparantly the stuff has plenty of stickem, just acts different than tite I.
Boss: Ever hear about the time HD took back a Craftsman mower???
My wifew was therte one night when some yahoo came in with what was obviously a 5 gal bucket of paint they had picked up of the curb at a garbage pick up point. They gave them a store credit. I was there the night some REAL man was shoplifting - he put stuff in his wife's baby stroller for her to push out the door. She got caught and embarassed beyond all belief. He walked away scott free.
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I used a gallon of the II, and went back to I because the II is more runny, and I don't have the luxury of turning things to keep the wet surfaces horizontal. I was sistering some joists, and sheathing a small 7 in 12 roof. It would run and drip off the sisters before I could get them whacked into place.
-- J.S.
>>> I was sistering some joists, and sheathing a small 7 in 12 roof. It would run and drip off the sisters before I could get them whacked into place.
That's what construction adhesive is for, something like PL premium, better grab/gap filling than runny glue which is more suited for smoother surfaces and woodworking vs rough carpentry.
True, but is it as strong as titebond? I've tried liquid nails, but not PL, and I don't think it's as good.
-- J.S.
Is it as strong as Titebond? You better believe it. PL premium is the best stuff earth as a construction adhesive.... which is a very different animal than wood glue. You're comparing apples to oranges John.
Thanks for the info. I'll get some PL and do some destructive testing. The reason I like titebond is that the glue is stronger than the wood. If you glue two scraps together and break the joint, it's the wood that fails. In most structural failures, it's the nails that pull out instead of the wood breaking.
-- J.S.
J.S.: I'll chime in with more praises for PL Premium as a construction adhesive. I ran out of PL once, and the local hardware store only carried Liquid Nails. So I tried it ... ughhh! It was junk. PL Premium is a beautiful thing. I spread it with a disposable toothed trowel ... once it sets up, it peels cleanly off the trowel, which is left good-as-new. A metal toothed-trowel, on the other hand, becomes "disposable" if you use it with PL Premium. The stuff will adhere to it forever.
Allen
Edited 11/2/2004 1:21 am ET by Allen
liquid nails is a joke. low quality, over-marketed product, pushed to appeal to sunday DYI HO's :-). Do they still have that ad with the twiggy-like model brandishing a big caulk gun (or 2?) Yeah, right, I'm impressed...
One more vote for PL premium and no time for liquid nails.
While still on this subject, has any one tried titebond III? Supposed to be waterproof, & water cleanup. I like poly glues (PL, excel, gorilla...) but they're a bit thick & not as easy to spread as regular wood glues. We're talking for woodworking, not construction here. They also stain one's hands and are a bitch to clean, this new product might just be the ticket. Ad even claims it's stronger than poly!!! Haven't seen it in a store yet but will try it when I find it.