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Toilet Bowl bolts too short !!

MBaybut | Posted in General Discussion on July 21, 2008 11:04am

Just went to reinstall my toilet after laying floor tile. I bought new bolts that have the snap off tip thinking that that would give me the additional length, alas, no. The new bolts are just peeking out the holes. Can I get longer bolts or will I have to replace the flange? Floor is slab.
Mike

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  1. JTC1 | Jul 21, 2008 11:20pm | #1

    Options:

    1) longer bolts - how long are the ones you have now?

    2) Get and install a repair flane on top of the existing flange.

    3) Seems to me I have seen flange "extenders" - try to find one.

    Good luck.

    Jim

    Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
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    PaulBinCT | Jul 22, 2008 12:09am | #2

    Hard to imagine... aren't the new bolts like 3 inches long?  If they are just poking out before you compress the wax ring, you'll probably be OK.  I'd try lining it up, really squashing the wax ring and then see how much thread you have...

    PaulB

     

    1. CeltsFan | Jul 22, 2008 12:42am | #4

      Isn't that a little risky? My contractor told me once about a nearby job where the plumber squished the wax ring too much so that when they flushed the toilet, it went everywhere (and into the condo below). Unlike problems with the tank-bowl connection - that ain't clean water.

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        PaulBinCT | Jul 22, 2008 12:48am | #5

        Nah... unless you compress it so much that it no longer seals... they are intended to be squashed quite a lot. Look at the one you took off.PaulB

         

        1. MSLiechty | Jul 22, 2008 01:44am | #6

          Think you much you are squishing you you ploop you big @$$ on it. In my case thats a 225 Lb Squish. get some 3" toilet bolts unless your tile/morter is real thick you should have no trouble.ML

    2. MBaybut | Jul 22, 2008 01:55am | #7

      Not quite sure how long the bolts are, I'm not at the job now. But I was dry fitting the toilet without the wax seal and I'm still just popping up out the hole. I'm thinking I may have to raise the flange.
      Mike

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        PaulBinCT | Jul 22, 2008 02:02am | #8

        Well... unless your new flooring raised the hieght by a few inches I just can't see how you need that but........................PaulB

         

  3. Jamie_Buxton | Jul 22, 2008 12:10am | #3

    You may have two problems.  If the bolts are too short, the wax ring may not be sealing at the top either.

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    Heck | Jul 22, 2008 02:11am | #9

    View Image

    http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/51-291-toilet-bolts-and-washers/toilet-flange-bolts-195412.aspx

    http://www.hectorshardware.biz/shop/product.asp?dept_id=1607&sku=434845&

     


           

    1. MBaybut | Jul 22, 2008 03:16am | #13

      Heck, Thanks, That's what I needed.
      Mike

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        Heck | Jul 22, 2008 04:45am | #14

        You're welcome. Glad you got it worked out. 

               

  5. CaseyR | Jul 22, 2008 02:30am | #10

    If you raised the toilet that much off the flange that 3" bolts won't work, I can't image that the wax ring will continue to provide an adequate seal. IIRK, the plastic cone type water closet seals are just about 3" long. In any event, I would get one of the flange adapters that are available at most home centers and hardware stores.

  6. Tyr | Jul 22, 2008 02:48am | #11

    I have often found 1/4" zinc plated lags in place of standard toilet bolts. Those were into wood floor framing through. They do come in many lengths though--easily 6-10 inches. What ever you use has to screw into something like a lead shield in that slab. It shouldn't be difficult to get a SS lag, size it for length, hacksaw off the hex head, get your handy tap & die set, thread the shank, double nut it w/SS nuts, throw some SS washers over the hole, crank it down, fill up some covers with plumbers putty, push them over the double nuts and you just solved a problem that others are still scratching their heads over. I'm assuming you removed the toilet for the tiling so the base is raised 3/8" from where it started but that's cake. Tyr

    1. MBaybut | Jul 22, 2008 03:15am | #12

      Thanks All,
      I'd picked up 2 1/4" bolts instead of the 3 1/4. They just looked longer than the originals because of the snap off. There's another $3.14 down the drain.
      Mike

      1. brucet9 | Jul 22, 2008 05:32am | #15

        "I'd picked up 2 1/4" bolts instead of the 3 1/4. There's another $3.14 down the drain."Won't that clog up the waste line? :)
        BruceT

        1. MBaybut | Jul 22, 2008 03:57pm | #16

          Guffer, Guffer ;-)

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