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Trays and Hardieshingle

Bluemoose | Posted in Photo Gallery on May 6, 2005 04:03am

We’ve been framing our trays the last couple of days so I thought I’d post some pictures. I enjoy framing these, though it always seems like we have to put in more work than the truss designer intended.

Theoretically, the trusses will have the pitch of the tray created on two sides and we have to frame in the other two sides and put in necessary blocking. In reality, we usually have to create three sides of the tray so it is centered in the room.

I think we might start asking the truss company to just leave us an extra 2 feet in height in a room with a tray so we can frame in whatever we need.

I’ve also included a couple pics of some Hardieshingle we finished up a month or so ago as well as a pic of the house with the trays (Tillman001).

The Hardieshingle was in the 4-foot sheets and went up pretty quickly once we got the hang of it. The recommended reveal isn’t much for how tall the sheets are!

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  1. jimblodgett | May 06, 2005 04:47am | #1

    Nice looking, man.  How do you lay that out?  You snap it out on the floor then bob (or laser) up?

    Sure glad I'm not taping that mamma jamma.

     

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      Bluemoose | May 06, 2005 05:12am | #2

      Nothing so complicated as that. I'll pick one wall to use as the baseline. Say that the tray starts at 23 1/2" away from the wall on that truss, I just run a string at 23 1/2" on the trusses around the room. Then for the upper part of the tray, I just lay it out with string or blocking using the diagonal I've come up with for the pitch of the tray.

  2. Brian | May 06, 2005 06:28am | #3

    Do you remember what you paid for the hardie material? - HD prices were outrageous here in MD.  I'd love to shingle my gables, but unless I can find it cheaper, no go.

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      Bluemoose | May 08, 2005 06:28am | #5

      I can't remember what my boss said he paid for the material. I do know that it was prohibitively expensive to do any more than those Boston hips. It seems like he said it was at least 4-5 times more expensive than regular Hardieplank. I'll try to remember to ask him on Monday.

    2. Phyrphlyer | May 08, 2005 09:09am | #6

      Best price I could find here in Chicago was about $410/sq. for the shingle profiles in either Hardi or Certainteed which was way too rich for my blood. In search of an alternative "look" that was interesting and still within my budget I finally decided to rip  7 1/4" planks into 2 1/4" strips which yields three per plank. I nail up a full 7 1/4" plank course, then add a 2 1/4" strip at the top. When the next course of full planks is hung I have a 1" reveal just below it which mimics a double course. It's a nice look for about $125/sq. but it's obviously labor intensive, not to mention dusty. I was ripping strips on my tablesaw the other day out on the driveway and a cop pulled up and asked if the house were on fire.

      Surprisingly, the narrow 12' long strips can be handled without breaking if you exercise just a little caution. The other downside to double coursing is that the lower edges of the courses stand a bit proud of standard 1X trim boards. 5/4 trim just covers, but it's another additional cost.

      One other note: Both Malco and a small outfit called The Labor Saver make gauges for the 7 1/4" fibercement planks but the Malco gauges are easier to use when working singlehandedly as I am.

      I'll try to post some photos here when the job is finished if anyone is interested, but it'll be a while. I've already dubbed this "The Project From Hell" and it's likely going to cost me a whole summer.

      1. butch | May 08, 2005 03:32pm | #7

        I would be interested in some pic. Would like to see the finished product and how it turned out.

  3. JohnT8 | May 06, 2005 06:50pm | #4

    Keep the tray pics coming.  Neat to see them progress to finished product.

    Here are the tray pics in reduced file size for the folks using a telegraph to connect to the internet.

     

    jt8

    It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

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