I’m installing a light fixture and it says to insert the mounting screws into the match hole. on the mouning bracket there are three holes about the same sixe, an on oblong one, is it this one? If so than why cant I thread into it if im supposed to?
It takes studs to build a house
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Thats Chinese for "Matching HOLES"
Have at it.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
You can't get it to work because you're using the lighter holes, not the match holes.
A man, convinced against his will... Is of his own opinion, still. ~Anne McCaffrey
I think your mistake is reading the instructions. But you're young yet, so we won't hold it against you.
"If at first you don't succeed, try reading directions."
no clue...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I vote with Sphere's translation.
Jim
I was going to say that it's where you light the powder, but then remembered that's a "touch hole."
Andy,
I am a HUGE fan of instructions. The only time I don't read the instructions is if I have installed the item a few times recently.
I read the instructions and I follow them...
....until they don't make sense. Then I just use logic and common sense to figure it out.
Rich Beckman
Oh, and it's the same old story
Ever since the world began
Everybody got the runs for glory
Nobody stop and scrutinize the plan
Nobody stop and scrutinize the plan
Nobody stop and scrutinize the plan
Paul Simon, 1973
Wuss, you probably put the toilet seat down too. (;-) Someone will be at your door soon to repossess your man-card.
"Wuss, you probably put the toilet seat down too. (;-) "Yup. Even when I lived by myself. It just looks better that way.
"Someone will be at your door soon to repossess your man-card."
Joke's on you. I was never issued one.:)
Rich Beckman
Oh, and it's the same old story
Ever since the world began
Everybody got the runs for glory
Nobody stop and scrutinize the plan
Nobody stop and scrutinize the plan
Nobody stop and scrutinize the planPaul Simon, 1973
this is why we make good candidates ...
I too an an avid direction reader!
fired a kid once because ... for the third time ... he refused to sit down and read before screwing something up ...
"looked like the last one I built" ... or words to that effect.
re, the toilet seat. For years ... I left it up and Cath threw a fit ...
"what if I fall in" ... or some other nonsense.
then ... years back ... we get pet cats.
that day ... I start putting the seat down.
she asks? Y now all of a sudden?
"cause I don't want the cats to fall in and get hurt!"
she wasn't happy with that answer either ...
something abour her feelings ... years ... a cat? I dunno.
it all blurs together.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
A match hole?
That's something Sphere bends over and puts a flame next to when he's drunk and looking for laughs.
laugh, laugh, laugh, they call him the laffer
snorK*
oh thanks for all the help guys. anyways, calling a neighbor who knows electricity well enough to handle this
It takes studs to build a house
andyfew322, I am getting curiouser and curiouser as to your circumstances.
Your profile says 14yo...but you're drywalling commercially ... and matching electrical fixtures to their holes. Also, you post like a mature person. But you don't have a vehicle. Hmmm.
You one of them time travellers Robert Heinlen wrote about?
I'm not drywalling commercially, just residentially LOL. I'm just weird like that.
It takes studs to build a house
The term has nothing to do with electricity, per se.
What you are trying to do is simply match a primary hole with its mate.
If it's a fixture such as the light fixture attached to a ceiling fan there are 2-3 clearance holes that align with the threaded holes so you can attach the fixture to the fan housing.
Some of these are specific enough that you must line up a key or similar before you can align the proper fastening holes.
If you have a low grade cheapie fixture there are times that the manufacturing process fails to thread the receiving holes and you can't force the screw in.
Furthermore, if it's the mounting bracket strap that attaches to the ceiling box you may have more than one option depending on the type of lamp fixture you are installing.
The common one is a formed strap that is screwed to the two threaded ears of the box using the oblong holes in each end of the strap. Most fixtures come with the proper screws in a little plastic bag. Use the #8 screws.
The other screws, usually two are screwed into the bracket, business end down, with the light fixtures coressponing holes accepting these screw through the housing and then fastened with acorn nuts.
The simplest fixture houseing does not even have that strap. #8 screws of proper length are started into the j-box ears, the fixture is placed so the head of the screws come through the fixture housing in the opposing clearance holes, the fixture is given a slight turn to engage the smaller extension of the mounting holes (called a keyhole) and then tightened to hold the fixture against the ceiling.
I'm I close?
Edited 12/31/2007 12:12 am ET by RalphWicklund
WELL FINALLY I GET A USEFULL POST. thanks
It takes studs to build a house
Read the edit, too.
Welcome to Breaktime, kid.;o)You're going to have to learn not to take yourself too seriously.What I mean by that is this...You have laughed many times, already, when others have gotten funny/non-serious answers.But you were getting upset that -you- were getting funny/non-serious answers.That's called taking yourself too seriously. Otherwise known as having a thin skin.=0)As you have found out, just be patient, laugh at yourself... Or just ignore the answers that are not what you need. Sooner or later someone will come along and give you the answer you actually need.
A man, convinced against his will... Is of his own opinion, still. ~Anne McCaffrey
yeah I know. some were quite funny, but as the title said it was kinda urgent. oh well there's always tomarrow and it is my own house and not a costomers.
It takes studs to build a house
It appears you already know I wasn't busting yer chops.But I thought I'd make a point of telling you anyway.;o)
A man, convinced against his will... Is of his own opinion, still. ~Anne McCaffrey
And I thought "match hole " was the last hole in a sudden death overtime in golf.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I thought it was the hole on my propane lantern. Put there so I can light it.
A man, convinced against his will... Is of his own opinion, still. ~Anne McCaffrey
There should be a posting of all of the "English" instructions of stuff made in China or elsewhere. You'd think they'd at least hire one American to proof read their interpretations before printing the booklets. My latest was my Honda manual giving me advice on checking the "blake" fluid.
For a good chuckle, check out http://www.engrish.com for a lot "lost in translation" examples. LOL...Diane
I remember one set of instructions that drove me crazy. Was good, well-structured English, but lots of typos and I couldn't figure out what some of the words were at all. Finally I realized that it had been retyped from a fax, and, knowing how a fax distorts, I was able to sort it out.They spent the money to hire a good writer (probably working remotely in the US) and then blew it by using a fax to communicate.
If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
Well I finally got them in, and once I found out how (the directions were pretty much useless). the second one went up in five min.
It takes studs to build a house
Well, actually the 2nd or 3rd post said it was Chinese for "matching holes", which was the correct answer.Even pre-China light fixtures were poorly made and things didn't always align perfectly. Plus often mounting brackets are made for 3-4 different fixtures and you have to figure out which holes work for which fixture. It's a bit unusual for them to even come with instructions, and often you do have to essentially throw the instructions away anyway due to some problem with an odd-sized box or some such.With light fixture mounting there's nothing electrical to be concerned with, other than leaving clearance for the wires, so any mounting scheme that works and produces a reasonably solid result (if you can call any fixture "solid") is OK. You really can (and sometimes should) ignore the instructions.One hint, though, is to always pre-check the fit of the mounting bracket to the fixture before you start installing it, so you can figure out which mounting holes to use, which screws fit, etc. Much easier to do this on a table rather than standing at the top of a ladder.
If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
'zactly.
Wait'll he gets into assembling stationary power tools and such..I've seen directions that were so bad I had to read the FRench or Spanish version because the Engrish was indecipherable..LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Follow this link only if you have an hour or so to laugh yourself sick:http://www.engrish.com/Do NOT take a sip of coffee just before reading.I work with about 80% English as second language folks (Chinese, Korean, Russian, Ukrainian. . .) I almost died laughing.
Past life job I was a purchase agent for a lumber yard/hardware store.
Ii had a guy on a Thurs morning ask for a sundy paper..Vietnamese I think.
I said dude, its thurs day and even if it was sunday, we don't have sunday papers.
'No, NO I want SUNDY PAPA.."
Look bud..I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO FIND A SUNDAY PAPER ON THURSDAY! CAPICE?
'But NO NO NO I want SUNDEEEE PAPER!
This went on way too long..finally..he rubbed his hands together and said SEE SANDEE?
I said "AWE hell..SAND PAPER?"
Yes!! YES!! SANDEE paper..
Oh..Isle 7..LOL
Man what a morning that was.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I've listened to click and clack the tappet bros pn the radio when I can. They're funny and informative.
Anyway, a guy called up about a problem and he said he had read the manual and it just didn't make sense in his situation.
So they said throw the manual out. I like it. If the manual doesn't make sense you have surpassed what it can tell you. And that's not hard to do with chinese instructions.
"I've listened to click and clack the tappet bros pn the radio when I can. They're funny and informative."
I listen to them every chance I get, Saturday at ten.Just there laugh will put you in a good mood!!
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