A new house is being framed in my neighborhood, They started about a month ago. It’s all framed up now, but there’s no sheathing on the roof yet. In the month of December we had about 12 precipitation events, including rain, freezing rain, and snow. We got a few inches of snow last night and we’re suppossed to get rain this weekend. How many times can an exposed frame tolerate being soaked before damage starts to occur?
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In Washington, we would say that you just asked a really really stupid question
ROFLMAO!!! Ain't that the the truth! squeegees being an essential part of the tool kit .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I don't know how you guys in the Pacific Northwest do it.I'd rather work in snow than rain.John Svenson, builder, remodeler, NE Ohio
You either get "molded" by the weather or you don't work work .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
My sites are concrete so it's nuisance more than anything, but our general is from Texas & brought up how things will be delayed if the rain hits------ everyone was real silent & looked around at each other---- one guy asked " does this guy know where he is".
"Why do you hurt me when I do bad things to you?" My youngest son to his older brother
A few years back I met with a G.C. who was from the land of endless sun. He told me he was up here to hire supers and carps to bring down there so that he could work year round. His guys went home when it started to sprinkle.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
clap, clap, clap, Very funny:)
roger
I'm pretty sure you can find wet/dry cycle info on the APA website.
Rich
The limit seems to be the subfloor.. How bad is it affected? there are good better best plywood and OSB for rain issues..
I know that the OSB on my roof went thru 4 years winter and summer and still was solid and took nails perfectly.
4 years exposed osb? In MN? I can't see how that is possible.
You don't know Frenchie, do ya?
redeyefly.
Well the first panels went on in 2001 and the roof didn't get covered untill I finished the roof over the east wing in 2005 . There are differant grades of OSB and the panels I used were made by R control who use a good grade of OSB.
you can see pictures of my house at 85891.1 and 94941.1 You'll note this is a double timberframe where I took rough sawn timbers and did all the joinery and finishing work myself.. If you've been on this forum since 2000 you could have followed my progress.
Floating around someplace are the original pictures taken sometime in 2002 (I think) the shakes have been on long enough and thru enough really high winds by now that if there was any weakness in the OSB they would have sailed off to never never land..
That portion of the roof is a 17/12 pitch which might have helped. ( the steep part is 27 /12 pitch)
I looked around in there the other day. The first floor deck looks kind of weathered, a lot of water dripping on it in various spots when i was there.
Rich,
is it OSB or plywood? .. If it's plywood the only risk is if it's starting to delaminate (cheap plywood)
if it's OSB check to see if it's buldging up at the seams..
And Timber framed construction is the cheapest type of construction.
What does that even mean?
J. D. ReynoldsHome Improvements
Or you could ask redeyedfly what he/she meant by "
You don't know Frenchie, do ya?"
And there are others who will tell you. It is pretty comical actually. In time you can figure it out yourself as well. Good for a laugh.
DoRight,
It was for me, It always used to be there was a time when sawmill wood was rare and expensive Framing with a bunch of small expensive sticks didn't make much sense.
However I live where hardwood is abundant and cheap, others may not. I don't bill myself for the time I spend working on my place, those in the business have to..
Others could follow my example if they choose to but most don't care or won't put forth the effort..
"And Timber framed construction is the cheapest type of construction."
Frenchy. Don't feed him. He is back for one of his periodic visits to cause trouble.
fingersandtoes,
Sorry, I thought speaking logically was called for.. If he's just a troller than I' put him on ignore.
I guess it's not for me to say, but you've been down that road with him before.
fingersandtoes,
Thanks for the heads up.
fingersandtoes.
Nothing could be farther from the truth. If frenchy says timber framing is cheap and OSB can be left in the rain for four years, I would not think to saying anything about it. Those statements stand on there own, and hey consider the source. Ask redeyedfly, Piffin, etal..
He is back for one of his periodic visits to cause trouble.
Was I napping and missed a good fight ?? Were do I find this......Naive but refreshing !
Ask frenchy.
I agree with Frenchy. OSB and Plywood can withstand multiple years of exposure and still be functional. It all depends on the quality of each product.
Most ply will delaminate in the first or second rain if it's going to.
I've had both exposed for several years and it was fine.
Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Here in the PNW you regularly arrive on site to find the subfloor filled to the bottom plate with water. Cutting out the plate at doors right away helps. Then I usually drill holes to help drainage. Where the plumbing rough-ins are going is the first choice, unfortunately they have to be at least 3/4" to be effective or they clog with construction debris. I am always surprised at how fast the subfloor dries out if it has somewhere to drain to.
As to the framing lumber. The only difference I've noticed between houses I've framed in winter or summer is a few more nail pops in the drywall.
Thanks to you and Frenchy and others for answering my question. I was pretty surprised to get slapped in the face at first, I'm glad there are people out there that are willing to answer a question from someone who's not in the business.
I don't think they meant to be rude. There are periodic questions about working in the rain which to us here in the PNW seem funny because we don't get to do anything else. I'll take a day with light rain over a really hot sunny day every time.
One poster in Texas described having to shake rattlesnakes out of the pipes they were laying before connecting them. I'll take a day of heavy rain over that experience.
Just because they answered your question doesn't mean that there information is correct.
I don't usually go around asking people who sell ladders how to do construction.
Especially people who sell ladders and have not been able to actually build A house. - well documented.
I'm sure the house in your neighborhood will be fine. It was a bunch of trees and mud before it was lumber and building material. That's where experience and understand of materials starts to come into play. It's pretty much the builders baby to raise.
If he doesn't do it right, it's his loss.
Some people here have built extremely good structures over a long period of time, they just know that they will have to deal with the issues of exposure.
Remodeling Contractor just on the other side of the Glass City
the frenchy battle aside,
when I framed up my addition, standing water left for a few weeks while awaiting materials caused a buildup of mold thruout, and some delamination on the ply subfloor. A coupla gallons of bleach and a coupla dry days helped solve that problem.
Expert since 10 am.
But the expert(s) say OSB in the rain is fine after four years. Go figure. I'm just say'n.
I mean correct me if I am wrong. Someone here did say that, and left out the part about the beach. Who am I to say that OSB can not be left in the rain for four years? The turnip patch is laoded.