Where the heck are you?
Anyone knowing his whereabouts, or wishing to find out what the heck this Warrior post is about, or those still wanting to give him and his family a hand up………
my gawd, that’s an address and a half.
And please, no horse stuff in this thread.
thanks.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
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Not finding Paypal attractive, I wrote to him as he asked. Haven't heard a peep.
PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Me too...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
What is PAHS?
In PA by any chance?
CurlyHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
What is PAHS?
In PA by any chance?
Could be PA, could be almost anywhere. <g> A little different from "Hand Hewn". Mine don't look like this, but take a peek here:
http://www.axwoodfarm.com/PAHS/UmbrellaHouse.htmlPAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Great link Tom, thanks. Takes me back to my "New Shelter" reading days.
Glad you enjoyed it. It's largely an excerpt from Hait's 1983 book. I live in one that looks very unlike Hait's igloo but functions similarly. Cheap to build, cheap to operate, and very nearly zero maintenance. Hard to get much better. PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Thanks for clearing that up for me. "Bury it" should have be the clear signal, but alas I can be as dense as the earth around you house.
CurlyHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
>Takes me back to my "New Shelter" reading days.
A magazine near and dear to my heart! My brother worked for Rodale Press as circ manager for Organic Gardening then. An editor for New Shelter helped me build a redwood greenhouse onto my house as research for an article. I remember this guy telling me about a board shooting back from the table saw and nearly turning him into a eunuch. Think of that every time I turn on my saw, and move a step to the right.
jim.. could he hit Hi- c after that ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I think it was more like a deep moan and groan.
I was sorry to see New Shelter morph into something much less interesting and then disappear. Unfortunately, Rodale's Organic Gardening also seems to have disappeared from the news stands around here (Portland, OR), although their Organic Style seems to be at most of them (not quite my type of magazine, however). I may have to get busy and put up my mail box so I can subscribe to OG and a few others, although perusing them at the magazine rack seems to be more, if somewhat more expensive...
Oh man, I used to pour over those things, man. Loved them. Envelope houses. Solar orientation. Thromb walls. Earth Sheltered houses. All that stuff. Read t Mother Earth News cover to cover about the same time, but New Shelter was my favorite.
Still have a bunch of the books I ordered from them "The Solar Home Book", "The 50 Dollar and Up Underground House Book", "Building With Green Lumber", "Build Your Own Doors and Windows"...probably lots more.
What the heck, anybody know of any good alternative building magazines available today?
What, you mean Dwell doesn't do it for you...
Occasionally something pops up on Oikos that is interesting, but it tends to focus more on details than do-it-yourself alternative houses:
http://oikos.com/index.lasso
Still not quite on target, but there is a "green" building section as well as "alternative housing" at:
http://www.housingzone.com/weeklynews.asp
Home Power magazine sometimes has some interesting articles among their "how I did it" on photovoltaics, small turbine power, etc. The magazine coss a small fortune on the newstand (almost as bad as Fine HomeBuilding) but they make it available free on their website:
http://www.homepower.com/
When I get time, I will dig around for some more. However, I have a couple of boxes of old New Shelter magazines in my garage. If they aren't too mildewed, you are welcome to come down and dig through them some time....
The way things are going with our presently deteriorating supply of lumber I wager they will all be alternative building magazines eventually. :-)>
I just got my new issue of "Walls and Ceilings." Cover story... "There's No Place Like Dome."
Is that a Cloud of change I see building overhead?
Wet Head - prayers are with you my man... touch base when you can.Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
>I just got my new issue of "Walls and Ceilings." Cover story... "There's No Place Like Dome." Is that a Cloud of change I see building overhead?
Trying to ride the crest of a wave! We're showing up all over the place, huh?
> The way things are going with our presently deteriorating supply of lumber I wager they will all be alternative building magazines eventually. :-)>
But, paradoxically, when that happens there'll be no alternative. Sort of a Zen meets Murphy's Law kind of thing.... ;-)
-- J.S.
Picked up a couple of 2x4's the other day. They were from Germany of all places; last thing I expected to see here in MN. No complaints though, about the nicest looking stuff I've seen in awhile. Straight, few knots, and actually had four corners the whole length.
Did you measure them carefully? Are the Germans milling to our 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" dimensions, or shipping the nearest standard metric size? When I was in Norway and Sweden, I saw the equivalent of a 2x4 which was called a 45 x 95. Its actual dimensions were something like 38 x 87.
-- J.S.
I'm stickin' with 2x4s. No way I want to throw a bunch of 45x95s up on my shoulder and pack them up a flight of stairs, that sounds WAY too heavy.
I'd imagine those German studs were plenty ridgid though.
I'm part German.
Which part? the 45 or the 95?
I guess it won't be long before Jim is looking for a young stud to carry and tote for him.
;)
Part german myself. Grew up being told that I was nearly 100% but then I found out there ain't no such thing.
Excellence is its own reward!
Probably shouldn't comment until I run those numbers through a milimeter-inches calculator.
I am 50% Pennsylvania German, 50% Hungarian.
You can't do anything about the 1st 50% but take a minuet and get something to eat and take care of that other 50%.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I was pretty sure your last name was slavic.
Excellence is its own reward!
Every posting here is another turn of the wheels for you, Wethead. Every time I see the thread title, it reminds me to say a prayer for you.
Keep those wheels turning, We're cheering for you..
Excellence is its own reward!
1-3/4"x3-3/4".
Yup... Heavier...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
"slavic"? What's slavic about "Hidden"? Must be shortened, huh?
I'm sorry jim, that would be from hiddeninski.
You bet your dupa.
They eat sausage.
They're slavic.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
That's for 45 x 95. But the 45 x 95's when you measure them are actually something less, like 38 x 89, I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was real close to our 2x4's.
-- J.S.
38 came out to 1-1/2" and 89 worked out to be 3-15/32"
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I have used 2x4's form Eastern Europe a few times. They cost a little more than the "center cut" (used to be the stuff that they threw away) offered by big orange. They are however, straight, square, and smell just like old growth long leaf pine. Love that smell. They are a little hard to nail near the edge though. Who'd a ever thunk that framing lumber would be imported to the USA from Europe? Go figure.
KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
Near as I can tell, they are intended for the US market. They are 1 1/2"x3 1/2" and even though they are from Germany, they have a WCLB inspection stamp.
just a note to say that he's in my thoughts.
My brother had advanced to VP of Circ, and then Pres of one of their mags and then left the company. Word is that the family members that deigned it their birthright to take over operation of the company in the wake of Robert Rodale's untimely death, may have shared genetic material with their dad, but did not share his visionary sense or business sense. From all accounts, the company is a shell of its former self. Maybe that's stated too harshly, but the results are kinda speaking for themselves.
From all accounts, the company is a shell of its former self.
So, their just doing dome articles now hu? :-)>Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Anyone know how many issues of New Shelter were published before they closed down?
I'm still chasing down back issues when I can. Still love them things.
I posted this in a couple of threads about him..
I heard back from him, no address though.. says all is well but he's at either his brothers or brother in laws house, and his computer is shot.
now if he only had a gps.......
sorry, will go back to my cornerbobl Volo, non valeo
GPS are great time savers.
There are several windfarm companies checking the local area for possibilities and their men use them. Saves having to go with them to keep them from being lost or go find them after they get lost.
Surely WHW will chime in soon, knowing how all here are waiting for hopefully good news. NC is not that far from where he was last.
Eh hem. . .
Sorry to interrupt,
but has anyone heard anything from WHW????
Hey!
A post that concerns WHW's whereabouts.
Am I in the right thread?
There really are some of us that are concerned about his predicament.
Can we keep the other topics out of this thread. Then if there is a new post, it will be relative.
Thanks so much,
BrianView Image
bee, you know we would if we could... but ... but .. but
well, wet would digress , too, wouldn't he ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Keeping the thread active and bumped to the top where WHW can find it is worth keeping it full of banter. besides. I just learned something to stir my imagination..
Excellence is its own reward!
is it the stuff dreams are made of ?Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
What, gettin' your scrote pierced by an off cut?
Edited 11/20/2003 9:14:19 PM ET by jim blodgett
that would ring my "bells"...thought Wet said he was detouring to see his bro in CA before heading here to the Old North State...I thought he wuz gonna sit on my porch a spell<G>
EliphIno!
That sounds like time for a session on tablesaw safety.
Excellence is its own reward!
Hey Piff.. What think of Nick getting a new Bosch 4000 table saw?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Old St Nick could drop one off to my place, for sure. I'd promise to keep my stuff out of the line of fire..
Excellence is its own reward!
Nick sounded like a kid in the candy store for the first time with a pocket full of money.
Ask Nick (Nukem) real nice and I'm sure he'll let you borrow it for as long as you like.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Well, he got so much advice on buying it that I feel like it belongs to all of us. It's OUR saw!.
Excellence is its own reward!
the Great get our saw back campain under way now?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I tried to write you an email about a problem with the Bosch and how you solved it, but I was told that since I was not a "Friend", I must be a <shudder> SPAMMER!!!!
Quality repairs for your home.
Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada
You gonna send the email?
I'm waiting...
You shouldn't have been snagged by the anti spam.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Here it is more than 5 hours latter and not a peep.... WELL!
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Really sorry for the delay.
Had to go out and learn about taking care of autistic children.
Fallin asleep in the room and she drones on. <She, smiling brightly> "Everybody awake?"
Me. "My day normally starts at 5 and I do physical work all day".
She. "Oh, my, it's nearly 9:30. Any questions?"
DW in car, on the way home "Oh, yes, I have to get a new DDS speaker phone for the office. It won't take long."
Me. "I still have to off-load and reload the van for the morning".
I get inside - daughter in L.A. calling to chat about her newly issued green card.
Cripes! Only 5 hours?Quality repairs for your home.
Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada
It's over 6 hours now but whose counting? LOL
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"... taking care of autistic children. "---
Anything you want to ask? You got an "expert" here.
What kid, sex (may make a big difference), specific subdiagnoses, etc.?
Have you tried this for definitions:
http://isn.net/~jypsy ("Oops, wrong planet!"). Click on the top on site map and then, in the new page, go to the bottom: Autism and related disorders.
Early intervention seems the key to a fairly well adapted grown up later.
Be sure to get in touch with support groups, because the field is fairly new and much is going on that is ineffective and even more that is very helpful. Don't want to lose time that could be better spent.
In the US, many schools have excellent early intervention programs.
Then, maybe you already know all this.
Edited 11/27/2003 8:29:31 AM ET by Ruby
Hi Wet Head Warrior,
Still worried about you and your family. Hoping for the best, and looking forward to hearing you and family are okay.
I went out west of town day before yesterday to the little country store and asked Arlin if he had heard anything about your trip. He didn't have any news. Did buy some great Amish style cheddar cheese
Hang in there big guy. We are pulling for you.
Brian from BuffaloView Image
Thanks for the info.
We are foster parents and our support worker suggested we take in the workshop. It was interesting because of the 85+ or so kids we have fostered, none have been autistic.Quality repairs for your home.
Aaron the HandymanVancouver, Canada
As you could see in the links I supplied, autism, like cancer, has a very broad definition.
Depending on how you count, about one in 250 to one in 500 kids have some autistic traits and one in 10.000 may have full blown autism.
So you were right in there to have one to 85 with it. Besides, statistics don't work with small numbers, so the next foster may too have some autistic tendencies, or not.
What many people forget is that autistic kids eventually grow into adults too. Since by then many have integrated sufficiently to pass for normal, if maybe a little eccentric, they disappear from society's "autistic" label. That has caused some confusion and just now the field is learning more what to do to help when young so the integration is brought along in a smoother way.
It is painful to grow up being different. It seems especially hard for boys with autistic traits because they seem to have more problems in things where it is important to being a boy. Girls tend to shut down and not be noticed as much.
I am impressed that you have been able to foster that many kids. That is tremendous work. Good for you.
I am sure that you will have plenty of good help thru the system that fosters, but if you have any extra questions, e-mail me.
Is a child that looses focus considered to be Austistic. Don't know how to desribe it any better. This is a kid that seems to forget what is going on and moves on to some thing else or makes a major all consuming project out of some thing.
For instance, the word "sit." This kid can spend hours rewritting the word because the "i" isn't dotted just right or the cross for the "t" isn't perfect either.
If you can sortta nudge him a little he's easy to get back on track until he comes across the word "sit" again.
I cobbled together some left over computer stuff and gave it to him. They way the kid took to it, BWTB, that in short order he'll be a world class geek.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Yes, you describe one kind of glitch that autistic kids can get into, OCD, obsessive/compulsive disorder. Very common way for the autistic brain to try to hang onto known things, to stop the anxiety producing mad garbled world their brain, due to improper filtering of the sensory input, delivers to them.
I bet that he also can't stand labels in clothes, or food of certain colors/shapes/textures, or repeats the same words continuously, etc...you get the idea.
He is not being silly, he can't help it. He is trying to make sense of the world, best he can.
Still, it takes a professional to diagnose anyone. A few traits could have any one of several other reasons that autism.
Autism is a very specific cluster of traits but any one trait alone can have other causes too.
Just another Bump in Wet's thread.View Image
All that hammering!
Isn't your elbow getting awfully sore?
WOW! You hit that like you have had personal observation.
Green veggies seem to be a bit more than upsetting and all foods must be organized just so.
I have limited exposure to this kid. Getting a handle on this makes going with the flow so much easier. Patience is easy to find.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"Patience..."---
You hit it right. It takes patience because most people think and learn fast all over at the same time. Autistic people may learn super fast on some type questions and very slow, with many repetitions, in others. What will they be good at or not will depend on what part of their brain was not developed and integrated well at the right time and how it compensated for it.
It takes patience to lean to let them have their time responding and learning when they need that extra time and not get frustrated when they, at other times, act like you are being the slow one.
Giving those kids structure to live by is a very good idea. Computers do that in that very specific medium and that let's them be good at something and so relax.
Autistic kids tend to want all the same all the time. They have trouble with changes. Why? Maybe because the senses are not as well integrated as in most other people and cause changes they have to filter thru all the time. So they try to control into sameness all they can do so. Sameness is a security blanket.
A little like living in a slightly out of focus world you have to keep adjusting for and never quite get used to it. What you can keep the same, you hang onto.
Good that you can help that kid. Just knowing that you are there for him, patient, will let him grow and learn. That alone is big help.
Up to now, autistic people had to make it best they could and were lucky to have understanding people around them.
Today, there is professional help and some use medications. I don't know what tomorrow's autistic people will be like, that had early intervention. Hopefully it will make their lives easier.
Ruby
I'm trying to follow along on the discussion that you and IMERC are having regarding the Autistic child.
Is there a book that I can get on this subject that is for the lay person, something for the person that cant digest the scientific mumble jumble.
Thanks
Doug
Doug,
I liked the books by Temple Grandin but Ruby probably has more.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-6665945-2204855
KK
Thanks
This subject has become very interesting to me.
Doug
There are different kinds of autism.
I gave a site with many definitions in a post above, the "Oops, wrong planet" site.
Basically, it is a certain way that our brains, that are supposed to be growing at a certain rate and different parts coming on line like clockwork, hit some glitches.
Depending on what glitches and how they happen, some of those are considered autism or autistic traits. Those tend to be found in families, have a tendency to be inherited but are not expressed but in a very few individuals in every generation, or even skip some.
There are many other possible causes for changes in normal brain development, like birth trauma, etc., so not all abnormal symptoms are autism.
There are kinds of profound autism that can be a severe handicap. Temple Grandin's kind was called "Highly Functioning Autism", one of the least severe of them. Today, that has been subclassified again in that, if the symptoms show early and are more specific, or Asperger Syndrome, if they show a different clinical picture.
Remember that those are abnormal changes but not mental disorders, even if they can lead to them. To be different doesn't mean anything is wrong. It is right for that kid but it will need to learn to live with people with differently wired brains, so will have to adapt. It can be very hard for parents and caretakers.
This specific kind that T. Grandin has contributed to some of the best minds in some areas, like Newton and Einstein. Being wired differently doesn't have to be bad if the kid learns to adjust.
What kind are you interesed in, or is it moot question, since they are hard to tell apart sometimes?
Here is one site that will explain much on the kind that T. Grandin has.
There are professionals that can answer questions that can be found in the several Autism Associations you can find thru a Google search.
http://www.aspergersyndrome.org/
There are plenty of books on these subjects written by the parents of kids in these situations. Very interesting reading for the layman, with good references to learn more and places to get help. E-mail me with any specifics and I will tell you what books I have to loan for you to read, if interested, or to have your library get for you.
All libraries have a budget to buy books and love to get requests from the public. Autism is becoming more recognized and libraries in your area may already have many books on the subject. Check with them.
Edited 11/28/2003 8:15:14 PM ET by Ruby
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Turn on a light. Scold whoever moved the coffee table and things like that won't happen.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
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Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
bobl Volo, non valeo
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and a little kick in the pants, too
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oh heck, no
one end was up and I slid down
get your level out!
I took a replacement moniter over to that kid this morning.
What made it note worthy that within a moment of hooking it up he dialed it in to his liking on his own....
When I went to leave I got a helva hand shake and a bunch of thank yous. This is the first time I've seen spontaneous actions from him. Usally he's kind quiet and generally doesn't speak unless spoken to.
I thought it was cool.....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"When I went to leave I got a helva hand shake and a bunch of thank yous. This is the first time I've seen spontaneous actions from him."---
The world can use many more like you and those others that help. Never enough people that can help a kid along...thanks from all of us.:-)
I didn't do any thing...
Swaped out moniters is all. His old one was very old....
Must have just hit his fancy.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Autistic people may learn super fast on some type questions and very slow, with many repetitions, in others. What will they be good at or not will depend on what part of their brain was not developed and integrated well at the right time and how it compensated for it.
...and not get frustrated when they, at other times, act like you are being the slow one.
...tend to want all the same all the time. They have trouble with changes. Why? Maybe because the senses are not as well integrated as in most other people and cause changes they have to filter thru all the time. So they try to control into sameness all they can do so. Sameness is a security blanket.
A little like living in a slightly out of focus world you have to keep adjusting for and never quite get used to it. What you can keep the same, you hang onto.
I see that there is a name for my condition....
---"I see that there is a name for my condition...."---
If rather than one in 250 to 500 people had those autistic traits, if the world was brain wired the opposite, where those traits were expressed in the majority and what we consider "normal" today were the odd ones out, the world would be easy for you, rather than hard.
In a few families, most members have such traits and the normal kid is the one having trouble. The world is not as he thinks it should be. Frustrating.
In autism, some traits make people "blind" to important parts of interpersonal relations. That can be handicap later, if as a kid they don't learn to pay attention to that.
If you think you have those traits, learn more about it. Knowledge is power over the unknown that may trip us.
Ruby,
As a long time lurker on this forum, your autism conversation finally brought me out. I have a son who is 5 with autism. From your posts I seem to remember that you are from Asheville. I live just across the mountain in Johnson City. Nothing like necessity to make a layman an expert! You must have someone in your family with autism. So far you have given excellent insight into autism. We have a support group in Johnson City and many sources of information. Email me if I can be of any assistance.
---"From your posts I seem to remember that you are from Asheville."---
No, I live a little bit further West, in the TX Panhandle.
I think that you or anyone familiar with this would have been able to write the same posts.
There are many people out there that are not aware of this and the only exposure they may have to these puzzles is thru reading by chance in places like this.
Some may gain some insight for themselves and so make their lives more understandable, others will see this reflected in family members/friends they now may understand better and others find it a very interesting part of how humans may differ from each other.
I hope that those that are wondering and the ones that needed more information will take you up on the offer for more direct information on resources and support groups in your area. Those are invaluable because it is a very complex field.
Thanks for offering your help. I hope that the right resources are there and are what your son can thrive in, hard as I know may be for your family.
We have done well to explain to all what physical processes humans go thru and how they can change, for better and worse and it is time we do so with mental ones.
Will make for more compassionate people, when differences in all of us will be understood and taken as part of who we are, not used to discriminate, as we have tended to do.
Welcome!
What shall we talk about now?
while we're waiting.....
Pick a subject... Any subject....
There must be one that you want to know about...
How about one that you didn't want to know about...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Dennis and his urgent need for a new, more improved driver that can pay attention to what he's doing.
That driver sure cost some body a ton of money.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Edited 12/2/2003 11:38:05 AM ET by IMERC
That was a pretty wild deal! I hope Dennis is going to be okay. Best wishes to him.
How long have you been involved in the construction industry?
Long enough to get your feet wet, I can tell.
But Our friend Richard has been long enough to get his head wet apparantly.
Excellence is its own reward!
Well, I have had several days of wet feet, doing exterior trim. <g>
Actually, only about 4 years as a career, but wish I had been brave enough to pursue it sooner, because I love it! I was raised in a beautiful old craftsman which was under constant renovation for most of my childhood.... (And Jencar is my hero!!!) Most of my work past experience was in customer service/restaurant-bar-country club management, but I built a house with my brother, and also some major handy-type stuff, throughout that time.
Anyway, I finally took the plunge! I worked for a GC for 2 1/2 years, who built new houses, but also remodels, and additions. Then for a builder/developer in a TND/New Urbanistic environment. First, on the exterior trim crew, but I also did quite a bit of warranty work for the company. I moved back to the exterior trim crew, and I am currently layed-off. I would prefer going back to remodeling, because I love looking inside old walls.
Sorry, probably more than what you asked for, but I am working on my resume'. <g>
(how did I do?)
Hi Darcy and everyone else,
Just got a note from WHW, he's safe.
It said..............
Just got to NC on Thanksgiving Day. Had a wreck in Memphis! But we are all
OK.
I'll tell the whole story to all.
RichardView Image
well, now that was a ThanksgivingMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Glad he is alive, we need him back on line.
An ex-boat builder treading water!
Good to hear, that tell all piece should be good relaxing therapy for him when he gets a chance to do it..
Excellence is its own reward!
Not too much at all.
I haver noticed you here on and off without too much mention of exactly what you did or for how long, but you seemed to have something worthwhile to say when you said it..
Excellence is its own reward!
Consider me a student of yours and others. I have learned a great deal here.
darcy
Hey Piff.. What think of Nick getting a new Bosch 4000 table saw
hey you..I get credit for that thought.that was my post mister! lol
BE circumsized
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
oh yeh, and......I think if we scroll through E bay we may find WHW plus I could use him once I'm done framing here.......BIG TIME!
Be wet ; )~
andyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I'm 50% from Germany, and the the other 50% from Bern, a German hunk of Switzerland. On top of that, I'm 100% Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Dutch and nobody on any side is from Holland! And, I'm just trying to help keep this thread on top, 'til we hear from the wet headed one...
EliphIno!
Say now. PA Dutch are you? Vie Gaits! Schwenkfelder here..kin came over in 1734..settled in around Phila. and north..
"WE grow too soon oldt, und too late Schmardt" Duane Kriebel
>Vie Gaits!
As Dad would say, "Hell mit the gates, jump the fence!"
>Schwenkfelder here..kin came over in 1734..settled in around Phila. and north..
Allentown, myself. Actually, a small town named Macungie. I can do the PD accent, which seems really funny to the Appalachian folk around here where I am now.
Ah,, Jayykee.
I do a lot of business with those with flat hats.
KarlHand Hewn Restorations Inc.
Restoring the past for the future.
.
I've a couple freinds in Allentown.
Excellence is its own reward!
Spent 40 years thereabouts. Long enough for anyone to be anywhere.
I'm thinkin' it would be a lot easier to build straight gaits. What would be the advantage of a V-shaped one?
saves having to check for plumb mate! Quittintime
Or, I gyess if you have a little too much rum it could give you a V gait.
Cloud..this is too %^$#*ING STRANGE..First I email ya about the Spheramid, Then I see a post about Premonitions..I too moved from Zionsville/Emmaus/Macugie area to Western NC. What gives? I just landed here in KY last month (long story) and aquired the property I had been "seeing" for years..But NC was home for 8 years.
Now I have a new delemma I got the land with a 150 yr.old log home on it..needs MUCHO work..'nother long story..thats why I been crusin BT again after a few years away. The past owner knew enough to be dangerous, he built a 16x42 2 story addition on the north side of said house..did it the half azzed and quit when it was 70% done .The one thing that really sucks is that he took out the original stone walk-thru fireplace...So there is a GAPING vacant spot where it once stood..there is a few clues as to what there was , hearth extensions on the floors in two rooms that are back to back, big pile of rocks out side etc.
Iam going to have to make it livable for the wife and myself till the "dream house" gets built..like SOON. The fireplace that I saw on the back of FHB (yours) is EXACTLY what I want to do..could I get some better Pics.? And info on flue and damper size? It will be tough to find a willing mason here..thinking about doing it myself..any help? Duane
At least I have no connection to Kentucky.
Emmaus, home of Rodale Press, publisher of the defunct New Shelter magazine discussed elsewhere around here. Went to Emmaus JHS before moving north an hour. You know Macungie? Granddad built the brick house across Main Street from the bank. When I sold my house in Allentown a few years ago, my realtor was dating the son of the people who bought the Macungie house from my parents 32 years earlier!
I'll look for F/P pix. Flue is mostly a function of opening sizes. Just followed the charts.
Well No one knows how to pronounce "E-MOSS"..even the PADOT got it wrong on the exit sign on 309 North!..<g>. My Ol man was the production engineer @ Alllen Organ Co. since like '47..he made one of the first solid state keyboards on our kitchen table when I was a kid..maybe that explains why I got into building pipe organs when I got the woodworking bug. Worked in Pottstown, doing that.
Got a buddy who's S>O. works @ Rodale..She is Diana Erny Assoc. Ed for Org. style I think...he's an Arch. in Powder Valley, Phil Kelly. Does a lot of barn recycleing last I heard. Didn't know the place last time I was home..cookie-cutter house's EVERYWHERE..I-78 had a lot to do w/it..
High School..Quakertown for me..back in '78. E-moss useta kick butt in football, then.
Lokking forward to the f/p pics. I am still tryin to figgur out how to attach to a pic to a post.
A friend of my mom's worked at Allen Organ for many years. His name was Jim Feller, I think. He passed away a few years ago. I'm sure your dad would known him.
Now see how weirdly connected this is, One of my customers has a daughter at Rodale Press. I think she is in the Marketing end, not editorial. I don't know her married name..
Excellence is its own reward!
I just want to wish everyone an early happy Thanksgiving, especially the WetHeadWanderer. I'll be away on vacation for the next week, so I won't be able to keep up with what's going on 'til I get home.
Yeah...kinda twilight zone-ish..we can blame it all on Wet Head..it was a good way to get us Totally involved in a thread that doesn't actually exist anymore..now THATS strange <G>
The friend I have there has been there (at Rodale) for at least 10 yrs..Last I saw her was when OG turned to OS.. about a year and a half ago..If it aint the same person we know of I am sure THEY know ea. other..Rodale aint that big a place..and alot of the employees live nearby Emmaus...Small damn world...Duane
just bumping it back up
FWIW, I was born in Easton.Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
Musta cruised larry Holms Dr. A million times..that and going after Shad at the fish ladder up there..cool place. Oh, I almost forgot the Jersey runs in High school....you probly know why..
Cool! My turn to bump it up.
Where o where did Wet Head go? O where o where can he be...
I need a beer. I'm looking forward to my favorite brew - No Doubt Stout crafted by The Elliott Bay Brewery. This week promises to be a week of Mondays...Liberal Arts Graduate
Will Think for Food
Would it have had anything to do with NJ's lower drinking age at the time? You probably went to Norton's Cork and Bottle on 22 in Phillipsburg. I turned 18 just months before they raised the age. Remember the Eric Theatres? That's where I had the most amazing movie experience of my young life -- Seeing the first Star Wars. My date (who, btw, I've been married to now for 15 years) and I just stayed in our seats when the movie ended, and watched it again.
Although I was born in Easton, I grew up outside of Belvidere, in NJ.
And hey, speaking of Shad, lay hands on John McPhee's newest book, The Founding Fish. It's all about the natural and human history of shad, with a bunch of McPhee's own fishing stories thrown in. And a lot of it happens right along that stretch of the Delaware. It's McPhee's best, and that's mighty praise.
Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
Edited 12/3/2003 10:41:23 AM ET by ANDYENGEL
Edited 12/3/2003 10:41:48 AM ET by ANDYENGEL
AH..those were the days...I had forgotten those places (gee..blackouts?)..I do remember some places South of there I think the Riegelsville bridge?..some place called "The Red Rooster" and "Hoots"...Gawd, I'd hafta dig out my Yearbook from 1978 when I graduated..we all made references to the Jersey runs..I was in a Eric theaters and never SAW the movie..<G>..I did there same with the high school sweetie..'cept it was >>met her when I was 15, married at 22, divorced at 30...
Sadly, those windy roads back from Jersey took the toll on three of my classmates..highschool muscle cars/ and alcohol..BAD MIX...
Now that both states are at 21 I guess that the excitement of crossing the river is not the same..less of course.."headin' to the 'shore!!!"....my GP's had a house in WildWood Crest...talk about a party town!...still smell the ocean..MMMM OCEEAAN..
Hey, Cloud,
Want I should pick you up in Asheville in the a.m. -- we can go to the big hill on I40 and dig in the sand in the runaway ramps....see if we can dig up WHW's truck and trailer?
Edited 11/27/2003 8:05:16 PM ET by ProBozo
Sure, though from what I heard, traffic was so bad that at 10 mph even his overloaded trailer wouldn'ta got in trouble. I'll just be chillin with my bil and his kid and mine.........and the designs I gotta finish..........and the flooring I gotta put down. Maybe another day is better. Kinda bummed WHW didn't give a buzz as he went by (assuming he's made it this far) be/c I can look out my front window and see the interstate.......see, it's right there below the clouds, which, if he were driving by, would make us cloud hidden.........get it? :)
WOW, nice view...asheville area is around my favorite part of the state.
Call if you need a housesitter. :)
jim.. have you got "Cold Mountain " on your must see list ?...
great pic.... yours, i meanMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I know you told me where your house is before but I forgot. The circled area is near what exit and what is the bearing from your place? I will try to post a picture from my deck (last winter). The humpback ridge on right is Mt. Mitchell
Edited 1/23/2004 7:31:25 PM ET by RASCONC
Exit 53 is S-SE of us.
Mike, Cold Mountain (the book) is on my Xmas list.
"Mike, Cold Mountain (the book) is on my Xmas list."
You are in for a treat.
But I gotta say, with a view like that, I don't know how you get any work done - that is beautiful...sure I can't come build something there? Just for a few months...when you're away so I don't bother you too much maybe?
Well, I could use some DR cabinetry, but I'd have to stick around so that you had someone to bend an elbow with at the end of the day, you understand.
You don't need any forts or tree houses built? Something right out front there? Maybe a hammock put up?
The DR shares the view....the workshop, too! Never more than a coupla steps from it.
Ya, 1732 Lancaster County. Gotta go, time to throw the horse over the fence some hay! EliphIno!
Sorry to say, no.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin,
We can only hope all is well with Wet Head. . .
Okay guys, talk among yourselves. . . and keep the thread alive. Good job!
Hopefully, we'll hear from him soon. . .
darcy
Dear Andy Engel,
Thank you for allowing this thread to remain.
darcy
Hi Darcy, and everyone else
I spent some time trying to get in touch with someone from the local Mennonite church here in Buffalo.
WHW's wife is from here or at least has family here.
I haven't had any calls returned,but if I get word, I will let you all know.
Richard, you are on our minds. Hoping the best for you and family.
Brian
Hi Brian,
I hope you hear something today. Keep us updated.
darcy
What horseing around?
Still no one has heard any thing. Not even a rumor.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Imerc, I was hoping to keep the discussion focused on WH, I had misinterpreted the talk turning to everything under the sun. Sorry. Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hard to stay focused on a ghostly image.
Hopefully he is ok and will regain substance.
not really knowing my US geography i got the atlas out the other day to see how far he was travelling.
blimey! thats a long way to move.
so by my poor map reading he'd got 1/3 to 1/2 the way when he posted. pretty good as i get the impression that he's not driving a shiney new truck but something more akin to what you find in the farmers field?
i reckon hes on the move again??(maybe)
but its a shame that he didn't fed ex it all as we could watch and see where he was everytime he got scanned!!!!!!
Yeah! That's what we need!A tracking number.
what the heck was I thinking?
Here's the number,
http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-breaktime&msg=36948.1.
Excellence is its own reward!
I'm gonna take a chance that you are the shep(pard) that sent a donation to WH through Quittintime. I will be coupling it with some others and send it to WH's paypal account. I will fwd the message to him that you included in your letter via paypal. Could you send me your email address so I could include that also..............if you're not the shep I think, please pass this on to he and his wife.
thanks,
calvinRemodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
If anybody noticed WHW posted a notice in the classifed section regarding some Chestnut wood that his BIL had for sell.
I called on it because I want some and he called me back tonight.
WHW's BIL said that he thought that the family may have made it to NC or they would be there shortly. He wasnt sure exactly(he's in Virginia I think).
BIL also said that WH got hit by a semi in Tenn. or some place like that, said that he heard that the semi swerved to miss something and it hit WH's truck. Said that the truck was still driveable.
He didnt have any more info than that, but it does sound like maybe he is or has gotten there.
Doug
This the posting yur talking about????
My brother-in-law recently found a chestnut barn. He is resawing the logs. A lot of them are 14" to 16"
Folks, this is PRIME stuff. Nail hole free, reclaimed chestnut I suppose you could get it custom sawn, but you just have to ask him.
He is in WV but can deliver most anywhere.
Call Jay at 304-667-3011
Tell him Richard sent you.
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IMERC
damn aren't you the private investigator..WOWWWWWWWWWW.
and what other business are you in?
My guess is that you've done a bit of writting...interested in sharing any of it with us?????? Besides what you write here of course.
Be well written
andy
PS....talk again soon broMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Doug@es is the one that found it.
Don't credit me. It all belongs to Doug...
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How many articles have you written in FHB under an alias?
You and that A C feller.... HUH!!!!
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Who's puttin' AC in in the winter?
You and Clifford... Sounds more like a snow job in the making instead of just plain ole AC.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
What is it, 10 o'clock in Colorado?
It's time for you to throw some more wood in the heater.
Nope. Just after 9...
Did the heater thing around 8. Good to daylight...
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And I'm a latte and two cokes readying the night in the main lobby out front at the store using foot high irrigation control covers as sawhorses and cutting curves in melemine with my jigsaw.
A little sawdust never hurt a carpet. Maybe the glue residue will kill the dust mites.
Finished up a small guesstimate. Called it in and it was accepted.
Wife wants finished what the husband started 4 years ago.
Got new box of books today that I'm gonna explore in a bit.
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Keeping up the banter for WetHead...
Am curious what was in that box of books?
One the top layer was mostly Zane Gray.
Why is it women are so impatient. After all 4 years isn't that long of a time for working on your own stuff.
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Well, if you get tired of Zane Gray here's some literature to ponder. I was going to send iy for AC since he seems to have a brainiac side to him.
You do know what these molecules are, don't you? ;-)
Been a long long time.
What I do remember is the taste of something like three day old sweatsocks and paranoia over 'is there too much strychnine in those white fibers?'.
The 70s were a wild time.
70's.... So how do you plan on catching up kid???
You missed an entire era....
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Ruby and Merc-
Ah,living in the 70s ain't that all bad.
Look, the flared leg jeans made a comeback.
I'm waiting for the no-heeled Earthshoes to come around again.
Wonder if AC still has a pair of those.
Merc- since you're the one who designated tonight the 'pick on AC night' don't be surprised if he doesn't invite you to his Breakfest.
That sounds like a time I'd travel out there for to see that cool old house.
Sorry Andy, this is all in fun you know.
Here's a peace offering...
Merc- since you're the one who designated tonight the 'pick on AC night' don't be surprised if he doesn't invite you to his Breakfest.
I did??? I wouldn't do something like that. Not me....
If went on invite, AC would probably put me to work and want to to do a flame ware on politics untill my head imploded...
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Sorry man, but I don't do poli or religion.
But I'm really getting a bit too loose on these last cuts.
If someone here were to read these posts they might think I was doing something else besides a latenight caffine jag.
Agree. Just rang 12 AM here. Pumpking awaiting. G' nite.
G'nite.
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YAH!... Yah... that's the ticket...
Blame it on the coffee.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
ok ok so it's a portercable and not a bosch, alright?
It don't got no ittybitty lite in'nare so the shadows throw me off.
Edited 11/26/2003 1:12:02 AM ET by rez
Real men do Bosch....
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Ok, if I had it to do over again it would be bosch.
But this PC jig is ok.
Love the bosch drills. Fit like a glove.
And the steel planetary gears puts me in orbit.
And the steel planetary gears puts me in orbit.
Thought you were already there...
Besides that. Nite rez. I'd like to get a couple of hours of reading in.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
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Hit the space bar instead then that little period isn't out there all by it's lonesome....
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I expect all are frisked at the gate before granting entry to those parties.
The way some sound here, I would want to know all participants didn't have anything more serious than hands, a bottle or chair to handle their differences of opinion.
didn't have anything more serious than hands, a bottle or chair to handle their differences of opinion.
Dunno--several folks here might be able to create a decent swath with only chairs, bottle, and/or hands. Might be a couple who shouldn't even be allowed a 1# bag of marshmellows . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I'm waiting for the no-heeled Earthshoes to come around again.
Wonder if AC still has a pair of those.
Never wore those ugly things..I went barefoot or wore clogs and still do.
Wonder if they'll ever make work clogs......hmmmm
Be well AndyMy life is my practice!
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
For WHW, hope you're in your new home safe and sound, and that you and all that read this have a GREAT Thanksgiving!!!
Ruby... Did you know Rez is doing work for and hangs out in Oklahoma's largest used book store. Talk about a cool place to work.
I do believe Rez stepped in it with that posting. HEH HEH HEH HEH....
Aside from about 20 books the box is all ZG. I haven't read any since I was a kid either. It will be like all new reading.
Now for the umpteenth topic change. Is there any links covering the the Pann Handle that you recomend???
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---"Is there any links covering the the Pann Handle that you recomend???"---
Never occurred to me to look for any from here. What for, living here? There is not that much to this area that anyone living here for a while has not heard or seen.
I worked on a "hole in the mall" bookstore after school hours for a while. Learned to read new books very carefully, without disturbing them, so they looked unopened.
Seventh heaven has nothing on that line of work. Lucky Rez, even if his taste in organic chemistry is a little outdated.;-)
There are 2 Baxter Blacks in the new collection. Too bad the flavor of humor will go over some of these here sticks in the mud heads.....
You say a little out dated. Is that as in one of our "over yonder" littles or justa might furth'r kinda little.... Stuff he wants to play with will more than likely rot his brain along with his teeth....
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Baxter Black is funny if you have been on the north end of a tall south facing cow, with your arm deep in there (remember I am very short) checking to give a favorite old cow one last chance to redeem herself or a, well, censurable epithet cow a ticket to critter heaven.<G>
P.S. Hard to type that listening to Vivaldi's L'Estro Armonico.
Hard to type that listening to Vivaldi's L'Estro Armonico
Ouh oh. My rude crude cultureless self is showing. Don't know this.
Would you enlighten me?
How short is short? Don't recall ever seeing a mention.
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---"Ouh oh. My rude crude cultureless self is showing. Don't know this."---
Meant it was playing too loud into my ear. Nothing to do with culture.;-)
---"How short is short? Don't recall ever seeing a mention."---
"Short"? A line is a series of points between two. I guess that one point would be how short CAN short be. Unless it is lonely and a space bar click willl solve that, as you advised.
ROAR!!!!
Meant the artist and point A to point B is less than six foot five I take it
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---"Meant the artist and point A to point B is less than six foot five I take it"---
Vivaldi is the background Muzak of classical music. You may be familiar with it in movies and such, used to create moods.
Right. 4'11'. Would have to tiptoe to make 5'. Hard to find a shorter adult around here and most kids past ten start to gain on me. I call that short.
Don't ask about weight. Since I hurt my knee last March I have gained almost 10# and only lost 2 of them. Heaviest I have ever been. Sad. Didn't know how much I must have been moving around before. Too much sitting around now, posting.;-)
Jealous of those skinny people wandering around without a care. Hope to lose it when the spring work starts again in February, after the Dr's ok on the knee in the coming January visit (or even without his approval).
Wondering how WHW is getting along after the accident. I bet that he is feeling a little sore, if not outright hurt.
I wish someone would let us know more. Worrysome news. I hope that his luck is all good from now on.
Vivaldi is the background Muzak of classical music. You may be familiar with it in movies and such, used to create moods.
Can you put a theme or works to the name...
Right. 4'11'. Would have to tiptoe to make 5'. Hard to find a shorter adult around here and most kids past ten start to gain on me.
Yer taller than my sister... Her and 2" heels would put you two at eye level.
Since I hurt my knee last March...
Most be some thing going around. Did the same earlier this year. You, no doupt, caught some of the threads about some of the other BT'ers and some things that have happened with them.
Jealous of those skinny people wandering around without a care.
Blame it on CRS. You forgot that you ate...
Dr's ok on the knee in the coming January visit (or even without his approval).
This sounds familar to just about every one here....LOL....
Wondering how WHW is getting along after the accident. I bet that he is feeling a little sore, if not outright hurt.
No doupt about that one either. His BIL's phone # is posted, but at what point would he be getting tired of fielding questions about Wet Head and put his phone on ignore...
I wish someone would let us know more. Worrysome news. I hope that his luck is all good from now on.
That would be nice.
There is some good news, RW (RW will hit the roof) is fine and he has had a radical improvement over the old RW.
The day started out beautiful. Little cold perhaps. So much for that plan. Got a repeat of a few days ago. This time it's an Albuquerque Low. Batten the hatches down and head for cover. Another few days of twiddling my thumbs coming up. Now I can catch up on a few other things.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"Can you put a theme or works to the name..."---
Hard to with background music; fuzzy violins and such. Does "The four seasons" ring a bell? (Wrong instrument, but...).
---"Yer taller than my sister... Her and 2" heels would put you two at eye level."---
Well, that will be two of us "shorty's". Don't you dare agree. During the CB craze I went by "Little Tornado", named such by an elderly neighbor I helped finish his fields when he got behind.;-)
---"You forgot that you ate..."---
Not that much, honest! If we raised people for their ability to put weight with little food, "easy keepers", like we do cattle and turkeys, I would be right up front. On second thought, that would not be so good a brag right at turkey day.
---" RW (RW will hit the roof) is fine and he has had a radical improvement over the old RW."---
Does he glow? Glad for him. Tell him to keep it up.
We were 10F Monday AM, first day to break ice for the stock this year. Has been better since. All we had from that storm was wind, no snow.
Hunting season started on deer. Many are in the hay barn, hiding. Three big bucks with them. I hope we find their antlers when they lose them next spring, if the coyotes and porcupines don't beat us to them. They have grown some mighty impressive sets this year.
Beautiful today and will be all weekend.
I hope that everyone's weekend is a good one.
During the CB craze I went by "Little Tornado"
As fiesty as my sister was because of her size... I'd believe that in a heart beat. Call that Gospel...
Does he glow? Glad for him. Tell him to keep it up.
You didn't catch the thread????
We were 10F Monday AM, first day to break ice for the stock this year. Has been better since. All we had from that storm was wind, no snow.
Webbed the weather report. Somebody isn't being straight here. It's either my senses or the weather man. Cold and snow.
Hunting season started on deer. Many are in the hay barn, hiding. Three big bucks with them. I hope we find their antlers when they lose them next spring, if the coyotes and porcupines don't beat us to them. They have grown some mighty impressive sets this year.
They're not fools. Outta the weather and plenty grub.
Oreo (my dog) was helping Connor (neighbor Tommy's dog) move cattle. A friend of Tommy's asked me why my other dog Bosco wasn't helping and if it did.......
I say "It's a sheep dog"
She says "So"
I say "It can tell the diverence"
She never caught it.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Edited 11/26/2003 7:40:07 PM ET by IMERC
---"You didn't catch the thread????"---
No. I hope that it was good news. Didn't meant to tease if not.
I tend to get people confused at times...
Did I stick my foot in in my mouth? If so, will make amends.:-(
Do tell!
I was editing the post as you were repying.
There's more up there.
Here the one for RW. 36300.1
That's why we brush isn't it. Keep the toe jam in Check.
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Thanks for the link. Hoping all goes well for him.
So teel yourself... Okay
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"..."It can tell the diverence""---
So could my border collie, except that she was a little nuts, would herd anything that moved. Once, when she was 4 1/2 months old, herded a very surprised roadrunner that finally had to fly off. She was best on cattle, did any other herding because it was there to do.
We have cowdog and sheepdog trials here and some dogs do both and some only one or the other. Her mother would only work cattle (and horses when she got loose, not a safe situation) and her father was littermate to the Lone Star Cattle Dog Futurity winner and would work anything, even buffalo. That was not so pretty. Buffalo will run a dog thru. Dogs have to get very aggressive.
I assume Oreo is a black/white? Maybe a bc? What is Bosco?
Looks like we are keeping this thread going well with all kinds of stories.:-)
Bosco is brown and white Aussie. Named after Bosco the chocolate drink. If it ain't sheep don't bother me.
Oreo is a black and white border. She will herd any thing. Even pretty good at rabbits and horses.
Then there is....
Doc (Hienz 57)
Wylie (Black Lab)
Yose Mite (Bobcat)
DD (Malamute)
Crusier (Border)
Zena (Border)
Clyde (Mtn Lion)
All these guys are rescues
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
What a list of "pets". Here the wildlife is wild, the kind you can't pet and will eat you if you are not careful.
I had a great aussie that was a rescue at one year old. She was totally unsocialized, had been kept in a kennel and was scared of everything. Came out of it, was tough on bulls and gentle with calves and made the best therapy dog for nursing home and hospital visits. A true love sponge. Still miss her after all these years.
Good that you have the energy to handle that many critters around underfoot.
I help at the local shelter. There, they are adopted or reclaimed in three days or euthanized to make room for more. 30 to 100 a day. Beyond sad.
City people dump animals out here all the time. We some how manage to find each other.
Some of the guys are no longer here. 4 were shot by some body for what must have been entertainment in front of the house. 2 father time took. Just the same I think of them as still with me.
It's so sad that when I find some of them they are beyond hope.
You can tell who has had a rough life or been abused. We manage though. Bosco is the only one I took away from some one. This jerk was beating Bosco some thing fierce. Put a stop to that. I got in the guys face and leaned hard. Couldn't get him to lift a finger at me. That clown was a true wimp.
Oh yes there's Skipper, Golden lad the color of peanut butter.
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Have seen plenty of abuse with horses and especially cattle, much unintended, by ignorant people.
Can't say anything most times, have to keep the peace, but it is hard...
There are many people that get a puppy, don't train it and then, when it is a teenager and unruly, dump it and guess what, soon get another puppy, that of course follows the same pattern.
Why do they think that repeating the same will give different results?
I take my buds every where. Even have "working dog" vest for them.
People see how these dogs behave and ask how do you do it. The dog is so well behaved. I wish mine was that good.
Well... Train it. Don't leave it in a kennell all it's life. Give a damn and earn it's trust.
CAG and Hasbeen have met Oreo. Ask their opinion of Oreo's disposistion and nature.
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Interested?http://dayton.craigslist.org/pet/1319759856.html
no fence...
that would be greatto...
wunder about the tires easily...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
That's unusual, maybe he doesn't get enough exercise. My part aussie mutt is super energetic.
Oreo2 a 15+YO is still some what energetic...
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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
A fence is nothing to my dog. I had to put a top on her 6' tall kennel because the first time I put her in it she just hopped out.
no fenches or kennels here...
no chain ups either...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
The way it should be. Unfortunately, not possible here.
sorry to hear that..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
I wonder if Toby might have heartworm. That's a sign when it's advanced.
thought the same...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Is there a way to teach my new 9-10mo old (?) border collie to stop digging?
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let me know if you find something that works...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
if there's a favorite place that she digs and redigs, lay down a length of wire fencing on the grass. She'll get tired of that area before too long. Find her a nice place where she can dig easily like a pile of sand under a shady tree.
Walk her everyday. And play catch a lot. Just a thought. Sounds like she's bored.
"All he wanted was some beer. And they shot him in the face." Wilma to Two Puff Johnny on a train bound for CrazyLegs Fest.
Well, I think she gets pretty good exercise. 16yo DD takes her for a 1-1/2 mile run every morning (the dog only has to trot to keep up). Then she goes for a 2-1/2+ mile bike ride, so she actually runs the entire time. Then she has morning play time where she ends up tearing around our huge yard at top speed, (great fun to watch!)
She sleeps most of the afternoon, and then we have another play/roughousing bout in the evening. She sleeps well at night.
I think it must be the gophers/moles, and I think she thinks that she is just trying to do her duty to help. Gonna have to call the worm farm folks and see if they can send their guy with the gopher/mole cannon over. Gee, that thing is so loud!
Work for the greatest vital intensity - the greatest solidity and aesthetic reality. Finally, eleminate everything non-essential. Reduce to the absolute essence. ~ F.C. Trucksess
Heck yea that's the way to do it. It was just an idea anyway. I got nothing for you. My dogs never been much of a digger.
"All he wanted was some beer. And they shot him in the face." Wilma to Two Puff Johnny on a train bound for CrazyLegs Fest.
Put her poo back in the hole and cover it up. She won't dig there again, then repeat on the next place she digs.My guys finally figured out wherever they dig is gonna have poo there and quit digging.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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See, I'd heard that if you put poo back in their holes it would help, and heaven knows, I have an endless supply of that... Who knows? Maybe it will send the gophers and moles on their way too.
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dang, must be puter malfunction.
I clink on this ancient thread about wetheadwarrior and come into a conversationabout dogs.
whatzat about now?
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DocA shortcut is the longest distance between two points.
No gets...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Sorry MERC, just catching up from your post a couple of days ago and saying I try not to miss BB's Monday morning spot here in Amarillo.A shortcut is the longest distance between two points.
I'm in central Colorado.
I was thru Amerillo twice in the last month or so.
Thanks for the links. After a bit I do some reading.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Ruby, since we're neighbors and all, could I jump in with a couple of Panhandle links for IMERC?
Little did y'all know, when you were driving through here and cursing our wind swept Plains that this is less than 20 miles off I-40: http://www.palodurocanyon.com/
Bombs: http://www.pantex.com/
History:http://www.mcstx.com/markers.html
Ever here of Kit Carson, Indian Chief Quanah Parker or legendary sharpshooter Billy Dixon? http://www.oldwestlibrary.com/OWL/adobewalls.htm
Bet you've seen this before: http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/cadillacranch/ranch/crabtr.htm
Legendary Steak - betcha can't eat one: http://www.bigtexan.com/72oz.html
WHW, next time you're through here, ya got friends!
DocA shortcut is the longest distance between two points.
TX Panhandle weather! Was 60F yesterday, is snowing this AM, ground white, little wind, will be a beautiful snow.
Cadillac Ranch. A Stanley Marsh production.
It is in my way to town and always has someone parked there, taking pictures.
Odd, what will attract people.
I happen to think that I could eat that 72 oz steak, if I didn't have to eat the potato etc. too. ;-)
This WHW thread seems surreal. Wonder what he will think when he finally get's to read it?
Edited 11/27/2003 8:26:31 AM ET by Ruby
Ruby, Yeah, good ol' Stanley Marsh 3. The same guy who brought us all the goofy signs around town in everybody's yard, and let's not forget him locking up his teenage friends in the chicken coops.
Hey, how far out of Amarillo are you? You did say to the west, right? Per MERC's question, I'm sure the entire Panhandle is considered the Great Plains, high desert would probably be way SW, El Paso, etc.A shortcut is the longest distance between two points.
I am on the ranchland country between Boys Ranch and I-40. Capitol lands. Lands that were sold in the 1800's to the builders of the Tx state Capitol building and the railroad that put the lines thru here, as part payment for that work.
They then sold those lands to settlers.
Doc.... Went to the sites you suggested to day.
Good read. Thanks...
Canyon Wall and Palo Duro were really good..
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
This part of the TX panhandle is fairly flat.
The canyons are cuts into that flat surface by water and ice many millennia ago.
The reverse of the mountains, that emerged by being pushed up from the flat.
Add to those features a semi-arid climate with little rain and much wind and so few trees and to some people it seems desolated and others love it.
Did you get to see the "Cadillac Ranch"? They buried in a field by I-40 some 8 cars, up to the windshield, with the fins up in the air. Goofy.:-)
with the fins up in the air. Goofy.:-)
I'll say.
You in high plains or high mountain desert for the most part?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
We are in the "high plains", short grass country, semi-arid, lots of cacti, at some 4000' above sea level. High enough for hot days and cold nights and very dry.
Rarely humidity over 15-20%. Lizard weather.
Despite the trees this area around here is considered to be high mountain desert. 8,000 to 12,000 feet. I'm at the average point.
Lot's of cactus but no snakes. Never even heard of one being found up here.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Snakes are coldblooded. If you find one there, you can use it for a walking stick, it will be so stiff.;-)
Except for snow snakes. They must have antifreeze for blood
---"Except for snow snakes. They must have antifreeze for blood"---
How interesting. Tell us more. I am glad our rattlers at least go hide when is cold.
Wet Head Warrior will have an indigestion if he tries to read this whole thread at once when he comes on line.;-)
I would tell you more but it is hard to talk with my tongue in my cheek
Was afraid of that. Need some snipe oil to help it get unstuck?;-)
I'll trade you some snow snake oil for some snipe oil. Deal?
As for price, heads for me and double or nothing ok?
Are you suggesting better living through chemistry for AC?
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
heh heh
I think he's already there and don't need no suggestions.
well I may not be a great speller but I also know what lysergic sodium dylithimide 25 is as well......I've even tested it a few times ; )~
Be conscious
andyMy life is my practice!
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Be conscious
W sure about this
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
I'm sure about nothing except that I'm sure about nothin'My life is my practice!
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I already know all that stuff @@@@^%#$$%&!!#$! :)My life is my practice!
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So whats going on in here? I leave for the night and Rez is posting the compounding of pharmicuticals. You guys got a lab goin' somewhere? Can I get in on the distribution end of this?
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Nope... No need.
Everything that didn't happened last night was Top Secret and didn't happen.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
IMERC
kinda cool in a way to have groopies...just wish it was a woman or an animal not some wannabe geek........geezzzzzz who'd wanna be a geek???.....lol
Be well peace
see ya in ski season I'm bettin'
andyMy life is my practice!
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hey groopie.
you decided what you wannabe yet?
Let me see, I think you said you were of a native american nationality.
And I understand that you're single again.
Think I got you covered here...
I have a logictech key board. I recommend it for it's reliablity.
It asorbs coffee, aggressive pounding, drool, spittle, facial collisions and lives a life of misery.
With attachments like that yur stressing this keyboard to the limits.
She's a might young wouldn't you say...
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
---"I leave for the night and Rez is posting the compounding of pharmicuticals"---
Compounding is illegal for anyone but a registered pharmacist, unless it is for your own use. We do it for our cattle medicine.
Even then, it is seen as controversial.
Then, that was not the kind of compounding you had in mind? More the kind that blows up occasionally?<g>
They just shut down such a lab north of here last week. Said it was doing about 1 million a month or so. We are in the wrong business, aren't we.
Years ago, I had a bag of cow antibiotics. Powder. I would fill double aught capsules with it, and take it myself. The stuff actualy worked.
Now I use goldenseal root powder. But I occassionaly think about looking for more of the bovine stuff.
Live, Love, Forgive and Forget
quittintime
---"Years ago, I had a bag of cow antibiotics. Powder. I would fill double aught capsules with it, and take it myself. The stuff actualy worked."---
Yep. That is "Polyotic", a tetracycline preparation for oral use in cattle.
Yep. Worked fine in people.;-)
---"Now I use goldenseal root powder"---
The trouble with herbs is that nature doesn't make them with predictable dosage in each ounce. You may get the necessary chemical you are after in something like goldenseal in all kinds of amounts. Thankfully, most times is at least not enough to be harmful or contaminated with other undesirable substances. Rarely is enough to be helpful. Touch and go way to medicate. Don't depend on it if really sick.
Even traditional medicine, where the dosage and conditions have been shown to have mostly predictable, consistent results, misses plenty of times in each individual because we just are not all the same or are not in a static biological state .
I bet you could make some real noise on a flat rock back then.(: )
Noise on a flat rock ?
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P'n
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
What you don't do a million a month? Charge more.
1 million pennies is 10k dollars. Another way to make yourself feel better while you feel like crap. I like to lie to myself, You? :<) :<) :<)
Curly
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Would I know it if I did?<G>
Zane Grey? I have a whole Harper 1938 edition, some 30-40+ books plus a few from 1910 or so.
Read them as a kid. Too much else now to read to go thru them again. Sure were VERY interesting as a kid, maybe I ought to make time?
Have fun and have wild dreams...
yer talkin bout Andy Caulphman , right?????My life is my practice!
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So when did the spelling for Clifford morph into Caulphman???
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
Andy Kaufman
OK so I spelled it wrong.My life is my practice!
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I've read your mastering of the graddificado craft.... You should talk or would... You should write fit a miight better.
Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....
yep
hit by a semi?
Damn he's sure had a run of crappy luck lately
I just wanted to make sure this thread remains current, as we all share a concern for one of our BT flock.
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