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   BillHartmann | May 21, 2002 07:46pm | #1

   Mark

   There are other options than those that you listed.

   And I am wonder what the purpose of the survey is for?

   If it is for compatibility purposes those are more often determined by the brower and not the operating system.

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   SYSOP | May 21, 2002 07:55pm | #2

   Bill,

   The main info I hope to gain from this poll is to determine the percentage of Mac users on our forums.  I was going to  poll with just the, are you a Mac or PC user? but I figured since I was gathering info I would find out who was using what OS.

   I will be polling in the near future on browsers also. Thanks for your feedback on this.

   Mark

   SYSOP

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   CloudHidden | May 21, 2002 07:59pm | #3

   I can guess that in part it's be/c some of us poor, down-trodden Mac users are having specific Prospero "issues" and knowing the mix helps prioritize addressing those issues. Then again I could be dead wrong and Mark's looking for clues on whether to buy stock in MSFT or APPL.

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   SYSOP | May 21, 2002 08:06pm | #4

   I don't think I will be buying stock in either right about know...SYSOP

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   BillHartmann | May 21, 2002 08:18pm | #5

   AFAIK there is no way for the server to know if you are running a Mac or no, nor does it care.

   There is a text string from the browser that does identify it and sometimes the operating system. However, that can be changed and it will not solve and problems.

   The client (broswer) communicates with ths server using HTML of different versions and with different extenstions to those standards. All servers impliment those standards differently or inacurately as them might and add them own extentions.

   Likewise the different broswers have their own interpretation of the standards and extentions.

   When the server sends a certain HTML commands it depends on where the browswer reconizes those commands or how it interprets as to whether the information is correctly displayed or not.

   That has nothing to do with the operating system that is running the browswer and even less with the processor hardware that is running the computer.

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   CloudHidden | May 21, 2002 10:33pm | #6

   Yeah, I know. But a chunk of us (the thread's in CooksTalk) are complaining about a specific bug that seems to affect primarily Mac and possibly just OSX users and is at best on a back burner. Now OSX is the latest and greatest, and has the latest and greatest version of IE, and works fast and perfectly on every other web site I've been to, and I spend about half my day rooting around other sites looking for products and info for the houses I'm designing. No one should be building hardware- or OS-specific sites these days, yet Prospero seems to have managed it, overachievers that they are. So a bit of research to see the number of people affected is a reasonable thing. Of course, what counts is what's done with the info. If it's used to identify and fashion a fix to a documented bug, then I for one am a happy camper. If it's used to say, sorry, there ain't enough of you to make it worth the time to research, so switch to another operating system because the Web is built for PC/IE anyway, then it's a little harder to not take it personally.

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   BillHartmann | May 21, 2002 11:13pm | #7

   I went and looked up that thread.

   And it is not just Mac users that are having those problems.

   I am see many of the same things. And I am not a mac user or a windos OS user.

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   CloudHidden | May 22, 2002 12:05am | #8

   Well cool. Or, well, not good that you're having problems, but the more who are the more likely it'll get attention and priority. Of course, you could switch to PC/IE and be problem-free, so maybe the problem is yours and not Prospero's! Ha ha ha.

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   darrel | Apr 09, 2004 06:54am | #11

   " Now OSX is the latest and greatest, and has the latest and greatest version of IE"

   Actually, it has a crappy old version of IE.

   Then again, all versions of IE are crappy.

   BTW, I'm on a Mac right now, and don't have any specific problems with Prospero forums, other than the horendous non-standard user interface.

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   IMERC | Apr 09, 2004 06:24am | #9

   Acually it's a server with Lineux and windows

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                           WOW!!!   What a Ride!
   

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   rez | Apr 09, 2004 07:51am | #14

   IMERC- what'r you doin' trolling way back there for a 'puter thread?

   "just nail that board up there!!!"

    

   "look, lady..."

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   IMERC | Apr 09, 2004 07:56am | #16

   I was using the search function and that poped up several times. I didn't notice the date till somebody pointed it out...

   I was getting sick of the thread on sizing copper pipe...

   At least it was something different...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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   darrel | Apr 09, 2004 06:51am | #10

   I clicked MacOSX, but I also use Windows XP and Mandrake Linux.

   I'm a geek.

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   JerraldHayes | Apr 09, 2004 07:04am | #12

   Wow, I just voted (Mac OSX of course) and I was sort of surprised with the results. Not by the ratio of Mac to PC users but by the ratio of OS X to OS 9 and earlier. 6 votes (7%) OSX and 6 votes (7%) OS 9 or earlier.

   I'm wondering why haven't the OS 9 and earlier users switched to OS X.

   I was actually going to ask that in a topic here since I develop applications in FileMaker and with the recent upgrade a month ago to FileMaker 7 will no longer support Mac OSs other than OSX. Since that means I'll no longer be working on developing programs that run on OS 9 or earlier I was wondering who was using OS 9 and why????

   I even just mentioned in another post I made earlier tonight that:

   "Since switching to OSX I had 19 months of trouble free service from my Mac with zero down time and the only maintenance I've ever had to perform was cleaning up and organizing files. The kind of mess I made of my own doing. I have not had one single system crash or virus."

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   BillHartmann | Apr 09, 2004 07:14am | #13

   ""Since switching to OSX I had 19 months of trouble "

   That thread is 2 years old. Maybe other people, like you, had not yet switched.

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   SYSOP | Apr 09, 2004 04:43pm | #18

   Jerrald,

   Not sure why this thread popped back to the surface but it is over 2 years old. Back then I suspect a lot of users where still in the OS9 world myself included but have now converted. I just finally got my home system upgraded to OSX and I love it. Had some issues with the change from 9-10 but got that all resolved now. Are you using .MAC? What do you think about it?SYSOP[email protected]

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   JerraldHayes | Apr 09, 2004 05:01pm | #19

   Wow, two years old! Geez, how did that thread pop up there? Well it is apropos in that I am wondering who uses OSX and who uses OS 9 and earlier.

   "Are you using .MAC?" Yes I do use it. I use it for a personal web site where I can share photos and writing with friends and other family but I also use it or should I say "we" (meaning other memebers of the family) also use it for exchanging calenders through iCal and I use iDisc so that where ever I am I can access key files from any computer that I might be on at the time. I think its great.

   So Mark you just made the switch? What took you so long?

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   Piffin | Apr 09, 2004 05:17pm | #20

   I've been on this Gateway with win 98 and an athlon 750 chip for about 3.5 years now. Just ordered myself a new machine ( local shop built) with Athlon 3000 and win XP pro. 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   xMikeSmith | Apr 10, 2004 03:14pm | #35

   so... CAd-man.... what did you order for a graphics card ?

   whenever we're getting ready to order a new machine  ( ever read "Soul of a New Machine" by Tracey Kidder... the same one who wrote "House" )..

    we go on line to our  Chief-user group.. find out what's hot and what's not...do you Softplan guys do the same thing ?Mike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Piffin | Apr 10, 2004 09:42pm | #36

   I just told the guy I didn't need anything especially hot for a graphics card since I'm not a gamer. The gist of the talk at Splash is that SP depends more on the chip and RAM for processing the information. Athlon usually gets better ratings for vector positioning than Pentium machines. SP doesn't do too much with fly throughs yet - more stop frame positioning of the camera.

   Hoping I did the right thing 

    

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   xMikeSmith | Apr 11, 2004 12:27am | #38

   i always rely on greater minds than mine.. that's why i love these user groups..so i don't have to keep reinventing the wheel....

   my power machine is a P4  , 512 MB ram, 2.0 Ghz,with a 64 MB GeForce Nvidia graphics card .....win XP Pro

   i'm bored... nothing really new and different enough to upgrade to  ... and this one is more than two years old.... but i don't see any great leaps forward for awhileMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   Piffin | Apr 11, 2004 01:13am | #39

   They are slowing the cycle for R&D 'till the economy catches up to them a bit, I think.

   Newest talk surronds the AMD athlon 64 bit processor. I could have got it but not many programs set up to take advantage of it yet. 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   WorkshopJon | Apr 12, 2004 04:43am | #50

   "ever read "Soul of a New Machine" by Tracey Kidder... the same one who wrote "House""

   Mike,

   Interesting bit of trivia.  That book was required reading for me in B-school.

   Tracey also wrote a book called "Hometown" a few years back that was a true story about two people who were best friends from childhood, and one is confronted with trying to be a friend, and at the same time, doing their job (as a cop).

   It is a true story that takes place in North Hampton MA, my moms childhood home and a place I spent many a summer as a child. My uncle  (2 years older than me) is one of the two main characters in the book, and I grew up knowing most of the people in it (the book).  It's opening chapter is about my moms family.

   When Tracy wrote the book, he had NO IDEA that my dad was one of his dad's former partners at the law firm in NY (Tracy is from LI NY)!  (His dad left my dad's firm in the 70's)  Another weird coincidence.

   My mom talked to Tracy at a book signing, and he was needless to say, shocked.

   Jon

   Edited 4/11/2004 9:45 pm ET by WorkshopJon

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   xMikeSmith | Apr 12, 2004 05:05am | #52

   interesting author.. and your insider knowledge brings us back to the "6 degrees of seperation" from all of us to each otherMike Smith   Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

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   WorkshopJon | Apr 12, 2004 05:24am | #53

   "your insider knowledge brings us back to the "6 degrees of separation" from all of us to each other"

   Mike,

   Sometimes it feels more like 1 or 2 degrees.   The stories I could tell.  Maybe another thread, another time.

   Jon

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   stonefever | Apr 09, 2004 10:40pm | #28

   Just got an Alienware custom machine for the wife (or at least that's how I sold her on the idea).

   Running Windows XP on it's AMD FX-51 chip, 2G of RAM, 2 37G 10k drives in a raid 0 for the system drive, 250 G data drive, etc., etc.  Had the ATI Radeon XT 9800 256MB video card put in to drive the HP L2335 LCD monitor.

   You's guys need to look at this monitor!!  1920x1280 resolution on a 23" screen.  You can get 2 full size browser windows open at the same time and still have real estate around the edges.  But get it from the HP small business online store - at least $200 to 300 cheaper than anywhere else.

   I got tired of waiting 5 minutes or more for the darn old machine to boot up.  This one takes all of about 15 seconds from turn on ready to go.

   I'm putting the old one in my new shop.  Wired the network cabling in while in construction.

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   WorkshopJon | Apr 09, 2004 10:50pm | #29

   Stone,

   Sounds like one cool set-up.  I hope it IS hooked up to some form of broadband.  I don't think many people realize how far computers have come since the days of PII's and dial-up, and 15" monitors running 800x600 rez.

   To those still running that combo, nite and day.......nite and day.

   Jon

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   IMERC | Apr 09, 2004 05:52pm | #22

   My fault...

   I guess this one replaced get the copper pipe size thread on search deal...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....                                        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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   pino | Apr 09, 2004 05:36pm | #21

   Just gotta say how surprised I am that there are so many Mac users here at Breaktime. As a full time creative director / part time home renovator, its nice to see such solid support for the Mac outside its bastion of acceptance. Sitting in my messy basement office surrounded by three Macs just got a little less lonely.

   Now, if I could only find as many fellow liberals as I do Mac users here...

   PS - Anyone running a 17" PB? I've been toying with getting one but am concerned they are just too big.

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   CloudHidden | Apr 09, 2004 06:40pm | #23

   >Anyone running a 17" PB?

   I use the 15" sitting on the bleachers watching my daughter at the gym. Not hurting for the 17, though I wouldn't turn it down if someone offered. My real drool machine is the 20" iMac. (It's dome shaped...duh.) Still have my 1985 Mac Plus, and it still works at 19 years old. 19! That's the machine on which I started developing my product, so I have a special fondness for it.

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   scottyb | Apr 09, 2004 07:36pm | #24

   Sony, pentium4, windowsXP, 19" sony trinitron, sbcyahoo dsl.

   Works for me.

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   WorkshopJon | Apr 09, 2004 08:56pm | #26

   "Still have my 1985 Mac Plus, and it still works at 19 years old. 19! That's the machine on which I started developing my product,"

   Cloud,

   Just a caveat.  I still have an '88 Epson 286-12 myself.  Great machine for its day. Lot's of stuff from college I'd love to retrieve off the HD drives.  Problem is, the replacement batteries for the clock leaked acid on the motherboard, so it won't boot anymore.

   So, if you have an old computer you have a fondness for, yank out the batteries, cause if you don't.............

   Jon

   BTW, Anybody out there have an old Epson 286 that works lying around they want to part with cheap?

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   JohnSprung | Apr 09, 2004 10:02pm | #27

   I have a whole stack of the original IBM PC's, 8088 with 640k of RAM.  Some day they'll be the Model T of computing.

   -- J.S.

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   remodelerdw | Apr 11, 2004 03:47am | #45

    

   >I have a whole stack of the original IBM PC's, 8088 with 640k of RAM

   I'd ask to buy one from you, but I haven't made the jump to 16 bit yet.  Still on my S-100 Zilog Z80 CP/M with 64k DRAM and an 8" floppy drive.  It was pretty nice on the BBS's until they went away. 

   Okay I have a geek side.  That's why I got a bunch of tattoos on my arms, to cover it up on the job site.

   I've always wanted one of those old TRS-80's.  They were pretty kicking in the day.  about $9k as I remember from Tandy.  And a dual-floppy disk model!

   remodeler

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   Jeff | Apr 11, 2004 01:53am | #40

   I still have an old Apple II that still works fine from 1979.

   Actually, works better then my new HP and Dell.

   Jeff

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   Piffin | Apr 11, 2004 01:59am | #41

   From some of what I've heard, almopst anything works better than the newest HPs since they married up with Compaq 

    

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   stonefever | Apr 11, 2004 02:31am | #42

   I've heard that a number of improvements and upgrades are coming late this year and early next.

   Intel's embracing 64 bit technology will bring a slew of upgraded softare.  A new form of memory replacing the current DDR2 standard.  10K hard drives will increase speed. 

   And with these fancy video and sound cards coupled with ultra high definition flat panels acting as both TVs and computer monitors, wireless signaling as well as networking means they are steering the new generation of PC's into the living room.  That computer probably will handle all home processing and interworking with these other devices.  Our office computers most likely will simply be another monitor with a keyboard.  Kinda like the old mainframes used to do...

   But that changed too...

   Who the heck knows?

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   Jeff | Apr 11, 2004 02:35am | #43

   Hi Piffin

   Actually, the HP is about 2 years old.

   Still, it's junk.

   Most of the problems I have are software related.

   I really hate Microsoft's software.

   jeff

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   kostello | Apr 12, 2004 09:28pm | #54

   ""Actually, works better then my new HP and Dell.""

   i can well beleive it.

   i've had 2 PCs both useless.

   i've promised myself an aplle next time. just witing for the pc to die.

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   Piffin | Apr 13, 2004 01:01am | #55

   Well, guys, I see a few big boxes in the shop UPS area. Don't feel up to it tomight but soon as I feel like rearranging the furniture in here, you might not hear from me for a few days. 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   Jeff | Apr 13, 2004 01:29am | #56

   Enjoy

   Jeff

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   darrel | Apr 10, 2004 01:31am | #30

   Pino...have you been to the apple store yet? The 17"ers are definitely HUGE. They're not really laptops as much as portable desktop computers. (if that makes sense).

   I'm using an older 15" right now. I think my next one might be the 12" actually, as it is truly a portable computer.

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   pino | Apr 10, 2004 05:43am | #31

   "Pino...have you been to the apple store yet?"

   Yes I have, the one in Chicago.

   The 17" ers are monsters to be sure. But given my line of work - graphic design & video production - that big baby might serve me well. In my biz, increased screen size is always a plus. Of course, if it doesn't fit in my knapsack then I have got a big problem 'cause I'm not getting a briefcase.

   Typically my laptop sets up on location with a client, not on a plane. I think the increased size would not become a problem. Too bad they won't let me take one out for a test drive.

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   darrel | Apr 10, 2004 06:25am | #32

   I'm a graphic designer too, and do love lots of screen, but, of course, the great thing about the Powerbooks is that you can hook them up to another monitor and get two screens going side-by-side.

   Like you said though, whipping out the 17"er in front of a client certainly looks impressive. ;o)

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   Dinosaur | Apr 10, 2004 06:56am | #33

    I fractured the hard drive on my old Compaq laptop by placing it rather emphatically on the table one day while I was experiencing a particularly high degree of two-channel domestic stereo bitching. So I replaced it with a Compaq Presario 6000 series; Pentium 4 w/a gazillion gig of memory or so it seems to me, lol.

   Don't do much but WP, store my pix, billing, e-mail, and BT with it. Oh, yeah--and ACAD. Fergot that one; it's been a long winter. Just finished skiing today, actually. Two weeks vacation and then back to the drawing board, heh, heh, heh.

   You still interested in our hardware? I just voted. Didn't notice the date either till I got near the end of the thread. ROFLMAO....

   Dinosaur

   'Y-a-tu de la justice dans ce maudit monde?

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   talkingdog | Apr 10, 2004 08:17am | #34

   On my network I've got a couple of workstations running

   OSX 10.3, a Debian Woody web server in the closet, a Sony VAIO

   that I mainly use for ripping TV shows and streaming them

   over the network, and a SONY Network Media Receiver hooked

   to the TV (which makes the TV sort of a Linux box).

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   andybuildz | Apr 10, 2004 10:45pm | #37

   Dog

          Just scored me the same puter......I really love it.

   Any advice or tips? I'm pretty puter illiterate.

   Be illiterate

                      andyMy life is my passion!

   http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   talkingdog | Apr 11, 2004 03:09am | #44

   Which? OSX, Debian or VAIO? 'Puter illiteracy

   is a sort of bliss.

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   ANDYBUILD | Apr 11, 2004 04:42pm | #46

   Vaio"My life is my practice"

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   talkingdog | Apr 11, 2004 08:08pm | #47

   Well, I can tell you that the VAIO is pretty good for

   use as a TiVO type device, and if you get the other

   accessories and networking gear it makes a decent media

   server for the household.

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   ANDYBUILD | Apr 11, 2004 09:32pm | #48

   Dog.....thats one of the reasons I bought it.

   Thanks and

                          Be well

                                          andy"My life is my practice"

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   Sphere | Apr 12, 2004 04:11am | #49

   Andy, i have the new VIAO also..checkout how much memory is allocated to the gigga drive for tv..awesome.

   Man, it's a lot of computer for the bucks..I love it..if I could only get the wife off it so I could play..for now it's a Toshiba Lap top that we got at the same time..

   happy viaoing..

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    talkingdog | Apr 12, 2004 04:57am | #51

    Yep. My VAIO shipped with only 256 megs of memory,

    and it's woefully inadequate. Performancewise I

    have been more than a little underwhelmed by my

    PCV-V10.

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    ANDYBUILD | Apr 13, 2004 10:58pm | #57

    Sphere

                 What accesories did you and Dog get for your Vaio's?

    I haven't gotten any and still love it.

    What am I missing out on?????????

    Be a puter illiterate

                                      ----> andy"My life is my practice"

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    Sphere | Apr 14, 2004 12:53am | #58

    Andy..I did not get anything out of the ordinary..'cept the 19" LCD flat monitor..I immediatly realized the Sony speakers REALLY sucked..I hooked up my Boston Acoustics from my old Gateway..but they are not connected to a digital out put..just the analog that the sound card has...funny a Gateway from 1997 had digital audio out put, and the new SOny is analog..

    We had just sold the house in NC and had a bit of spare change..(notice I said HAD..not Do), so I got the Sony Cybershot Digi Camera and the newest HP scanner/printer/copier..The Toshiba Satellite lap top and the wireless router...all in all the whole thing was in the under five grand range..I really shopped hard, and knew what I wanted.

    The Viao is great, I like all rthe drive letters..man it's wierd seeing drive letter 'J'...the smartstick port is handy..I pop it in from the camera and dump its contents..then If I want to post to BT from the laptop all I do is get it from the Viao and Irfanview it while the wifes busy playin with her stuff..she pretty much commands the Viao..LOL

    You did get the remote control for the Tivo type stuff? set it to record yer favorite episode of Sesame street..? we only have two TV stations till I get the dish up..snowy and fuzzy..dish next week..No cable here or DSL..might not get as much work done with real TV available..almost  a good thing that we don't have TV..not much to miss, 'cept the weather channel..

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    caseyr | Apr 14, 2004 02:05am | #59

    I still have my old Mac II as well as a PC-XT.  I also have a couple of Timex Sinclair 1000's, if anyone needs one of those...  Also have an old Northstar Horizon but it is only a floppy based machine (5 1/4) and I don't know if the disks for the S100 operating system are still readable after 20+ years. 

    Ran across some history:

    Apple II - 1977 - speed: 1Mhz, memory: 4Kb, cost: $3,900

    Commodore PET - 1977 - speed 1Mhz, memory 4Kb, cost $1,500

    IBM PC - 1981 - speed: 4.77Mhz, memory: 16KB, cost: $6069

    Timex Sinclair - 1982 - speed 3.25Mhz, memory 2Kb, cost: $202

    Commodore 64 - 1982 - speed 1Mhz, memory 64K, cost $1,132

    Apple Lisa - 1983 - speed 5Mhz, mem 1mb, cost $18,400 - first GUI interface & mouse

    Apple Macintosh - 1984 - speed 8Mhz, memory 128kb, cost: $4,400

    Compaq Deskpro - 1984 - speed 16Mhz, memory 1Mb, cost $13,200

    Don't recall when the Radio Shack TRS-80 (commonly known as Trash 80) came on the market. 

    Ah... they just don't build them like they used to...

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    andybuildz | Apr 15, 2004 02:59pm | #60

    Sphere

             Thank god we have cable although that ain't cheap. About $40 a month but I use the puter and TV for it as well as a phone line for $35 a month with unlimitted calls nation wide and Canada....nice huh?

    I also bout the router and do have the remote.....been recording Judge Judy every day....lol.

    I'll have to figure out what you mean on the technique to use my dig camera which is currently being fixed.

    Be Tivo

                   andy

    My life is my passion!

    http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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    andybuildz | Apr 15, 2004 03:00pm | #61

    and oh yeh, the speakers mine came with suck too.....I'll be buying new ones asap....and I upgraded to a 17" flat liquid screen.My life is my passion!

    http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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    Sphere | Apr 15, 2004 03:08pm | #62

    I forgot to add that we got the wireless mouse and keyboard too..

    with your wireless router, you can network a laptop to the Vaio..so from another room or outside you can access it's harddrive..and send print commands..no need for ethernet or firewire cables..handy sometimes..

    good luck with the camera repair..

    Be unwired..

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    andybuildz | Apr 15, 2004 04:15pm | #63

    Yep we have the wireless router connecting the Gateway puter to this one.

    I had a wireless mouse from the last one so we that instead of the one it came with. I wish "everything" was wireless. Someday.

    The camera I bought about 13 months ago went in the $800 range and I picked it up new for less than 5.

    Warentee was for 12 months....go figure. On line Olympus wrote me and said to fix it it'd be $188 plus tax..grrr@#%$%$#

    DW took it in personally and they still honored my warentee....   :) go Olympus!!

    Be well

    or as we say here this April

    Be way wet and cold....ughhhh

    or

    Be movin to California when Jolie goes to college in 3 1/2 years  : )

    andyMy life is my passion!

    http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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    talkingdog | Apr 15, 2004 04:42pm | #64

    As for my VAIO--I got it mainly for watching TV in the kitchen,

    and it is parked on the kitchen table. It's connected to the

    home network, the satellite tuner, and the TV antenna. Mine is

    the PCV-V10 series, all-in-one type, so I didn't get any accessories.

    We mostly use it with the remote control, not the keyboard.

    I use Macs for my serious work, and would have got an iMac for

    this purpose, too, if they interoperated with my satellite tuner

    and TV the way the VAIO does. But unfortunately not. On the bright

    side, iTunes is available for it, so I can use the shared music

    library from my Mac workstation over the network.

    As for peripherals, I must confess to being a little shocked at

    how poorly the VAIO actually deals with digital devices. I

    expected it to be as easy as with the Mac--just plug it in and

    it works. But no! I plug in my Sony video camera and nothing happens.

    I reboot, and the VAIO tells me it has detected a digital device

    for which it has no drivers, and then some other screens full of

    MS gobbledygook. I was aghast. I plug in the digital camera

    and there is no response. Scanner, well I download the drivers

    from Epson, unpack them and find that I have something that looks

    like a MSDos batch file--eek, where is the command line on XP?

    OTOH, with Panther I plug in the scanner and a screen immediately

    pops up correctly identifying the scanner and asking me if I want

    to start scanning (this is something new--earlier versions of

    OSX did not have plug and play this good). This is how it should be.

    And there is more. I bought the VAIO because of the IR receiver doodad,

    which I need to be able to communicate with the satellite tuner.

    VAIO is the only brand that can access my service. I am supposed

    to place the AV mouse from the tuner on top of the IR doodad, and

    that way they are supposed to communicate. (can't figure out

    why they couldn't engineer these things to directly interoperate

    by USB or 1394, but hey). Except my machine has no IR doodad, it's

    a little eye built into the edge of the screen. After much searching

    in the manual, on the website, jawboning the salesmen in the stores,

    finally I get a guy at SONY who explains that I am supposed to tape

    or glue or somehow fasten the unsightly IR mouse and wire to the

    side of the the frame of my nicely designed, very pretty little computer

    --with duct tape, I suppose. So much for the vaunted SONY engineering.

    As I write this, recalling all the annoyances of the VAIO, I am

    almost hyperventilating. I need to go outside or something.

    Edited 4/15/2004 9:44 am ET by Talking Dog

19. 
    andybuildz | Apr 15, 2004 05:26pm | #65

    Dog

           HAve you called Sony?

    Mine works fantastic in all respects and I love it.

    Maybe they might have some tips for you.

    I think you should talk to Sphere because he also is working off of satilite and is a bit more computer savy than I am.

    Give him a shout here.

    Be in meditation mode Dog.......lol

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20. 
    talkingdog | Apr 15, 2004 06:37pm | #66

    Nothing SONY's telephone support can do to fix basic

    engineering inadequacies. Yes, I need some sort of

    meditation.

    OTOH, I have to say that XP has not crashed once,

    which is much better than the OSX machines. In both

    cases, though, I have had fewer maintenance worries

    and have been spending a lot less time fixing computer

    problems (one of my jobs for our little company is

    computer support) than I used to. Been a while since

    I had one of those lost weekends.

5. 
   DavidThomas | Apr 09, 2004 07:54am | #15

   A 1998 Dell PC Desktop that keeps getting slower and slower.

   David Thomas   Overlooking Cook Inlet in Kenai, Alaska
6. 
   glatt | Apr 09, 2004 04:40pm | #17

   Mac OS 8.6 at home (So that's how I voted.)

   Windows 2000 Pro at work. 

   I visit this page a little more often from work.

7. 
   kostello | Apr 09, 2004 08:09pm | #25

   i hate the stupid thing.

   of all the things in my life its the thing i swear at the most by a big margin