I met a new client yesterday about a kitchen remodel and he was showing me the existing plumbing system he had and mentioned ( I suppose ) an underground pump sort of thing and referred to it as a “grinder”. I imagine it’s just another, perhaps regional , name for a sewer pump. Can anybody weigh in on this?
BjR
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It grinds up the solids into something that can be easily pumped. Or if you're in New England is a submarine sammich.
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Or if you're in New England is a submarine sammich
Funny you said that because when I lived in Cape Cod back in 1984, the first time I asked for a 1/2 sub, they started laughung at me. They called them, "Grinda's". They did not pronounce the R's.
Joe Carola
Some of the more powerful sump pumps are called grinders because they will pump out solids
Here is a grinder pump from a website I was just looking at
http://www.bjmpumps.com/seriesinfo.asp?modelID=G
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It's a Boston immitation of a hoagie.
It's a Boston immitation of a hoagie.
Actually, it's more of a Western Massachusetts term. Growing up in and around Boston, they were called subs, but when I went to school in Western Mass, I heard the term grinder for the first time.
When I lived in Worcester in the late 70's they were called grinders."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Grew up south of Philadelphia in Delaware, we had subs, submarines or hoagies depending on where you went or talked to.
I first encountered the term "grinder" in Rochester, NY in the early 70's. Have been under the impression that to qualify as a grinder - the sandwich is served hot. True? False?
Went into a place and asked for a sub -- they said, we only have grinders -- OK -- watched the guy make it - looked sub-like to me -- I stopped him at the last second before my sub went into a pizza oven for conversion into a grinder.
He thought I was nuts, the feeling was mutual.
Jim
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From Wikipedia:The hoagie is a term for a lunch sandwich in a region including Philadelphia, southern New Jersey, Delaware, and sometimes parts of New York, although the term is frequently used on menus elsewhere. They are also known colloquially, depending on area as a sub (short for submarine) or a hero.A hoagie generally consists of an elongated roll (called a "hoagie roll", similar in shape to a short baguette), and a selection of cold luncheon meats and condiments: cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, sweet or hot peppers, oregano, and either olive oil or mayonnaise. In Philadelphia, toasted hoagies are known as 'grinders'. In Pittsburgh it's simply a "toasted hoagie".Another classic hoagie is the meatball variety. A meatball hoagie consists of meatballs, marinara sauce, and cheese with the possibility of peppers.More at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoagie
I recall, reading on a menu or on the wall in a "ZERO" deli , that they invented the "grinder". It came about from the ship worker's in the VA Beach or Norfolk area. The ship worker's where called grinders from NewPort News ship yard or one of the other close by military bases. They grinded all day long and came into the shop very hungry....... Large hot sanmmich...became GRINDER.
I think TGNY will back me on this one,
In the Big Apple they call it a Meatball Wedge!
Grinders are absolutely Rhode Island.
Whats a Cabinet?? aka "Milkshake", cause in little Rhody a milkshake is just shook milk and syrup, add ice cream and you gets yerself a Cabinet, Kabinet, or is it Cabinett ?
Maybe Mike Smith could chime in on more RI specifics.?
add ice cream and you gets yerself a Cabinet, Kabinet, or is it Cabinett ?
In Boston, milk, syrup and ice cream is a frappe.
And how do you pronounce frappe? Like frap? Or frap-ay? Or frap-ee?"Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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And how do you pronounce frappe?
Frap.
Could he mean a garbage grinder?
The typical residential garbage disposal has "hammers" in it that pulverize the garbage so it will flow down the sewer line. I've heard some people refer to it as a garbage grinder.
A garbage grinder actually has blades that chop stuff up so it can flow. AFIK, a garbage grinder is usually only found in commercial applications such as restaurants.
Yeah, to clarify, it's a sump for sewage, sometimes called an "ejection pump" or "sewage ejector".
"Yeah, to clarify, it's a sump for sewage, sometimes called an "ejection pump" or "sewage ejector"."
There we go. Thats the term I was thinking he was ment.
Thanks
BjR
just to add to the confusion, i have friend that has a septic tank,he calls aireated [?]. once every 30 mins. or so it stirs up the goo,could that be what he's talking about? sewer ejection works similar to a garbage disposal,but less fun to work on..... larryif a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
What DanH said. Usually used when the public sewer is higher than the house drain outlet.
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
Mascerator... chews it up and spits it out.
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A macerator grinds stuff up, but does not pump it to any extent. Macerators have to work in conjunction with a pump, they don't develop any significant amount of head.
A grinder pump is a specific type of sewage pump. A typical sewage pump will pump solids, some up to 2 or 3" dia (actually, in my day to day world, up to 10" dia)...a grinder pump is designed that it will actually grind up the solids so that it is easier to pump.
If this link works,you'll find one here:
http://www.goulds.com/product.asp?ID=163&MASTERID=4
In the original English this piece of equipment is known as a 'mascerator'. In sewage systems the mascerator accepts raw sewage and feeds the liquid output into pumps which lift the output into an outfall line.
I built a pumping station below sea level - nice job.
Lapun.
We have "grinder pumps". But it is a forced main system.Each house has a holding tank with a grinder pump. The inturn feeds a 1 1/2" line to the road.IIRC that is a 3" main. About 1 3/4 miles long. It is not gravity flow. But as each pump pumps into it it pushes a slug farther down the line..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Bill,
Thanks for the correction. I can see the logic in the 'forced line' concept. I have always worked with the gravity collection system - but in most instances there is a holding tank and pumping facility which lifts the sewage via a trunk sewer to a treatment works/ outfall.Some very fancy footwork on levels takes place both in planning and on site to satisfy this technology. And, of course, pumps do fail, and Murphy makes sure that that happens either or when it is seriously raining, or a public holiday - or both.I grew up in a plumbing family, and eventually went into construction and site management. We could probably exchange some interesting experiences.Lapun.
"And, of course, pumps do fail, and Murphy makes sure that that happens either or when it is seriously raining, or a public holiday - or both."
Our house had an undisclosed grinder pump buried in the yard when we bought it. A month after we moved in, on a holiday, said pump failed - we only discovered its existence when the rooter guy got his equipment stuck, got a buddy to help him yank it out and came back with wires. As we stood perplexed in the yard, a neighbor wandered over and told us what was buried under the nice lawn. That cost us $3K to fix 9 years ago and we started saving then to remodel the plumbing so we could have the main floor of the house on the city sewer and just the basement on the pump. It took us 8 years to get the money, and we still took out a loan. But at least I can use the toilet in a power outage.