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   Danno | Jun 15, 2008 10:20pm | #1

   Sorry no one has responded. I'll give you what we cal a "bump" which is no answer, but keeps your discussion new and where others may see it and respond.

   I have no experience with what you are describing, but if you are taking the siding off anyway, I don't see the problem with installing windows with flanges. Use the self adhering flashing, working from the bottom up so everything overlaps to shed water and you should be fine. Like you, I am not a big fan of trusting in caulk.

   On thinking about this, I think I see your concern--there is no sheathing and so you would be nailing the flange into the edge of 1x's ? If so, couldn't you fit in some 2x material--how are the existing windows being held in?

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   Ted W. | Jun 15, 2008 10:32pm | #2

   I don't see why you couldn't use vinyl replacements. Replacements don't have the flange, while new construction windows do have the flange. However, it can be removed.

   But that said, since the replacemet unit simply fits into the existing widow frame after the sashes are removed, I don't see how the siding or timber frame, etc.. have anything to do with it.

   As far as flashing, casing and all that, can't really answer that without more details. If you could post a photo so we can see what your talking about, would be very helpful.

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   jjwalters | Jun 16, 2008 07:06pm | #3

   I don't quite understand what you're saying, but my cabin is board and batten and I used the regular Anderson window with a flange (inside wood/outside brown vinyl)

   Attach window to the ply sheeting.......flash if you need to.........apply board...apply window trim...apply batten even up and tight against window trim.

   The window ends up pretty close to being inset 5/8 or so overall...and that's kinda what I wanted..........but I think B&B only works with a fairly good overhang.

   I am one story 10x12 roof with absolutely no water problems, not sure that would be the case if I was 2 story and had lesser overhangs.

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   JeffCraw | Jun 16, 2008 08:03pm | #4

   I think I understand your concerns- my current project uses Andersens, and I've considered board and batten siding, but the window/door trim details concern me.  If you use any kind of a rainscreen (Homeslicker) or furring strips, your siding plus battens will be at least 1 3/4" from your sheathing.  As a result, your nice windows will be "inset" from the siding (Andersen 400 series exterior extends 1 5/16" from the flange).  It would seem that installing the windows with flange on the wrb (as usually done) would offer the most weather resistence, but you now end up with an inset window).  If you shim out your window, placing the flanges on the same plane as your boards, you (probably) have a less weather tight installation.

   Just some thoughts for others- wish I had an answer......

    

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   johnp | Jun 22, 2008 03:31am | #5

   Hi. Thanks everyone for your input. I forgot to mention I do not have any plywood sheathing. The ext wall is a prebuilt modular unit with a reg 2 by6 stud wall with styro foam insulation .The inside wall had drywall screwed on and the outside is a rain screen with 1 by6 horizontal nailers every 2 feet screwed thru the styro into the studs.( This modular wall was then spiked to the post and beam.) If I use a nailing fin it either attaches to the nailers or the 1 by10 vert board. What I want to do is minimize the width of the vinyl sash and jamb because with a 2 by 6 trim I do not want to have 10" of vinyl and trim an then a tiny piece of glass.I figured that a replacement window would be close to the original wood windows. I am not against making the windows smaller by making 1" rough frame set into the opening and shim it in or out to where I want it.

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   lettusbee | Jun 22, 2008 07:31am | #6

   Do you have a Milgard rep in your area?  Avoid the big box stores, find someone that knows the ins and outs of the Milgard Tuscany series.  They have enough options and configurations to solve every type of replacement window challenge I've come accross

   http://www.milgard.com/products/vinyl-windows/tech-resources.asp?tuscany-single-hung

   Photos would help immensely if You have them.

   Lettusbee

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   IMERC | Jun 22, 2008 08:14am | #7

   another vote for the Milguards... 

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