Replies

1. 
   calvin | Mar 20, 2004 05:04am | #1

   johnny, someone here quite a while back mentioned they had talked Marvin into selling them just their jamb liners.  Trimmed down a bit of the old sash and had a heck of a finished window.  Might have been Mongo.  A search might work, but the thread was in pre prospero days.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

   Quittin' Time

2. 
   DanH | Mar 20, 2004 05:15am | #2

   There used to be spring balances available that would replace the weights. They were like a spring-return tape measure, and you set them into the top of the cavity, hooking the tape to the sash. Haven't seen or heard of them recently (like in the last 20 years), though.

3. 
   Piffin | Mar 20, 2004 05:18am | #3

   Are you sure the weights were removed or were the ropes simply cut off.

    

    

   Welcome to the
   Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime.
    where ...
   Excellence is its own reward!

4. 
   dtown | Mar 20, 2004 05:25am | #4

   Check the latest issue of Old House Journal.  There is a chunk about the use of spring balances.  I would be interested in hearing more about the Marvin retrofit.  I am using three Marvin sash packs on a restoration on a 1860's workers cottage.  My own home has all the original windows and sash weights.  I am slowly restoring them but would consider the use of a jamb liner retrofit.  I am however a softy for the sound and feel of an old sash weight system.  The cord/chain running over the pulleys along with the klang of the wieghts in the walls is music to the ears on a spring afternoon........

5. 
   MikeK | Mar 20, 2004 06:24am | #5

   Johnny,

   I just installed my first set of Pullman spring balances. They work well. Best thing about them is that I was able to insulate the weight channels around the windows before installing them. And the Pullman balances are historically accurate since they been making them since the 1880's.

   Depending on the wieght of the window they can get pretty big. Make sure you have enough room in the weight channels.

   For more info see there website at  http://www.pullmanmfg.com

   Mike K

   Amateur Home Remodeler in Aurora, Illinois

1. 
   DanH | Mar 20, 2004 02:08pm | #7

   > For more info see there website at http://www.pullmanmfg.com

   Yeah, that's what I was remembering.

   There are also replacement channels that include a coil spring balance. IIRC, these require that you route a slot in both sides of the sash to clear the spring.

2. 
   hammertime | Mar 21, 2004 03:26am | #10

   hey mike thanks a lot that is just what we used the last time but it had been so long i had forgotten.

   johnny

6. 
   JeffBuck | Mar 20, 2004 08:21am | #6

   I'd suggest calling around to some window installers and see if they have any tear outs where they'd be willing to sell ya some weights ...

   I know after a coupla replacements ... I make a deal where you could have a handful ... but only if you took them all.

   Bet my sister in law still has a coupla laying around her basement after I replaced a coupla windows at her place around T-Giving ...

   Jeff

   Buck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

        Artistry in Carpentry                

7. 
   ANDYBUILD | Mar 20, 2004 11:06pm | #8

   I once used these simple  cheap metal sort ofspring things that you slide between the sash and the jamb.

   They put some tension on the windows to keep them up. They worked great and cost about  two bucks each.

   They sort of look like a metal splint you'd put on a broken finger.

   I think HD has them. They actually really work and take all of about 30 sec to install.

   BE dbl hung....hmmm

                              andy

   "My life is my practice"

   
   

   ---

   Edited 3/20/2004 4:07 pm ET by ANDY CLIFFORD(andybuildz)

1. 
   hammertime | Mar 21, 2004 02:51am | #9

   hey andy that sounds like a good idea i may try that one

8. 
   TommH | Mar 22, 2004 10:53pm | #11

   weights are still available. Check http://www.aresource.com. Also brass chains, pulleys... lots of good stuff.

   
   

   ---

   Edited 3/22/2004 3:55 pm ET by TOMMH