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WOOD WINDOW REPAIRS

JTT | Posted in General Discussion on September 27, 2012 11:23am

I am repairing some wood windows in my house and am having a problem with the parting bead.  Is there a trick to getting the parting bead back in when the top sash has a slight overhang that doesn’t allow the bead to go into the slot?  I could always put the bead in in two pieces but there has to be a way to get it back in as one.

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  1. calvin | Sep 27, 2012 04:49pm | #1

    JTT

    Back when they were new and there wasn't paint on those things, I'm imagining that they were shoved in from below-up in the groove with the parting stop flexible enough to make that bend.

    But, after the years and paint-about all you can do is adjust-however you might want to do it.  Boogering up the sash notch probably isn't the most air sealed technique, but has been done either by accident or on purpose.

    I've pulled more than one parting stop that had a small nail in it somewhere-usually on the bottom.

  2. calvin | Sep 27, 2012 05:06pm | #2

    jt

    some more reading (that may or may not help)-but remember, most places you look for tips will simply tell you how to finish is to REVERSE the procedures you used to get it apart...............

    http://www.oldhousejournal.com/sash_window_clinic/magazine/1078

    http://www.advancedrepair.com/weather_stripping/easy_stop.htm

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    hammer1 | Sep 27, 2012 05:09pm | #3

    Put the parting bead in one side, hook up the weight ropes, swing in the upper sash then lower it to the sill. Then you can slip the bottom of the other parting bead in past the notch in the meeting rail.

    1. calvin | Sep 27, 2012 05:14pm | #4

      Pure Genius

      Thank you, if I have done it that way I sure as hell don't remember it.

      I caution anyone to make sure of the rope length and weight so it doesn't bottom out in the cavity.  Often if you can, clean out the bottom of the weight pocket as it catches all sorts of things over the yrs.

      Thanks!

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        hammer1 | Sep 27, 2012 08:28pm | #5

        Yeah, Calvin, comes back like a bad dream. Not many old fashioned wood windows get put back in the original configuration. New sash balances are usually installed and the weight pockets insulated. Energy loss issues aside, the old windows sure outlast the modern offerings. A large percentage of the insulated glass windows lose their seal in 20 years or less.

        1. calvin | Sep 27, 2012 08:43pm | #6

          You said a mouthful there..........

          Energy loss issues aside, the old windows sure outlast the modern offerings

          I've been repairing the bottoms of 70's/80's/90's/00's..................of sash way too often.

          Some lack of care, some poor construction details and some-flower bed sprinklers.................

          Demoralizing and a pain in the rear.

          Historic replication and repair-way more interesting.

  4. DanH | Sep 27, 2012 09:15pm | #7

    Keep in mind that the parting bead was quite flexible when it was new.

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