Can’t find my old thread I just had going on this but here goes.
What is the consensus on this. I have 3 1/2″ trim around the doors and windows. What is the rule for base? 5″ or 3 1/2 base?
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I think it looks better if the base is wider than the door/window casings are. Wide base visually anchors the room, IMO.
Bill
What is the rule for base?
It runs around the room along the floor.
Go with the 5".
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
Tall base looks good and is good. I like to slam the vacuum cleaner into the walls and would rather hit the base than the rock.
What... none of you other guys vacuum?!
I use to vacuum but with all the mess the shop vac left my wife sort of took it back over.If I'd known it was harmless I'd have killed it myself.
What... none of you other guys vacuum?!
Not that we're willing to admit round these parts.
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
My wife told me to vacuum once. I stood up to her and told her I was the man of the house, the alpha male of the pack and not to be ordered around.Then I went back to the ironing and dishes before she really got mad.
"It runs around the room along the floor."
C'mon, give me some credit. I know what base is. Needed info on the width in relation to the trim around doors. Thanks for the info.
in relation to the trim around doors. Thanks for the info.
well ... the door stuf runs up and down ...
cept for the little piece at the top ..
that's runs the same as the base.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Man, you too Jeff. Some of you thought I didnt know what base was? Man, I have to be more careful how I type in these questions.
I'm not that much of a rookie.
I think the base police are still sorting out the nails vs. screws question. There's no "rule" that I am aware of, it's simply dictated by a refined sense of aesthetics. Those that have it generally go with convention, which in these parts is to use a base trim that is wider than the casings. Personally, I'd go with the wider base.
don't mind us ...
we're just a coupla HS chicks trying to make ourselves giggle.
And I vote for the taller base for what it's worth.
is this just one room or a whole house re-do?
first and foremost rule ... match existing ... otherwise ... do what looks best.
and I personally think a taller base helps "anchor" the room. And while we're at it ... don't juct chop off the end of the base shoe and call it a day ... miter and return the shoe .. let's look like we know what we're doing here! End grain ... yecch ...
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Right now its just one room. There are two other adjoining rooms that will be done the same way though. The other level of the house is done in the cheap 2.5" clamshell which I personally hate. Thats a whole other ball of wax though. I'll get to all that next time everything is due for a change of paint.
"I'm not that much of a rookie."Naw, but you need to let your hair down a little when you come here or the hazing will only get worse.The baseboard is representative of the plinths in classical architecture. It needs to be heavy to suggest a foundation. The fact that you chose a larger than average casing stoick says that you are after something classic and classy, not cheap and modern. That says you want at least a 5" base.You could look at the collection from WindorOne for ideashttp://www.windsormill.com/moldings/howto/default.asp?section=http://www.windsormill.com/moldings/101/default.asp
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The fact that you chose a larger than average casing stoick says that you are after something classic and classy, not cheap and modern.
Piffin, I have to disagree with you this one time. Are you saying modern cannot be classic and classy? It will take a lot of convincing for me to accept that.
Ok ok, I see what you are getting at.
Well, modern can certainly be classy as a matter of opinion, which is not mine, ,but might be yours.But as a matter of definition, it is impossible for classic to be modern or for modern to be classic - OK, Maybe in a thousand years somebody will call our modern a classic style.
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Thanks for all the advice fellas. I'll be putting in the 5" base and no plinth blocks. Should be complete or almost complete this weekend. I'll post some pics if anyone is interested.
ps - no harm done regarding a few of the pokes and jabs here. Wouldn't be as much fun without it right?
I am thinking along the line of a Barcelona chair or a Grand Comfort sofa, what else would you call them if not modern classic?
Guess it depends on one's definition of the terms.
Barcelona chair is fantastic. Would love to have one when I have an extra 4 grand to shell out. If you like that sort of stuff check out http://www.dwr.comMoldings and trim were necessary to hide the joining of different planes and surfaces. With todays techniques and materials, this is not always the case anymore, but yet we install miles of trim in the name of decor (me included). Often a whimsical folly or nostalgia of a time long past. I doubt a proper discourse of modern design will ever be possible on this forum, when all architects are evil and FLW is the devil.LOL
It's just a personal opinion based on my sense of refined taste, but to me, modern architecture is akin to wearing flip-flops in the White House
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think colonial is akin to wearing a hoop skirt and girdle to the WH. Modern is a very expansive genre that starts in the early 20th century. Your flip flop analogy would be one blip of that period. It would be like saying I hate modern music meaning everything from Elvis through Rock n' Roll through Disco, Punk Rock, Hip Hop, etc. You get the idea.
Tep, the only thing clear in this conversation is that I know what I hate;)and it ain't architects, LOL
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Many let their egoes get in the way for no good reason, but so do many builders too. Many do atrocious design, and there is alot of bad 'modern' too. I admire classics as much as the next guy, just think we shouldn't propagate history eternally. Heck are TV, movies, books, music, clothes, cars and even food has evolved. Why not our design.Well, I don't know if I can be any clearer for you so I'll leave it at that.
Edited 1/27/2006 8:31 pm ET by TGNY
It's like a beautiful woman.Certain shapes and proportions are always beautiful and user-friendly, regardless the century in which they are built. Take a gal with the right proportions and chop her hair off, put her in combat boots and stovepipe underwear, and think about it.;)
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Take a gal with the right proportions and chop her hair off, put her in combat boots and stovepipe underwear,
As long as her head is still on, what's wrong with that? :)
I'll have to argue that a girl who lets you do all that to her doesn't have her head on - straight, anyway
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Take a gal with the right proportions and chop her hair off, put her in combat boots and stovepipe underwear, and think about it.
Demi Moore.....GI Jane.....YUM!
J. D. Reynolds
Home Improvements
Demi Moore - Ghost - yummier
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What's d'matter, you guys don't like Uma Thurman?
Edited 1/28/2006 7:19 pm ET by TomC
Now there's a face you could break bricks with!
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Uma's okay by me. Demi Moore, too!
Hey. You don't suppose I could find them in the mall parking lot, do you?TIPI,TIPI,TIPI!
O, you mean the mall parking lot from the scam thread?
Yeah. <BFG>TIPI,TIPI,TIPI!
Well said. Bravo!
Are you kidding? I love that kind of stuff. Thanks for the link.
4G for the chair and the ottoman sold separately. They are selling knock-offs for around $500 but I would rather save that $500.
I just noticed you are from TO. If I wanted a Dufflets cake, do you think you could ship one down to me?<g>
The best bakery in the world bar none.
Dufflets cake? What's that? What's their specialty? When was the last time you're in TO?
There are some pretty good cake stores here, Amadeus is one of them. Pretty pricey though.
Dufflets bakery is on Queen St. West, the original location anyway. They make awesome cakes, actually found a website. Do yourself a favour and treat yourself to the white chocolate cake, you won't be dissapointed. Haven't been up to Toronto for 3 years I think, it was during a garbage strike I remember.
Will do. I'll let you know if I like it. Thanks.
They won't ship across the border, maybe you can mail me some crumbs.<g> Hope to visit Ottawa this winter, but probably won't make it to TO this trip.
Even though a taller base looks better, it's a matter of the thickness of both the casing and base. If the base is thicker then the casing you'll have to to apply a plith or chamfer the base where it mets the casing.
If the the casing is the same thickness or thicker then there is no problem. . .
Right now I have the casing going straight to the floor with no Plinth. The corners up top are mitered. Are plinth blocks the way to go? I didnt think of that.
L
What's the thickness of the outside of your casing?
if it's thicker than your base, you're good to go. Otherwise, use plinth blocks.
And use the 5" , if not wider.
And don't mind the crowd here- some of the regulars like to keep themselves amused.
"And don't mind the crowd here- some of the regulars like to keep themselves amused."
Hey ... I was given a choice ...
either pass out useful information ...
or amuse myself.
obviously I chose the latter!
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
Nah, you're one of the guys who can amuse themself AND give useful information
blind dogs ...
bones ...
that sorta thing.
Jeff Buck Construction
Artistry In Carpentry
Pittsburgh Pa
IMO, plinth blocks look a bit odd with mitered top corners - like a mixed metaphor in a country song or something. That said, they save a huge amount of mutter-and-grumble if you realize that your 3-1/2 casing is thinner than your 5 base.
I have the casing run at 3/4" thick and the base at 5/8". Everything is happy where it meets. Bruce
Between the mountains and the desert ...
i agree with billb
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Or you can go baseless with a nice reveal all around. That's the rule in SoHo.
I'm going with the same casing as you , but I'm going with 7 1/2" base. definenately go with the wider choice.
if you go with you the 3 1/2" stock you will most likely end up looking at it later and wishing you had gone wider. I'm sure you will be happy if you go wide base.