30 yr shingles with six different No.
BilljustBill
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What would you tell your neighbor when the roofing company delivers 39 squares of GAF/ELK 30 yr Prestique with SIX different lot numbers? The last two digits are in question
The roofing company rep. came to checkout the Home Pack with all the supplies. He told the neighbor that he called GAF’s factory in Ennis, Tx. They told him that the first number of all the bundles showed they were from that factory, the second number showed they were all made on the same day, and the last two numbers simply were the pallet numbers they were originally stack on…. There shouldn’t be any color match problems.
Are these factory reps and roofing reps being truthful?
Thanks for your help,
Bill
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Seems like a rep would know the answer and not need to call the factory. I have never had dye lot problems with GAF 30 year dimensional. Never used the white and hope i never do.
Thanks for your reply. The color they are using is Barkwood.
What was odd is that the "Inspector" told the neighbor that if it didn't look like it should, the company would replace the roof. The poor neighbor agreed and they started ripping off the old roof. When the neighbor came to talk to me about it, I told her to put that statement he made in writing and get him to sign it. When she did write it like he said, he refused to sign it....
Man, some of these fellow have a slick mouth, but with it come time to make it stick, they fly away from the issue.... With two witnesses that were around when the roofing company Inspector said it, so there is something in case it turns bad....
isn't that classic.
the next words out his mouth will be"i never said that"if a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
I seldom use GAF products, but on the brands I frequent the lot #'s have all the same digits. Never heard of pallet diffentiation.
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somebody is cleaning up inventory of odd lots. Read the lable. I bet it says not to mix lot numbers.
Pallet # is BS. I have seen a whole truckload with same number, and that was on more than one pallet. That is an intentional lie.
I have mixed two lots on a roof, but always separate them at a hip or a valley. That way the different light angle on a different roof plane makes any shade difference un-noticeable.
If I were the customer, I would check that lable and download install directions for documentation, then inform the roofing company that they will not be paid if there is a shade diff in the middle of the roof. Let the installers worry about whether to return them or to be very careful about what goes where. Six diff lots would be a nightmare.
edit to add - It seems like some companies stencil numbers into the strip area on back of the shingle now for lot #
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Edited 9/24/2008 8:32 am ET by Piffin
You are right, the thing is withtthe barkwood, there are plenty of different colors and probably won't make a difference.
I had the same thing happen this spring with some GAF/ELK Shadowline shingles. Ended up useing the mixed numbers in back. Couldn't really see a difference from on top of the roof and couldn't see the roof from the backyard w/ woods beyond that.
Couldn't really do much about it anyway since it was a close out at HD. Told the HO about it beforehand. She didnt mind as long as the front looked the same.
yes, there's that too.
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I haven't used any GAF in a while, but did take the time to read an Owen Corning package the other day.
Says to mix shingles from different bundles to avoid any shading differences. I've never done that or seen it done. Open a bundle, install, and repeat on the next bundle. Can't imagine opening multiple bundle and fishing back and forth between them.
Seems to be more than one way to avoid shading issues.
wow, no way would i want loose shingles scattered all over th eroof to mix them randomly.
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wow, no way would i want loose shingles scattered all over th eroof to mix them randomly.
It's not that big of a deal. My guys usually have about 3 open bundles at a time. On a steep roof, they usually have a guy throwing from the ridge. He does the mixing. If there's three guys with guns each staggered by a few feet, the shingles will get mixed somewhat even if the thrower pulls from the same bundle 'til it's empty.
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I'm just one old guy knockin out my own roof and one for my Dad this weekend.
No way in h*** am I gonna mix bundles to achieve the blend they want jsut so they can denie a claim for some other BS reason.
On low pitch roofs I run up most of the time, so I scatter bundles accordingly. I go up and down a lot easier than I go sideways anywore, but even running them across I wouldn't break a bundle open untill I needed it.
Don't know if I'm gettin lazier or smarter as I get older, but roofing is sinking lower and lower on my "can do" list. :-)
Edited 9/25/2008 8:16 am ET by DaveRicheson
Only successful warranty claim I've ever had was for OC Onyx Black. Same lot #'s--4 different shades of black!
OC ate the shingles AND our labor.
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