Just curious if any of you have had trouble with lumber availability lately.
We’ve been having a heck of a time getting stuff in – Especially 2X6. Some days I’ve wondered if we would have enough lumber to run the plant the next day.
When we need 2X6, we have to call around and scrounge a few boards from one of our other plants. Either that or upgrade the orders from 2X6 to 2X8.
This article mentions the problem, but I haven’t seen much else on it:
http://www.greatfallstribune.com/news/stories/20040829/localnews/1138241.html
I am not crazy. I have been in a very bad mood for 30 years.
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I've heard hurricane charley is having an impact on the south. Things like plywood and drywall are hard to get even at a premium.
I'm right in the middle of the area Charley smacked, working on storm damaged stores and houses and I see no shortage of anything. Playwood is readily available and at the regular price. Same with sheetrock.
I really hope you dont see the shortages. The ones that will see them are not in as much need as you. Good luck.
been watching material fly out of wholesalers as soon as it comes in when doing proposals, specify that all material is spot quoted and subject to change w/o notice must be part driven by the storm damage we've had across country friend in metal goods manufacturing plant showed me price increases over past year, driven by China's demand they're duplicating our style of housing now, must be buying stuff from our market, oil demand is up over there too
Hi
You must have heard about the duty the lumber producers impose on Canadian lumber. Think it got reduced for the third time after appeals to the WTO-(World Trade Organization). What really rots my socks is that the tariff money goes to the people who file the protests. What an incentive plan! Straight to their bottom line for doing nothing. Guess who really pays? Ask you bank manager how much $3-5,000 dollars is amortized over 25 years.
Cheers
Mac
Only the lead dog's view changes.
I doubt the Canadian tarrifs would have anything to do with shortages.Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps. [David Lloyd George]
The tariffs are not charged by Canadians. They are levied by your customs on our lumber crossing the great 49th parallel. It used to be roughly 27%. They claim we unfairly subsidize our lumber. After many NAFTA and WTO protests we are slowly getting there. As mentioned above the beneficiaries are your own lumber producers who are passing on the cost to your home owners.
Cheers
Mac
I know all about the tarriffs.
My point was that I don't see how they could have anything to do with causing a shortage.A fool is quick tempered; a wise man stays cool when insulted. [Proverbs 12:16]
Hi
Sometimes the best of intentions backfire. A lot of mills here in British Columbia were shut down because of the tariff. I saw log yards virtually empty of stock. They wouldn't cut it because they couldn't sell it. Eventually that works its' way down the line. By the way I just heard that we had won another ruling at NAFTA that has to be implemented by Sept 6th.
Cheers
Mac
>> Ask your bank manager how much $3-5,000 dollars is amortized over 25 years.
$5000 at 7% for 25 years is $35.34 per month.
UD
I know your not pulling those numbers out of your hat, where you getting the amortization info?
Doug
well .. for one ...
you can go to most any book store and get an amortization book.
usually near the realestate section .. sometimes even called a mortgage this or thst book ...
mine's called "Barrons Financial Guide Mortgage Payments"
$7.95.
have the recient as a bookmark ...
Barnes and Noble ...
I got my first copy when selling cars ...
now just nice to have around the house ...
JeffBuck Construction, llc Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
I dont got the $7.95 to waste, figured Unc found a web site to do the figuring.
If ya don't got $7.95 to buy a book, do you have excel? It's a simple Time value of money problem. Excel will do it for ya. Don't even have to go to the "net to google a calculator if you have Excel on your desktop. Let me know if you want directions.
You can also do a fairly simple longhand version if you have a scientific calculator. Don't remember the formula but I can look it up for you if you want.
I was just being a smart azz about the $7.95, figured there was some web site that had it available.
I remember back in college doing a program on it as Unc Dunc said he had. But that was on a main frame and I can barely figure out these PC's. :)
I don't have excel on this computer but I know we do on the lap top, have to take a look at it and see if I can remember how to run it.
thanks for the offer
Doug
Here's a mortgage spreadsheet:
-- J.S.
Thanks John, and Rvillaume
John Sprung's sheet is right, and there's a PMT function in excel as well to calculate the payments. JS's sheet uses the formula.
>> ... where you getting the amortization info?
I wrote an amortization program in C about 17 years ago. Been using it ever since.
For a web site, Google for "amortization calculator", with or without the quotes.
Hi
By my calculations it would cost the Homoaner another $10602 depending on his tax bracket.
Cheers
Mac
>> ... it would cost the Homeowner another $10602 ...
That matches my numbers. $5000 principle, $5601.75 interest.
Boss,
We arent' having to much trouble but what I have noticed is that most of our wall materials (2x4s 2x6s) is coming from Europe. Mainly Germany and Austria. The stuff is good and straight right out of the hacks, (about 10% culls) but after a few days in the sun it'll twist like crazy. We have to go back and block between studs at the top and bottom plates our get the tweeker out to try and bring em back straight. Some we just have to replace.
k
Ron, it just took on the 3rd pass reading between not only the lines, but the margins of this post. Did youreally intend the inference??
Yes, as I get older, I do find I need a "helper" to get the "wood" up for the job.
You certainly read more into the thread than I intended.
I was serious about having trouble getting enough lumber to build trusses out of. It's been touch and go for about a month.Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't.