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   TomT226 | Oct 03, 2008 12:52pm | #1

   Built several 3' wide heavy loaded drawers and used Accuride 3832's, and they work fine.  The Liberty side mounts at HD are fine and don't wobble, and are cheaper.  Don't like undermounts for anyghing but lightly loaded.

   If you havn't built the cabs yet, try leaving off the bottom rail and extend the bottom of the cab box 3/4" and mortise the stiles into it.  gives you a flush bottom and you gain 1-1/2" of verticle room.  Edge band the exposed edge.  Lets the water run out if you have a leak too....

    

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   MikeHennessy | Oct 03, 2008 02:26pm | #2

   "If you havn't built the cabs yet, try leaving off the bottom rail and extend the bottom of the cab box 3/4" and mortise the stiles into it.  gives you a flush bottom and you gain 1-1/2" of verticle room.  Edge band the exposed edge."

   Or you can just make 'em with the top of the bottom face frame rail flush with the top of the cab bottom. Eliminates the need for edge banding (bad idea for kitchen cabs, IMHO) & mortising, but you get the same result.

   Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

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   TomT226 | Oct 03, 2008 07:34pm | #5

   Yeah, but you still waste the rail width on the bottom.  IMHO, it's a lot cleaner look. I only used solid wood banding cut 5/16" and dressed to 1/4" on cabs.  Hard maple on paint grade too.

   On PG cabs you can also put down 1/4" by 3/4" maple battens on the bottoms.  Allows you to slide heavy pots and pans around without scraping up the paint. 

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   aleae | Oct 03, 2008 08:31pm | #6

   i use the blum tandems exclusively.  they have listed load ratings for normal and heavy duty, which i believe are 100 and 125 pounds, respectively.  it takes quite a few pans to make 125 pounds.  on drawers wider than 30", we usually plane some leftover oak or maple flooring strips down to 1/2" thick and apply them as stiffeners under the drawer bottom.  they fit front to back in the 1/2" recess required by the tandem slides.  if you make a bank of 4 drawers instead of 3, you limit the height of the drawer intentionally to control the amount of stuff, and the weight, that can be put into the drawer.

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   TomT226 | Oct 04, 2008 02:36am | #9

   Never thought of that.  I'd just make the bottoms out of 1/2" BB.  'Course if you load'em up with gold bars or sinkers.... ;-) 

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   MikeHennessy | Oct 04, 2008 12:03am | #7

   "I only used solid wood banding cut 5/16" and dressed to 1/4" on cabs."

   Well, that's a horse of a differnt color. I thought you were talking about the iron-on (chip off) stuff.

   As for the bottom rail, I guess it's a question of what looks ya like. It's pretty much a decorative element when you get right down to it.

   Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

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   TomT226 | Oct 04, 2008 02:32am | #8

   Only used the solid wood and glued it on with cauls.  Two clamps per 4'.  When the doors run down flush with the bottom on 1/2" overlay, you can only see the stiles.

   Like this.  Look at the base cab on the left.  Can't tell if it's got a bottom rail or not.

    

   Edited 10/3/2008 7:33 pm by TomT226

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   Gene_Davis | Oct 03, 2008 02:42pm | #3

   We have made them wider than 36 and the Tandem's work just fine.

   If you are going to fill them with cast iron cookware, just upgrade to the heavy duty Tandems.

    

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   Gene Davis        1920-1985

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   mike_maines | Oct 03, 2008 03:31pm | #4

   Tandems will have a bit of wobble, but are so much nicer to use than any other slide that I still prefer them over side-mount full extension slides unless the load is going to be REALLY heavy, like a tall pantry unit.

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   oldusty | Oct 04, 2008 05:31pm | #11

   Hi Mike ,

                    I wish I knew for sure , you say the big drawers work fine but the heavy duty undermounts are rated at 125lbs the side mounts go to 150lbs .

      I'm thinking the drawer box thats 32 35" wide and 8 1/2" tall with a 1/2" bottom including the wt of the slides has got to be 20 or 25 lbs with the face possibly more before you load it .

         I have not used the undermounts because of this , I was hoping they would increase the capacity .

                 dusty

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   mike_maines | Oct 04, 2008 09:20pm | #12

   I would guess a drawer that size would be about 8 to 10 pounds.  125 pounds is like two sheets of 3/4" plywood.  That's pretty darn heavy.  A drawer that size that was chock full of canned goods might approach 100lbs.

   Side mounts do work fine though if you want to stay on the safe side.

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   Jeff_Clarke | Oct 04, 2008 07:42am | #10

   We have a number of drawers that wide, several with very heavy contents, in our kitchen with tandem Blumotion self-closing slides.

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   Jeff