Hey y’all. I know there’s some turners here. I’ve got a 14″ Delta iron bed lathe with a swivel head stock, and I want to get into bowls.
Mrs ‘Snort sez Santa might drop off a chuck, while he’s doing his rounds, but she’s totally cornfused about what to get. OneWay has so many kinds, and accessories, but do they (or anyone) that’s a base to build on, for big and little stuff?
I’d ask at “Knots”, but I don’t need a bunch of pinkie pointers asking why I want to turn both big and little bowls<G>. I need answers from real folks, ha.
Thanks
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I ferget the name of it..but it has an expanding base..ya faceplate turn a beveled recess, flip around the blank and mount it on the expanding jaws..when my brain fart clears I'll tell ya the name.
I aslo Think Jerry Glaser? make a cool screw chuck.
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Record makes some somewhat decent chuck kits for turning try looking them up or find a local distributer for them.
As to the Glasier chuck... that starts the drooling
Okay, thanks for adding to the cornfusion<G> What's so great about the Glaser chuck? Seems a screw type chuck is much more limited than the jaw type, especially for bowls. And...Record seems to have even more configurations than Oneway, hmmmm...Maybe I need a book. Anybody know of one that explains the differences??? "what's in a name?" d'oh!
As a member of Knots I would suggest (with the middle pinkie extended) that you purchase a Oneway Stronghold chuck.It is a very manly chuck and has a large number different jaws available.Allowing you to turn both large and small items (how about lace bobbins?Potentially another hobby!).Also when you outgrow capacity of your lathe by purchasing another adapter it can be trans ferred to the next machine
what ya think of the axminster line??.." Feed the good wolf....."
I was hoping you'd chime in. I didn't want to hijack the work station thread, right<G>.I was looking at their (Axeminster) 4" Precision 4-Jaw, but I get lost in the "Jaws" selection.I like that Oneway chuck spur...jeeze louise... "what's in a name?" d'oh!
actually b one way makes some good stuff a couple bucks more, the axminster looks pretty stout. think versatility, oneways the ticket........." Feed the good wolf....."
I saw a cool chuck the other day . Uses vacumn to hold the project . came with three sizes of cups .
Their super precision chuck is excellent and was on special deal this year.However along those lines I like the look of Peter Hemsley's Versachuck even more.It comes with jaw carriers for at least 3 manufacturers and several others are available.One being Axminster.Critisisms I have read were that it was not plated and the wooden storage box badly made.
Ohhhh, I do so like bobbin' for lace...LOLDo you think a beginner should start with No. 2 , flat, or stepped jaws?And hey, thanks for pointing the way, even if it was with your middle pinkie<G>...I just realized why I like hanging out with cartoon characters...they ain't got no middle fingers, ha, ha, ha. "what's in a name?" d'oh!
I would go with the #2 standard jaws and look to purchasing a spigot jaw set for the smaller (and less manly <g>) lace bobbin work.This gives you work holding capacity of 3/8-2" and 2-3 1/2"
I run a Oneway (standard). The Oneway Stronghold is beefier but also more $$$. They also have a smaller chuck (Talon), but it's -- smaller. Someone will say that the key on the Stronghold is easier to do one-handed than the tommy bars on the Oneway, but I haven't found it to be a problem.
With that Delta lathe one of your limiting factors is that the minimum speed is about 450 RPM. If you mount up a big wet log at that speed you're in for some excitement. You'll know that you didn't round it enough before mounting when the lathe starts hopping across the floor, in spite of the sandbags stacked on the stand.
Anyway, whether you run with the Oneway standard or Stronghold, it will come with the #2 jaws. You'll also definitely want the #3 jaws and the jumbo jaws. If you get the Stronghold there's also a #4 jaw set. When you want to turn some knobs or some other small thing you might find the #1 jaws and/or spigot jaws useful.
Somebody mentioned the Glasser screw chucks, which are excellent, but the Oneway chucks come with a screw. The screw is definitely a way to go when first mounting that wet log, and the choice of many professionals. But, with that 450 RPM minimum speed you might feel safer using a face plate. Good ideal to bring your tailstock to bear too when roughing out that log.
Hey, while you're at it, get Richard Raffan's book on turning bowls.
Have fun.
The SuperNova2, or SN2, is very popular. Jaws are compatible with all other chucks made by Teknatool, from small to huge, and it uses an allen-type key instead of tommy bars.
http://www.teknatool.com/
Be seeing you...
Great, good info guys, Mrs 'Snort will be so informed<g>. I've seen Raffin's book among a slew of others, thanks for narrowing that down.Question, the Stronghold has a chuck key which I assume moves all 4 jaws at once, and evenly. The Oneway has levers, how's that work? Is it as easy as the doc says? 80 bucks could buy a couple of additional jaw sets, so's I could be turning bowls and bobbins...
"what's in a name?" d'oh!
The stronghold has keys as it gives a slightly tighter grip for large bowls.T-bars work the same but not as tightly
Edited 11/4/2005 9:55 am ET by jako17
<The stronghold has keys as it gives a slightly tighter grip for large bowls.T-bars work the same but not as tightly>Hey Jako,Does the not as tightly present a problem? Or, is the Stronghold worth the 80 extra beans? Expensive hobby, no?<G>Thanks "what's in a name?" d'oh!
Bite snort, Nova was the other one I was thinnin of. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Spheremon, yeah I've seen 'em...do they fit other lathes? "what's in a name?" d'oh!
Buck me, I don't know. I am latheless at the present time, never made it up from NC when I moved. I think it fits a standard threaded headstock or or outboard end..
Is the Delta a morse taper too? Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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All the Oneway chucks are good .The stronghold is designed for max holding power on large objects(You said you want to go large!!).It is their flagship chuck .The only downside I can think of, is that the length of it shortens the effective bed length of the lathe when turning between centres.Talon etc are shorter.Not really an issue.Most important for you is availability.I believe that you are in North America so Oneway is close.I have lathes and turn professionally on both sides of the Atlantic so am very familiar with Axminster in the UK and Oneway here.They have 16000 of their precision chuck sold and it is very effective and popular in the UK. IMHO you should look at how long they have been in business,selection and availability of accessories,range of backplates available so you can use the chuck on different lathes.Some creative design will also help you get the most out of your lathe.It is quite possible to turn a bowl without a purchased chuck .Just laborious,I have turned bowls on a spring pole lathe
Either Oneway or Vicmarc makes a good chuck. I know some professional turners and they use one or the other.
Which one you choose depends on the type ( size ) turning you want to do- the bigger the turnings, the bigger the chuck you need. I've had the standard Oneway, with the 2 rods, for years, and its done very well with pieces up to 10" dia. But my current lathe only has an 11" swing.
I plan on upgrading to the new Powermatic lathe soon, and I'll get a new, bigger chuck then, too. Gotta have tools, ya know.
If you don't have them already, get the Crafts Supply catalog ( http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com ) and the Packards woodworks catalog ( http://www.packardwoodworks.com ) . They're both interesting reading, and have just about everything you'll need.
i believe packard have better prices..." Feed the good wolf....."
yeah, but Craft Supplies has such nice pictures of all their goodies <G>
Hey Shep,I've probably got much more lathe than I'll ever use...though I used to turn some on an old Atlas metal lathe that was tricked out to 5' between centers. It was like a long etch a sketch<G>I'm looking at the Woodturner's Catalog now, very pretty pictures, don't know how they got all stuck together. Packard is over in the eastern part of the state, and then, Woodworker's Supply is about 20 min. away...I've got plenty of places to drop Mrs 'Snort's dough. "what's in a name?" d'oh!
BiteMe,
The standard Oneway with the two bars for tightening is my choice, and I've used them all. The Oneway Stronghold and other comparable brands are so big they are awkward to work around. If you want to turn big bowls, a faceplate and six screws is much more secure, with less chatter. If I'm turning something larger than 12" I use a face plate. I've turned vessels up to 40" in diameter.
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~claypen
after going through clay's web page i would listen everything he said very carefully .i'm no where the turner he is and in this life i'd be happy to be the "utility turner " , with an occasinal table leg design. but that man's work is beautiful.............." Feed the good wolf....."
your work is beautiful, a perfect example of dedication and vision, i'm tryin' not fawn. embarassing for a grown man.. LOL, anyhow beautiful...." Feed the good wolf....."
What alias said...you are an arteeest! Seems like I could surely muddle along with the Oneway<G>Thanks podner. "what's in a name?" d'oh!
Thanks, guys. Brad Packard is a good guy, and I usually buy turning stuff from him. There is a woodturners club in Greensboro. They will probably be very helpful. Their website is
http://www.piedmontcommunities.us/go/ptwaI'll be doing a demo for a woodturners club in Asheville Nov 19, but that's a good ways from you.Clay Foster
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~claypen
I see there's also an AAW chapter in Raleigh, I'll have to get over there.Enjoy yourself in Ashville, beautiful place. "what's in a name?" d'oh!
After attending quite a few woodturning symposiums, and talking with production turners (bowl and hollow vessel), I switched from nova and oneway chucks to the vicmark scroll chuck (the big one) sold by Craft Supply, Provo, UT. IMHO, you can reef down harder on the two tommy bars than you can twist the "chuck key" - type tightener.
Just my 2¢,
Alan
Thanks for the tommy bar info, only 48 days til xmas<G> "what's in a name?" d'oh!
Hey snort bite..I'd go along with that response...I think it will be awesome.......
Do you have any turning tools? I may spare a sweet gouge, I no longer use..if yer interested.? Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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