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   artacoma | Mar 22, 2008 02:17am | #1

   Code doesn't say that a deck needs to be attached to any adjacent building.

   Rik

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 02:46am | #2

      Really?

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5K8sofXj5E

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   FatRoman | Mar 22, 2008 03:49am | #3

   Well, take this with a large dose of salt. But I believe what I've read here regarding decks and brick houses is that you'd be better off with a freestanding deck. Somebody else will surely have better advice.And I'm fairly certain that this document is what Bill Hartmann has posted before on deck codes. (That almost came out as deck coeds)http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpwes/publications/decks/details.pdf'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 03:52am | #4

      Thank you sir.

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   FatRoman | Mar 22, 2008 04:57am | #7

   No problemo.You watching the Louisville game now?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 06:42am | #8

      Yep. Me and the dog have been sprawled out on the couch with a big bowl of popcorn having a scratch fest. Good game. Well for us anyway. :)

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   rez | Mar 22, 2008 03:52am | #5

   What is the actual code for fastening a deck to a brick house?   heh heh    Now that's funny right there.

    

    

   Peach full,
   easy feelin'.

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   PaulC | Mar 22, 2008 04:50am | #6

   lots of places it's just plain prohibited to attach a ledger to brick veneer. Freestanding only.

   Amateurs talk strategy, Generals talk logistics.

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 06:45am | #9

      HMM. I know that's it's almost impossible to find instructions on doing it. Lots of articles on attaching to a wood or vinyl sided house. But never to brick.

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   frammer52 | Mar 22, 2008 04:21pm | #10

   I believe that freestanding is the only way to build deck with brick veneer.

   Talk to local building inspector.  Find out what he wants.

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 04:43pm | #11

      I'm going to have to do that I guess.  What is your definition of brick veneer? I keep hearing that term here. Mine is actual brick that comes from a brick yard. Is veneer something different?

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   frammer52 | Mar 22, 2008 05:10pm | #12

   brick veneer is brick applied over wood frameing, not structural.

   In simple terms, this is how brick houswes are now built as oppossed to the old brick building where they are solid brick.

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 05:14pm | #13

      AHH HAA! Thanks for clearing that up.

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   rasconc | Mar 22, 2008 05:35pm | #14

   Can't believe I am the first but here it is: it is going to be different depending on your ahj.

   Here is the NC code:

   http://ecodes.iccsafe.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Residential/part01409/chapter01512.htm?fn=main-nf.htm$f=templates$3.0

   I vote for free standing.   I repaired one that was attached with expansion anchors in the brick.  Scared me.  I drilled through and put carriage bolts through the rim joist/band.

   If it was a big deck or high I think I would use some of the Simpson brackets that attach to the house joists and have a hole in the end for the carriage bolt.

   http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/HDA-HD.asp

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 08:15pm | #15

       I got an unable to load message.

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related

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   MarkH | Mar 22, 2008 08:18pm | #16

   I don't, but I'm already loaded.

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   rasconc | Mar 22, 2008 09:21pm | #17

   Must be some blocker on yours, did both not load?  I clicked and they both reloaded for me., can cut and paste.

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   APPENDIX MWOOD DECKS

   1.     A deck is an exposed exterior wood floor structure which may be attached to the structure or freestanding. Roofed porches (open or screened-in) may be constructed using these provisions.

        Computer deck design program printouts may be accepted by the Code Enforcement Official.

   2.     Support posts shall be supported by a footing.

   3.     When attached to a structure, the structure to which attached shall have a treated wood band for the length of the deck, or corrosion-resistant flashing shall be used to prevent moisture from coming in contact with the untreated framing of the structure. Aluminum flashing may not be used in conjunction with deck construction. The deck band and the structure band shall be constructed in contact with each other except on brick veneer structures and where plywood sheathing is required and properly flashed. Siding shall not be installed between the structure and the deck band. If attached to a brick structure, neither flashing nor a treated band for the brick structure is required. In addition, the treated deck band shall be constructed in contact with the brick veneer.

   4.     When the deck is supported at the structure by attaching the deck to the structure, the following attachment schedules shall apply for attaching the deck band to the structure.

   FIGURE A-1

   FOOTING CHART

   SIZE (inches)

   TRIBUTARY AREA (sq. ft.)

   THICKNESS (inches)

   AxA

   BxC

   (sq. ft.)

   Precast

   Cast-in-Place

   8 x 16

   8 x 16

   36

   4

   6

   12 x 12

   12 x 12

   40

   4

   6

   16 x 16

   16 x 16

   70

   8

   8

    

   16 x 24

   100

    

   8

    

   24 x 24

   150

    

   8

        A.      All Structures Except Brick Veneer Structures:

   Fasteners

   8' Max Joist Span

   16' Max Joist Span

   5/8" Hot Dipped Galv. Bolts and Washers*and12d Common Hot Dipped Galv. Nails**

   1 @ 3'-6" o.c.and2 @ 8" o.c.

   1@ 1'-8" o.c.and3 @ 6" o.c.*     Minimum edge distance for bolts is 2-1/2 inches.**     Nails must penetrate the supporting structure band a minimum of 1-1/2 inches.

        B.      Brick Veneer Structures:

   Fasteners

   8' Max Joist Span

   16' Max Joist Span

   5/8" Hot Dipped Galv. Bolts*

   1 @ 2'-4" o.c.

   1@ 1'-4" o.c.

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   Gunner | Mar 22, 2008 10:38pm | #18

      The top link wouldnt load.

    

    

    

    

    

    

   Pop, lock, and drop it.

    

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3LM5_-i1Q&feature=related