Hi.
I’m doing a bunch of trimwork in a modular home to update the old, hideous look. It’s not exactly a fine home, but it’s my customer’s home nonetheless, and I want to make it look great for her.
One feature we want to change is the fake oak veneer covered beam running the length of the main living area (21′ long). I suggested we just cover it over with finger jointed pine trim and paint to match the other trim. She liked that idea, but the problem is there is a ceiling fan mounted on the beam. The fan is as tacky as the rest of the trim, and she wants it gone.
Code wont allow me to cover the junction box behind the fan. Options anyone? Does anyone know of some decorative covers to hide the box? Any other ideas?
Thanks everyone. I’m trying to talk her into replacing it with a modern looking fan, but for whatever reason she doesnt want to.
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Is this fan's junction box a dead end? If so, can you find the other end of all of the wires in the box? If you can find the other end of the wires, pull'm out and cover the box.
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I am guessing that this is a recessed box, and all you have is the cover plate to worry about.
If this is the case, you have several options:
If it's hot, the box must remain accessible. If not, you can abandon it in place and hide it.
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You could just put a small unobtrusive light fixture of some sort on there.
If the box has wires that continue on then it needs to be accessible.
But if it is just a single switched cable then you can disconnect it at the switch and remove/cover the box.
If you have power comming in and then a switch leg you need to disconnect the power in and the switch leg at the switch.
But if either hot or switched hot continuses on to other places it needs to either remain or wired around.
There are simple plain white round plastic covers for ceiling boxes.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
If this is just a dead end mounting box, it is not a junction box and if you disable the power to it, then you can lose it.
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If the area above it is attic, you can remove the box, pull the wires up into the attic, and remount a new box up there out of the way as long as it can still be easily found again.
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If you need one, there is a UL approved "splicer" for romex that requires no junction box. You should be able to get one from an electrical supply house.
"If you need one, there is a UL approved "splicer" for romex that requires no junction box. You should be able to get one from an electrical supply house."They are only for specialized applications (modular homes?) and they still need to be accessable..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
If you need one, there is a UL approved "splicer" for romex that requires no junction box. You should be able to get one from an electrical supply house.
I've never heard of this before. NEC allows it? What kind of splicer is it? How new does the wire have to be? Anyone have a specific part number? How expensive? Interesting.
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I was told you could hide a junction box as long as it is accessable. It be like having a box in the attic. Its there and nobody can see it but you can get to it, if you have too.You cant hide one in a wall with no way to get to it, but you can to the whirlpool tub as long as there a panel to it
or screw an HVAC vent over it
if you made an permant splice in the box, would it then be a junction box?
if you made an permant splice in the box, would it then be a junction box?Yes!Frank DuVal You can never make something foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
I hope you"re not using a neon type tester ......
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Couple of options
1) dome cover plate, very common, install a bar and centre decorative nut
2) As mentioned, dissconect the switch leg and lose it
3) Electrician once buried a box by soldering the wires, said it was to code, I never checked cause I just wanted to get rid of the box. Wouldn't recomend this for multiple wires, but a straight junction, why not? Oops shouldn't have said that, now I'm in for it.
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