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Canuck NEWBIE says hello.

STAINLESS | Posted in General Discussion on April 8, 2005 02:29am

Greetings & Felicitations.

As a 1st time poster (be gentle, not yet saddle broke), an intro. of sorts seems fair.

My background is mostly tech. oriented,  I’m a fierce believer in DIY whenever possible. Metal working is a 1st love. Construction has become a fascinating & challenging interest of past 15 years. No professional aspirations, however.

Someday hope to become part of building my own home.

Have been reading FHB for 10+ yrs., collecting tools for 35. Worked for a Machine Tool Builder (NY State HQ’d) for 22yrs in various capacities (field service, sales, management) only in CANADA, however.

Hoping to contribute my dumb-a$$ building mistakes and questions as a shared learning experience for any & every one interested as well as to learn from all those who take the time to post their own wisdoms.

Regards

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    SamT | Apr 08, 2005 02:32am | #1

    Welcome, stranger

    SamT

  2. JoanM | Apr 08, 2005 02:47am | #2

    Welcome Stainless

    I've been hanging around here for about a month... careful you don't get hooked...though being hooked so far isn't so bad..

    I'm in Halifax, and there are quite a handful of regulars that are Canucks here. 

  3. cliffy | Apr 08, 2005 03:46am | #3

    Hello Stainless!  I'm another canuck.  Actually I was at a hockey game in Washinton a few years back between the Capitals and the Canucks. Had to explain to these girls beside us what Canucks are.

    Where abouts north of Toronto are you?  If south of Barrie then you are still T.O. to us!  This is a good bunch around these parts but don't tell them what you really think of George Bush or the Texans will tear a strip off you!

    Have a good day

    Cliffy

    1. byrnesie | Apr 08, 2005 03:59am | #4

      Cliify,

      What are Canucks please- I never even thought to wonder where that term came from

      1. cliffy | Apr 08, 2005 04:10am | #5

        I'm no literary giant but as far as I know Canuck is just slang for Canadian.  Similar to Yankee is slang for an American.

        If anybody else out there knows more, feel free to enlighten us. 

        P.S   Cajun in New Orleans is a historical reference to the Canadians that got run out of town on the east coast and ended up in Louisiana.  With their accent Canadian sounded like Cajun.

        Have a good day

        Cliffy

        Edited 4/7/2005 9:14 pm ET by cliffy

        Edited 4/7/2005 9:14 pm ET by cliffy

        1. Piffin | Apr 08, 2005 04:22am | #6

          Actually, Yankee is originally a 'slang' for englishSeems the indians had there own pronunciation for "Yee English" that came out sounding like Yingees, which we mnow use and spell as Yankees. I thought that Canuck was slang for the French canadian group 

           

          Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

          1. Lansdown | Apr 08, 2005 04:34am | #7

            according to Merriam Webster:One entry found for Canuck.
            Main Entry: Ca·nuck
            Pronunciation: k&-'n&k sometimes -'nuk
            Function: noun
            Etymology: origin unknown
            : a Canadian and especially a French CanadianNow ask how many Canucks no the words to their national anthem...
            since there has been no hockey, the anthem is rarely heard.

          2. cliffy | Apr 12, 2005 02:07am | #42

            We still get to hear the anthem at the junior hockey level. Great hockey, better price

            and the players are not greedy!

            Have a good dya

            Cliffy

          3. cliffy | Apr 12, 2005 02:06am | #41

            I didn't know that about the yankee origin. 

            Have a good day

            Cliffy

        2. PhillGiles | Apr 08, 2005 04:57am | #10

          Cajun is derived from Acadian..
          Phill Giles
          The Unionville Woodwright
          Unionville, Ontario

          1. Philter | Apr 08, 2005 05:19am | #11

            I have family "north" of Toronto, Penetanguishene to be exact. Where are you?....and welcome, we need more Canajuns."If 'tis to be,'twil be done by me."

          2. cliffy | Apr 12, 2005 02:04am | #40

            I received another notice too.  I had a tour of New Orleans a while back, maybe I wasn't paying enough attention or maybe the tour guide is not as well informed as the breaktimers gang.   Anyway it was a good place for a vacation. 

            Have a good day

            Cliffy

        3. 2thumbs | Apr 11, 2005 12:56am | #28

          <P.S Cajun in New Orleans is a historical reference to the Canadians that got run out of town on the east coast and ended up in Louisiana. With their accent Canadian sounded like Cajun.>Woops, don't tell the ACADIANS that they were Canadian. "Cajun" is, if I may use the term, a bastardization of the French "Acadien". The journey from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick was a heroic journey both when they were expelled and when they returned. Many WALKED to Lousiana -- and back! No Amtrack or JetGo then.

          1. mizshredder2 | Apr 11, 2005 01:07am | #29

            Let me race KKEARNEY to this...

            MILKBONES TO YA!

            :-)

             Of all the things that I have lost, I miss my mind the most! 

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            coonass | Apr 11, 2005 02:08am | #32

            miz,
            TwoThumbs got it right.
            Dem crawfish is runnin'. Ayiiii!KK

          3. mizshredder2 | Apr 11, 2005 02:19am | #33

            Mudbugs for dindin?  I'm THERE!Of all the things that I have lost, I miss my mind the most! 

          4. cliffy | Apr 12, 2005 01:52am | #39

            I humbly stand corrected.  I was on a tour in New Orleans a few years ago and either the tour guide or I got the facts wrong.  Any way you slice it,  it originated from the people on Canada's east coast and New Orleans is one heck of a vacation!

            Have a good day

            Cliffy

          5. HeavyDuty | Apr 12, 2005 04:00am | #43

            Hi Cliffy, I am planning a vacation going down to New Orleans from Nashville along the Natchez Trace probably next year or so.

            What's your experience with New Orleans? Like where to stay, where to eat, what to see and so on. You know all the tourist stuff and the not so tourist stuff.

          6. cliffy | Apr 13, 2005 05:03am | #44

            I went down with my wife about two years ago, had a good time.  She went to a pharmacy conference at a confernce centre about a mile long.  When she was there I went on the spouses tour for 3 days ( 4 bus loads of women, about 10 men)   We went to everything.  The cool cemetaries,  the arts district,  trolley car tour,  plantation tour about an hour out, the mardigras museum a swamp tour and a whole bunch of other things.  

            They all try to tell you to take cabs but the French Quarter and all the touristy things there are easy walking distance.   There are good musicians playing on street corners but there are all kinds of scammers trying to get your money too.  Some guy tried to get me to pay ten bucks for shining my sneakers.  We stayed at the Hotel Monaco, just beside the French Quarter,  I can't remember how much it was but there was nothing cheap.

            Overall it was a good time but if we had our young kids we may have stayed in the hotel more at night as it seemed a little rough at night.  (but we live in a tiny town so we are a little nervous in any big city

            Have a good time

            Cliffy

          7. mizshredder2 | Apr 13, 2005 05:21am | #46

            Did ya catch the aquarium?Of all the things that I have lost, I miss my mind the most! 

          8. HeavyDuty | Apr 13, 2005 05:24am | #47

            Good stuff, thanks.

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          10. cliffy | Apr 22, 2005 11:04pm | #48

            I just remembered that in Finehomebuilding there is a regular contributor named John Michael Davis who is from New Orleans.  He would know what to see and do there.  Maybe he checks out breaktime,

            Bon Voyage

            Cliffy

          11. HeavyDuty | Apr 23, 2005 07:57am | #56

            Miz has been kind enough to feed me leads, she lived in NO for 8 years so she has a lot of insider's information.

            Are you thinking of going back someday?

          12. cliffy | Apr 28, 2005 04:19am | #58

            I may go back when my girls get older (they are 8 now) but I have 8 provinces and about 40 states yet to see also.

            Have a good day

            Cliffy

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          CapnMac | Apr 23, 2005 12:39am | #49

          With their accent Canadian sounded like Cajun.

          Now, I've been amongst Louisianans of all stripe, from northerners (up 'roun' Shreveport, to southerners--been past a few of them, in the "salt marsh parishes" a time or two).

          The story I have heard from the arcadians is that, having been run out of the Maritimes, N.S. & NF, and then run out of the Carolinas, they settled in the last "french' place they could find:  Lousiana.  Add more than some drawl to "Arcadien" or to "Arcadiennes" and the "ah" in front gets aspirated away a bit; add in a perjoritive "injun."  Then it's "ah'Chadjun," which would morph to "cajun" rather readily.

          Now, I remember a time not so long ago, when the other term--coona**--was considered "fighting" rude.  The "genteel" folk (who would use the term "creole" for themselves.  Something amusing about one side drawing themselves on one side of the tracks, putting the other group on the other, and leaving the lsu-types in the middle hated by both (at least after they run out of whiskey . . . )Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

          1. MGMaxwell | Apr 23, 2005 12:58am | #51

            Creole is a different mix. Not necessarily more or less genteel. Denotes African roots.

          2. hacknhope | Apr 23, 2005 07:10am | #54

            I was taught (by people who probably had no clue) that Creole meant born in the New World;  I recall it referring to second generation white folk of Portugese or Spanish descent not entirely bowing to the prevailing European pecking order and manerisms, but forming their own social elite.   I learn today that, to some, it implies born in the New World and of African descent.

          3. PhillGiles | Apr 23, 2005 07:23am | #55

            The earlier meaning applied only to whites of Spanish or French ancestry, born in the New World, and, still speaking Spanish or French. The definition was extended to include mixed race persons, but they still had to have some Spanish/French ancestry and speak the language. Creole has since been applied locally in Louisianna to those of no obvious European ancestry, but who also spoke either a French or Spanish dialect..
            Phill Giles
            The Unionville Woodwright
            Unionville, Ontario

          4. PhillGiles | Apr 23, 2005 01:57am | #52

            This would probably be a good place to point out that Arcadia is in Greece, not Canada..
            Phill Giles
            The Unionville Woodwright
            Unionville, Ontario

        5. MGMaxwell | Apr 23, 2005 12:51am | #50

          I think cajun is slang for Arcadian. The same Candadians you refer to, but it's the region, not the country that's the source of the reference.

          1. PhillGiles | Apr 23, 2005 02:01am | #53

            That would be Acadian. Arcadians live in Greece or a city in California.
            Phill Giles
            The Unionville Woodwright
            Unionville, Ontario

          2. MGMaxwell | Apr 23, 2005 03:55pm | #57

            Wait, aren't acadians those noisy insects that go on all nite long saying "adadian...acadian did not."

  4. HeavyDuty | Apr 08, 2005 04:38am | #8

    Welcome STAINLESS.

    North of Toronto? Yeah, how far north?

    If not too far watch out for a guy named Phill, he's just north of Toronto.

    Me? North York, Toronto.

    1. moltenmetal | Apr 08, 2005 04:47am | #9

      North York, eh?  C'mon over to my place and help me muck plasticized clay crap out of my excavation!  You probably live down the street!

      As to Canuck, I thought that was a perjorative term reserved for all residents of what Rush Limbaugh or some other similar moron called the "Soviet Republic of Canuckistan"!

      Stainless- welcome!  I'm a fierce (you can probably add idiotic) DIYer too.  I'm probably also proof positive that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing!   And I'm also a lover of metal fab- involved with it quite a bit professionally and I do bronze and aluminum rough sand castings as a hobby- when I'm not mucking out clay ooze and cursing the meltwater...

      1. HeavyDuty | Apr 08, 2005 06:17am | #12

        C'mon over to my place and help me muck plasticized clay crap out of my excavation!  You probably live down the street!

        You excavating? Plasticized clay crap? Sounds familiar.

        Hey, aren't you the guy digging tunnels in my backyard?

        Where exactly are you? I'll drop by.

      2. hacknhope | Apr 11, 2005 01:36am | #30

        Seriously, what is that plasticized clay crap under my topsoil?  Almost makes ya want to move the Beach to get some sand in the soil.Also in North York, but in denial and call it Toronto.

        1. moltenmetal | Apr 11, 2005 05:20pm | #37

          hacknhope- I'm actually glad I've got clay till instead of sand!  My brother had a place in the Beach, had to pay to have a hole dug and then to have it filled in again!  He had to support the addition on piers because the water table was so high, the neighbours so near and the "angle of repose" of that crap was so shallow...Basically if you buy any of the original construction duplexes down there, you've got to expect a couple of inches of slope toward the central bearing wall.  It's one of those places where it's a good thing "they don't build 'em like they used to"! 

          In contrast, my place sat on this clay for 70 yrs without footings, and with weeping tile which did the opposite of what was intended.  Though there is the odd crack in the old concrete wall, there was very little settlement- certainly not inches.

          I'll take my clay till over that any day, as horrible as it is to work in at the moment!  I've gained a new appreciation for what a WWI trench must have been like.   It's pretty amazing to see the way the tree roots turned at the exact interface between the loam and the top of this clay till.  They seem to turn like nails driven into a board sitting on top of a piece of steel.  Yes, I know that the loam and the tree root layer have something to do with one another, but it's still pretty cool to see just how few roots actually dug into this stuff.

          You're not in denial- you ARE in Toronto now!  And they're harmonizing the bylaws to the stupidest one that any of the former 6 municipalities had, which often was Toronto anyway.

          1. hacknhope | Apr 11, 2005 05:38pm | #38

            I know, I know.  Clay is also relatively nutrient rich too.  But that goo is a famously bizarre and I'm not yet ready to say anything good about it.

            We've been doing major landscaping and minor construction on one or other spot on our yard for the past two years and are finally without a single place that there isn't some kind of lid on the slippery greasy mess.  You can have clumps a full foot thick clinging to both sides of the shovel and an 8 inch thick and 2 foot wide patty clinging to a single sneaker. 

            Nice to say hello to neighbours.  Hope you are well.

             

  5. mizshredder2 | Apr 08, 2005 08:17am | #13

    Yo Stainless - welcome to BT.  Ya musta been lurking for awhile as I see you've already got the basics in your profile filled out! 

    "GOOD NEWBIE - VERY GOOD NEWBIE!"

    Of all the things that I have lost, I miss my mind the most! 

  6. dIrishInMe | Apr 08, 2005 01:41pm | #14

    Welcome bud...

    To add a little diversity to the mix, I live in Raleigh North Carolina and work in new construction.  Lots of that around here.  Kind of weak on the remodeling stuff though.   Really though, I think the mix here at BT consists of more remodeling types.  Been hanging here since around '97.  If I only had a dime for every minute I "invested"... :-)

    You will find it's interesting to read about how differently some things are built in the various regions throughout the continent.  We've got some folks from across the pond and a few down under too.

    Canada...  It's a beautiful place.  Went on vacation to the Canadian Rockies not too long ago.  Talk about big skies...  
     
    Enjoy,

    Matt
  7. BKCBUILDER | Apr 08, 2005 02:14pm | #15

    Canadian eh......well we now require a passport....PAPERS, WE MUST SEE YOUR PAPERS!

    hehehehe....this whole passport crap is gonna make the fishing and hunting trips tp Fraser Lake a bit of a pain in the arse.

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      JeffBuck | Apr 09, 2005 09:06am | #21

      "a bit of a pain in the arse."

       

      Uh ... Keith?

      Why not carry the passport in a coat pocket like the rest of us?

       

      Jeff  Buck Construction 

         Artistry in Carpentry

              Pgh, PA

      1. BKCBUILDER | Apr 09, 2005 03:05pm | #22

        Oooops, forgot..we're contractors, we carry our passports and at least 20K in cash at all times, so we can leave the scene fast, and live out of reach of US law on our vast foreign bank accounts. Sorry, keep forgetting.

        I failed contractor school.....showed up the first day I was scheduled on time...instant FAIL.

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          JeffBuck | Apr 10, 2005 02:33am | #23

          did ya miss my little joke there or are ya just ignoring it!

           

          Jeff  Buck Construction 

             Artistry in Carpentry

                  Pgh, PA

          1. BKCBUILDER | Apr 10, 2005 04:55am | #24

            Nah I didn't miss it, I'm just ignoring it.

            I didn't subscribe to the tavern thing....am I missing anything? The politics stuff bores me to tears......let me know if there's anything I need to throw in my 2 cents on. Keith

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            JeffBuck | Apr 11, 2005 04:04am | #35

            nothing really to miss.

            now it's less politics but everything else is watered down.

             

            I'll track ya down as soon as there's a good thread on racing or flaming appliances or idgit inspectors.

            U planning on mnaking the trip to ToledoFest?

            Jeff

               Buck Construction 

               Artistry in Carpentry

                    Pgh, PA

  8. scottbr | Apr 08, 2005 04:14pm | #16

    Another Canuck here..... NW of Toronto.

    1. paule38 | Apr 08, 2005 04:40pm | #17

      Not a true Canuck, but used to be as close to one without actually being one...lived in Clayton NY for a couple years.....used to ride across to Wolfe Island from cape Vincent, headed for a mess of Chinese food in Kingston.....and watching roller derby way back when........If you aren't one of the one's I'm talking about,you shouldn't have any complaints....

  9. luckypenny | Apr 09, 2005 01:48am | #18

    Hello,

    I'm new too and Canadian.  This forum is really addicting so watch out.  I've only been here a few days and am amazed how much traffic there is.  I've gotten some good feedback on my own questions.

    (previously known as Bunny - the only time i've ever changed to calm my boyfriend)
    1. zendo | Apr 09, 2005 02:34am | #19

      Oh well if its to calm your boyfriend, then

      Hi Bunny.

      Got any pics?

      -zen

      1. mizshredder2 | Apr 10, 2005 05:44am | #25

        Lucky Bunny Penny -

        (Yeah, I like that new ID best...I think!  LOL!) 

        Well ya got tagged for a pic in less than an hour of introducing yourself.  (Way to go Petie/Zendo!)  Consider it your rite of passage.   :-)

        And since you've been reading for awhile, you know you've got at least 35 other gals on this here Forum with ya so ....Howdy & WELCOME to ya!Of all the things that I have lost, I miss my mind the most! 

        1. luckypenny | Apr 10, 2005 06:19pm | #26

          shredder,

          yes, I did notice there are a good number of female types.  I also notice there seems to be a good variety of people from different back grounds (in terms of construction as well as other types) and from all over the continent and a good range of ages.

          all in all this seems like a real quality forum.

          cheers!

           

    2. user-205431 | Apr 11, 2005 03:54am | #34

      Another Canadian newbie here.  DH and I have a renovating business in South Mississauga which is just West of Toronto.

  10. hasbeen | Apr 09, 2005 02:39am | #20

    Welcome, Stainless!

    I'll take a good bottle of stout, thanks.

    I'm thankful for the loyal opposition!  It's hard to learn much from those who simply agree with you.

    I try to be helpful without being encouraging.

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    skyecore | Apr 10, 2005 08:01pm | #27

    welcome stainless!

    ______________________________________________

    --> measure once / scribble several lines / spend some time figuring out wich scribble / cut the wrong line / get mad

  12. MG911 | Apr 11, 2005 02:04am | #31

    Hello from Saskatoon, Sask. 

    The information and discussion around here is invaluable. I've learned so much from others and have had the pleasure of offering some feedback on a couple of issues.  I'm relatively inexperienced compared to some of the folks around here but have never felt out of place.

    I don't think you can put a price on the wealth of information.  One thing I have found is that most questions have been asked or answered at some point in the past so don't hesitate to use the search engine for queries and be prepared to spend many hours soaking it all in.

    Best regards,

    Mike

  13. Virginbuild | Apr 11, 2005 09:27am | #36

    Welcome Stainless,

    Don't worry about building your own house, sounds like you have a done a lot of research and have a lot of how-to material on hand. The one thing you might have a problem with is your past work experience carrying over into the house building project. I refer to your "building machine tools", relating to precision work and perfection. You will have to settle for gigunda tolerances compared to micrometer type differences. If you can adjust to that leap in tolerances without going on Prozac you will do fine. Just take it one stick or stone at a time.

    One other thing, I lived on the border for most half of my life and I feel very strongly about our two countries relationship. I love Canadians and our close relationship. Let us never take it for granted. May we and our politicians always work to keep and improve our love and care for each other.

    Regards,

    Virginbuild

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