im getting ready to put #1 16 inch ceder shingles my 2 story house..with a 6 inch exposure…
i am weaving the corners and i also want to “skirt or flare the bottom 2 or 3 courses”
its all about the details,, time consuming as it might , i really like the look…
ive been tinkering with how far to flare away from the wall and so far 1 1/2 looks pretty good
should i use a treated wood for this ? or cedar? i dont think they make treated 2x2s?
any suggestions on better way to getting after this? or tips on things not to do?
i also really like the look of a sidewall “eyebrow “over some of the windows …i couldnt find a picture so i hope you know what im talking about..but i have now idea on how to do this ? any suggestions? thanks for all the input
tj
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Everything comes down to personal tastes, I prefer corner boards, nice to see TAR paper though. I believe a back issue of FHB may have had an article on the skirt detailing.
Yes, they do make PT 2x2's. A 12" to a 18" taper usually works well. (1-1/2" to 0"). As far as the eyebrow goes. I think what you are talking about is like a shallow awning. You would build it similar to your bumpout but tapered in 2 directions. Depending on how far the projection is, you may have to taper the shingles at the top to get a good fit.
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the projection being how far over the window the awing will be?the two windows on the front upper and the two on the bumpout is where i was going to use that detail..so i guess you would taper the 1 1/2 on the ends ?by the way, thats 30 pount felt all i would use on my houses, would like to put some type of breather back there too like home slicker but i cant afford the stuff
the projection being how far over the window the awing will be?
Yes
the two windows on the front upper and the two on the bumpout is where i was going to use that detail..so i guess you would taper the 1 1/2 on the ends ?
I was thinking more projection in the center of the unit and higher in the center as well.
by the way, thats 30 pount felt all i would use on my houses, would like to put some type of breather back there too like home slicker but i cant afford the stuff
You could also use horizontal strapping or lattice strips for a breather.
"It is what it is."
Try the advanced search for corner weaving discussions. there have been a few. Also tipos on ledger guides.
For the skirting, 1-1/2" is about right. I just take any old junk SPF two by and rip on the tablesaw with about a 7° angle. Unless you are right down on the ground with them, they will never see enough water to need PT and why complicate things.
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piffin thanks i really dont like using treated unless i absolutly have to sp thanks for reassuring me i did try the 7 deg bevel but that brought the contact point lower and gave in more of the angled look insted of the swept look..i did realize that you must 45 the corners of the "skirting strips " to make the corner the real corner if that makes any cents as for the decortive shingles the pre-cut stamped shingle ...to victorian for my taste but thanks for the web page..i will keep you posted on the progress its going to take alot of beer and burgers and swearing to get this done with my analness
"its going to take alot of beer and burgers and swearing to get this done with my analness"i'm not sure if Analness is a word. Try analasscity!;)
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how about ANAL-litic????
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let's don't be getting personal now;)
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got that phrase from and engineer's wife when she was commenting on her husband and how he went about doing most anything....
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I was thinking PT for bugs, not for water. The bugs won't eat the cedar but will love the pine.
"It is what it is."
Depends where it is,I guess, We get carp ants who liek pine cedar and spruce pretty equally
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I sould have known better than to question The Great Piffin.....:^)
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o it sits on the coast of oregon... ants seem to be a minor problem here , i dont think they like anywood unless there is water for them to drink in the nest..i found the combo ...i will use a piece of 2x2 doug fir, and a 5/8 ripped doug fir ...secured with stainless ringshang 6d.smitered inside and outside corners( messed that up last time)i will try to document if i knew how to post pics insted of linksthanks all
drift... <<< put #1 16 inch ceder shingles my 2 story house..with a 6 inch exposure...>>>>
i've never seen a #1 cedar shingle that is 16"
i've seen #1's that are 18"
and i've seen WC Extras that are 16"
in any case, if you are using a nominal 16" shingle , then your maximum sidewall exposure is < 5 1/3"
the theoretical max is 1/3 of the shingle length , so you get minimum double coverage everywhere
really, though, with a 16" shingle , i don't exceed 5" exposure Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
o well ...my shingle courses can range anyhwere from 4 1/4 to 6 5/16....on the same house!now that you say that , they may be 18 in but im pretty sure there 18in...thats all ive seen used out here...maybe the builders out here are cheap , i see that size and exposure used alot..proper window trim and flashing penerations right would be more important for keeping water out , like the importnce of using 30# paper..maybe its an eastcoast thing what are you guys paying for estern white?
localy we can get nice one cut for 190/sq
240 at the lumber yard
Check out this site:
http://www.decorativeshingles.com/
Is this what you're thinking about?
http://www.arcat.com/photos/photo.php?photo=/photos/cedarval/114063.jpg
I've noticed that on the islands off the coast of Maine (and MA, too) this style is common. On the mainland, corner boards are used much more often.
There is a fellow in Northport, ME who has a machine which cuts cedar logs into solid piece corner shingles. They might not work for the flare, but save time and money on the straight vertical edges.
contact: Harold Roy, 207 338-4936 his shop "From A Tree" is on rt 1.