Was running some 7inch wide maple thru a 12″delta planer and after a while started getting more chatter marks than earlier so thought to ask what would cause that to happen?
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Was running some 7inch wide maple thru a 12″delta planer and after a while started getting more chatter marks than earlier so thought to ask what would cause that to happen?
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Might be the way the grain of wood runs. Also check the feed speed and make sure the knives are good and tight. Regards, Dale
Feed speed works ok on narrow widths but the 7 inch stuff needs my help with a constant pressure pushing or it will stop and sit there giving a whole new meaning to the term chattermark:o)
clean the feed rollers..
clean the bed..
dry lube the bed..
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u mean I peed abed again?
be hate then that happens.
I take it the bed is the riding surface? Clean with what? Thanks.
Clean the bed with windex or similar. You need to clean off any gunk, like pine sap, tarnish, stuck on saw dust, etc. It's probabvly a chrome surface, and it needs to be shiny.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Well now I'm learning that there is more to planing than hooking up yer halogen lights in the driveway at 6 o'clock cause it's already dark and it's a rare dry and warm spell.
So what if the neighbors think I must be crazy. I don't care 'cause I'm the one with the earmuffs.
I'm supposing that running the boards out on to a single roller stand doesn't help matters either.
housebroken? Ya, I got a house that's plenty broke.
Edited 11/9/2006 9:20 pm ET by rez
I'm supposing that running the boards out on to a single roller stand doesn't help matters either.
doesn't hinder either..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
When you bought/got the planer, the manuf. has a guage for setting the blades. Some planers are equiped with a grinder, but they want to sell you more blades.
Planer chatter is caused many factors, but check feed rate and vibration.
Chuck S.
live, work, build, ...better with wood
vibration from what? Thanks.
be planing 101
feed rate too fast..
knief speed too slow..
kieves loose..
knieves not set the same..
knieves dull..
knief holder loose..
bearing getting ready to go on the knief holder..
bed dirty..
feed rollers dirty...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
ok
be I'm ok, yer ok. I'll clean and adjust the planer and......the planer will be ok.
don't ferget to dress the knives..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
don't ferget to dress the knives..
A transvestite planer?
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
only rez's...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I have a 20" planer. It used to be bolted to the floor. I now have it on a mobilier and get much more chatter than when it was bolted down. A bench top will vibrate. A certain amount of chatter is acceptible by AWI.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
AWI?
rez.AWI Architchtural.Woodworking Institute. Basically guidlines for Premium to Economy gradehttp://www.awinet.org/ Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
you not house broken???
turps or thinner and steel wool or green scrbbie on the rollers and bed.....
then brake cleaner on the bed if it's all metal....
dry lube the bed.. don't get any on the rollers..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
clean and dress the cutters and cutter head while yur at it..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
direction of wood grain...
feed rate too fast..
knief speed too slow..
kieves loose..
knieves not set the same..
knieves dull..
knief holder loose..
bearing getting ready to go on the knief holder..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
knieves not set the same.. one knife slipped a little
kieves loose.. loose enough to allow a knife to slip a little
knieves dull.. dull knives not a factor
knief holder loose.. might have allowed a knife to slip a little
Rez- (Sorry about that Jackwoody, wrong addressee)-
Maple can be a tough wood in more ways than one. Make sure you aren't trying to take too much off with one bite of the plane. Go easy. You could also be pushing it a bit with the 7". IIRC "Wood" magazine has had a few sorta basic articles on planers. Check the library for some of the older issues.
Don K.
EJG Homes Renovations - New Construction - Rentals
Edited 11/9/2006 10:05 pm ET by DonK
Rez,
Maple is a pretty hard hardwood, might want to make sure the knives are sharp, take a light cut , make sure rubber feed rollers are clean and the bed is waxed..
Good luck
All that everyone said.
The chatter is from too fast a feed generally. Plus maybe crud in the roller bed area or something stuck to the rubber drive rollers. First easiest is to make sure it is clean and the bed rollers are level. That is easy to check.
It could be operator difficulty. I had a bud help me with planeing on my 12 inch Craftsman two weeks ago. His patience with this weak sister tool taking too thin a cut was obvious. He pulled too fast and it looked far worse than normal. a thin redressing by myself cleaned up my surfaces.
Before you do any of this.. unplug the thing and realize it is sharp inside the recesses of the planer.
Now you might have one or two other problems. Change the blades lately? Either one of the two blades is dull (unlikely) or when the two new blades were replaced the depth or protrusion from the rotary head was set differently. To check it take off the safety chip shroud and look at the cutter head. I got a tool with mine that is shaped like a funky mu (kind of a cross between a T and a Y). You set the tips of the y on the head and the blade edge should touch inside the tool. Adjust accordingly.
It is hard to describe how to adjust, as this falls under the category of RTFI. The instructions have the benefit of pictures. Each blade is captured by 8 or so cap screws. The raise / lower of the blade is adjusted by 2 flat head machine screws. That is what makes shifting or leveling the blade so hard to do. Get a beer and a stool and take care of the adjustment. Then take a practice cut and see how it looks.
The last problem is a nightmare. That is that one the bearings has died. I had one crap out and the 6 dollar bearing was easy enough to find. (there are numbers on the dust shield) but getting it off and replacing it was accomplished by removing the head from the base and taking apart every stinking part on the planer. I don't think I'd do it again. All told I probably expended 48 hours of work on it spread over the two months it sat in my shop. (This is not in the instructions)
The way to tell if the bearing is bad is to rotate the cutter head by hand and feel for grinding or sloppy behavior. You would be at the grinding stage if you can't hear any different behavior.
Last thought on the planer noise. Of course I use the little roll up ear plugs but I've had my neighbors call the cops on my several times for the noise when I plane out doors. Pick your times to plane well. Cool windy days are best as their windows are closed and you don't have to breath that stuff.
Hope it helped.
Yes, I put new blades on a short time back without the use of the measuring tool as the planer was bought at auction years ago and pretty much sat till recently when I got a round tuit and the measuring tool, if I got it, was probably mislaid somewhere.
I had marked the place of the old blades and eyeballed the new blades. It came out well and had no trouble till late the other night noticing an increase in the chattermarks. So I will check adjustment and clean it to see what's what.
Perhaps a blade loosened and dropped down a tad.
Thanks all.
everybody sells setting gauges and dressing stones..
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Maple can have some crazy grain in addition to it being pretty hard. When I have seen this happen, it is usually a result of too fast a feed rate or too deep a cut - or both. Usually dull blades will leave burn marks, or burnish the wood on light passes. If you have a two-blade planer, you have to slow down. Or, the knives are not at equal hieght - essentially cutting with one blade.