Here a question,
You got an employee who been working for you for over twenty years, the average employee, no trouble, not a bad dude. He has his own company truck, brand new. company owned.
He ask to take the truck out of town over the weekend, non company business, 500 miles away. The truck has logo on the door. He does not drive the truck home, nobody does.
Would you let him?
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Yes take the truck and keep it out of strip club parking lots. :)
Would this out of town trip be to Memphis TN?
Doug
Sure as long as it's going to Memphis.
Pardon my fat fingers.
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You got a guy who's been working for your for over 20 years? God, if I could get that kinda loyalty I'd buy him the truck.
-duke
"A wrongdoer is often a man who has left something undone, not always one who has done something."--Marcus Aurelius
The issue here isn't loyalty so much as it is liability.
His insurance will not cover his personal use of a business vehicle (standard exclusion on private auto policies). And your business auto policy may not cover employee personal use, except for incidental use (for example, stopping at Dunkin Donuts on the way to the job site).
So if he is liable for injury to others using your business truck during extended personal use, you may be personally liable (no insurance), although this does vary by state and carrier.
Definitely worth checking into BEFORE allowing purely personal use.
And even if covered, is this a precedent you really want to set? How about other employees and their future requrests for personal use?
BruceM
If it were a family emergency I would probably give him my car or truck instead. No on the company vehical. Insurance and having every other employee wanting to do the same thing would be the reason. DanT
We have several Cargo-masters in our company.
Every year the guys load their bikes in there and take them to bike week in myrtle beach, sc.
At least he asked. It's insured? He fills it up with gas? Sure, I 'd say no problem. My dad had a company truck for about ten years, and his boss basically said, this is yours, you do what you want, go where you need to go, use your best judgement. You have to make the same assumptions, that he's not gonna charge $200 worth of fuel to the company account and not do something stoopid with the truck.
I would say no, just from the legal/ insurance side ( but Im no lawyer and know crap about insurance/business). If you like the guy, what about renting him a truck for the weekend? That way you would be covered legal/ insurance wise, and your good-will gesture might pay you back 10 fold.
Just my thoughts.
At over twenty years, I would find a way to accommodate him, even if I had to explain to the other employees that there were some special circumstances.
John
I would fire him on the spot just for asking, and make sure he did not get a dime of unemployment benefits either.
You are joking right?????Live by the sword, die by the sword....choose your sword wisely.
I thought it was a funny response, you were the only one to pick up on it.I was very generous to the men when I had a 4 man crew.I gave them vacation, sick days, year end bonus and more. Nobody ever quit on me.
If thats a joke, I don't see the humor!.............................................
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Because my response was so wildly exaggerated I thought it would be funny. Cant win them all.
I'm with you. He should be fired immediatly, shot, hanged from a tree and his village burned to the ground. It will teach other employees to respect their place in society. The nerve of this empty headed fool, thinking trucks are simply for the taking.
at least ya skipped the tar and feathering...
you must be getting soft hearted...
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I was injecting a little satire into the conversation, I do not know what you are doing.You should fill out your profile so we know more about you. Welcome to BT.
Google satire.
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Luka
Google satire.
Exactly! Should have been obvious when he said he'd prevent him from ever getting a dime of unemployment.
BTW, I dont go to the tav so I assume that that tag line of yours was somehow used in there? And let me quess who he was directing it at!
Doug
I don't remember where it was used.I do know that no matter who it was directed at, I felt that it was applicable to several people, not just one.And I have it as a tagline as a reminder to myself. Not to anyone else.=0)
Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06
Brownbagg, I have a feeling the employee is you. Why wouldn't you just rent a vehicle for the weekend and avoid the complications?
Ask him what he needs the truck for.
Maybe renting a truck for the weekend would work for both parties- the company doesn't have the liability, and he gets the use of a truck.
If he's that good an employee, I'd suggest at least splitting the rental.
where ever he's going, call ahead with a cc# and have him pick up a tool for the business.
now its company business.
If the truck is company owned then your business auto policy should cover you if an employee is using the vehicle for non-business purposes. Its usually a separate little add on fee for this - about $200 or so per vehicle here in NJ - but well worth it. There are also several other things you should check that you are covered for. For instance, if you employee is coming into work, driving his personal vehicle, and you give him a call and ask him to pick up a pound of nails on his way in. He picks up the nails and then gets into an accident - your company can be held liable for this accident. In NJ most drivers sign a lawsuit threshold waiver with their personal policies to save money, however, its doesn't apply to accidents with commercially registered vehicles. Therefore if your employee mentions to the police or even at a later deposition that he was picking up nails - bang - your company will be named a defendent too - and worse there will likely be a cap as to what they could sue your employe for, however, they could sue you for any amount, although usually, they will sue for your coverage limit, which of course since you are a business will be much higher anyway. I say this all from personal experience as it's happened to my company - my insurance paid for everything, but I had purchased all those extra little options - just make sure you do too.
Yes... if he worked for me... he wouldn't even have to ask.... I had one guy that worked for me ask to use my M3 one weekend... he kept it so long he put tires on it...
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Rent him the truck Charge him a couple hundred dollars. Then when he returns if nothing is damaaged return the money to him Have him sign a waiver and tear it up upon return nothng has to change hands even but it will cover all parties involved.