WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I paid $32 for just 50′ of 12-2 today!!!!!!
How can anyone afford to build anymore?
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I paid $32 for just 50′ of 12-2 today!!!!!!
How can anyone afford to build anymore?
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Paid $240.00 per 1000' last week (.24/ft) Same price for 250' rolls. Cost per ft. went up on smaller quantites. Still high but not quite the $.64/ft. Your paying.
Around the 1st of the year prices were around $.50/ft. for me.
Saving my pennies and buying Freeport McMoran stock (Copper Mining)
I saw some copper sheet metal on sale @ about $10/lb..... makes for some expensive mistakes with my new brake I'm practicing with.
"Saving my pennies and buying Freeport McMoran stock (Copper Mining)"
That sounds like a winner to me.
Scrap here was at 2.65-2.75 a LB last week.
I think new sheet was 5.33, for 16oz. per LB./Sq.FT.
That 10 buck a LB sounds WAY high, mebbe 32 OZ CU at 10 per sq.ft...but no way, is it 10 a LB.Parolee # 40835
>>>>>>>>>>>but no way, is it 10 a LBI bet it's close to that from low volume dealers. I'm sending it out the door at nearly $8/lb for 16 oz.http://grantlogan.net/
Accck!
Before you bend it up?
Geezes...I gotta get with the program, I was telling Dale, I'd rather order 5" K end caps, then site fab them. I think we waste too much time fiddling and soldering...I mean buy them myself for the jobs.
Now ya got me thinking.Parolee # 40835
Oy, veh. That's more than three times what I paid four years ago.
-- J.S.
Some times our tapcon holes for downspout straps are loose in soft brick/stone..so we'd cut a sliver as a feather to get a bite ( of copper, useually the same strap we are fastening), but I once had an epiphany, and used a brass poprivet shank instead..worked like dream.
I better keep tighter reigns on our scrap.
I think I read that other than Al, Cu was the most available element on the planet ( metal speaking) even more abundant than Fe.
But, I excell at being misinformed.Parolee # 40835
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Actually, the earth is thought to be primarily a ball of molten iron, but most of that iron is somewhat out of reach of those of us perched on the crust...
Thanks, that was cool.
I knew Al was way up there, as well as Manganese, and zinc.
I believe our roofing cu comes from post consumer waste, nasa gets the good stuff..that I know.Parolee # 40835
>>>>>>>>>>I believe our roofing cu comes from post consumer waste, nasa gets the good stuff..that I know.Building copper comes mostly from PRE consumer waste. Off falls from stampings, etc. Most of the recycled stuff goes to China.http://grantlogan.net/
I read that wrong the first time you explained that,thanks.Parolee # 40835
I here whale burns pretty good light, na PETA would be knockin on th door. Maybe candles.....that wouldn't work....bees dyin off.....trees? Too many tree huggers per tree.....IGUESS WERE STUCK WITH ELECTRICITY!!!
Listen up .. I do the crazy around here ( SNIF)...
Parolee # 40835
Building Materials COPPER SHEETS 16 oz. 3' x 10' $295.ea. Call 601-xxx-xxxxPublished in Times-Picayune on 05/04
The price sounded way high to me also.... so I called the guy and he said the price was down to $225 a sheet.....$7.50/lb. This guy sounds like a side of road dealer in Biloxi.... Haven't called any major dealers yet. Hate fishing for prices when I'm not ready to buy.
Yeoww.
I am glad I just install it.
I do know that Grant chewed up about 5K lbs. In the week b4 his vacation last month.
I guess bying in bulk helps some, but still, that is some high dollars in your neck of the woods.
I just realized, on an easy walkable roof, we can install 2+ sq. witha moderate pace, per day. At 1k a sq. for materials alone and two guys humping for a 10 hour day, my buddy Grant ain't settin the world on fire.
Once again, we gotta get faster.Parolee # 40835
Just treat all those end cuts and scraps like your 401K.
I just ripped out all the wiring of a fire restoration I'm working on. I was going to send it all to the dump....... Rethinking that.... It might pay my bar tab next week.
Naw, we return the bigger hunks for Grant to slice up into tabs or cleats, the rest goes in a drum, and back to him for HIM to mess with it...I don't think I'd FU with it , for scrap value..I have a life.
My tool belt gets full of picking up little bits at the end of the day, I bet I could chunk them in a bucket at home, but I tried that at first, and all I got was skeeters in a bucket...and almost divorced...
I re-play the scrap to him, it ain't worth the effort for me.
We did score a major tear off a yr. ago or so, we divided up the 700, but I kept the part that was "mine"...good green shid, never know when ya need a patch.Parolee # 40835
Years ago an old friend of mine worked at a junk yard. He would pick up the random brass fitting and toss into a bucket. Those random pieces added up and each March he would sell the buckets (back to the yard where he worked!) and pretty much financed his trip to "Bike Week" in FL.When I was wireing houses for a time I never thought about the small pieces. Now they go into a bucket!
>>>>>>>>>COPPER SHEETS 16 oz. 3' x 10' $295.ea. Call 601-xxx-xxxxThat's about what you're gonna pay for small lots. I buy by the crate and shop several dealers for the best price since I buy so much. But, if you walked into my shop and wanted to buy one sheet, the best I could do would be $227 and it's gone up considerably since I bought the stock I have now. Here's the price coming out of the factory:http://www.reverecopper.com/metalval.htmIt's up to $3.99/lb before a distributor touches it.http://grantlogan.net/
Well I see the aluminum cans in the back of my truck are staying steady around $1.77/lb. They don't seem to be keeping up with inflation.... so there goes that reason for not cleaning out my truck.
I see a trend in the copper market and I'm going to short it if it goes above 4.22.
I just bought a new brake last month-Tapco pro14- spend more time playing with it then doing anything of importance.---Made some cool crab traps for the kids out of some thin gage SS.
Boats,
I saw that you are using a metal brake on your copper, so maybe you might give me some advice about sheet copper....
Back in 2000, at a flea market, I bought 20-30 sheets of copper. The fellow said he worked for Raytheon Corp. near Dallas and sold them for less than $2 each. They measure about 18"X22" and each one is about as thick as two or three playing cards.
I would like to make a cupola for a 16'X32' two-story gambrel roof storage shed, and use two sheets per each side of the small curved and angled roof. Where could I look to learn how to make a center seam so it won't leak and still look nice?
I wish I'd bought Copper stock, too!! Three years ago I had a competior's 20% Off discount coupon that Home Depot would honor. I could have purchased 3/0 copper on a 1,000 ft reel to improve my workshop's power level. It would have cost just over $300 including tax....Nowadays......that same reel is marked just over $1,400!!!
Thanks,
Bill
Edited 5/4/2007 5:42 pm ET by BilljustBill
Tell you what Bill... I'll double your money on your flea market find---$4ea ;-)
As far as advise on copper roofing your outta luck from me.... Sphere and Seeyou are the experts and will delve out some good advise I'm sure.
I bought my brake mostly for trim work.... at $50 to $75 a day from the rental store it has paid for itself.
The project I'm working is also going to have a cupola...... Aprox. 6'X2'. Planned on shingling it, but keeping my options open. So I'll listen intently for advise given. I'm also recessing some hip dormers that will have standing seam for the recessed portion of the roof.
So all in all I'm on the learning curve myself.
With 18"x22" material it sounds like you could make some nice pans-- either flat or standing seam--cut them in 1/2 and have some 6x 22 pans for standing seam would look sharp IMO. Good luck.
I don't know what it is today, but I got a quote a couple months ago for some 500MCM copper wire - it was around $9.00/foot.
When I was paying attention to wire prices, it peaked last May around $320 for 1k' of 12-2. IIRC, the last time I was at Lowes, it was around $250.
jt8
"One of the true tests of leadership is the ability to recognize a problem before it becomes an emergency." -- Arnold H. Glasgow
$32 for 50 feet?? Sounds like an extreme penalty for buying the short roll. I paid $64 for 250 feet about a month ago. Last fall I needed 2000 feet to wire my shop and it was $320 per thousand. Recently bought some 6/3 and right now it's $2.36 per foot cut to length less than 100 feet.
In Feb, I was PO'ed 'cause could not find any 10 AWG THHN at my favorite surplus store (Boeing surplus, Kent WA)
Then, they raised the price to $2.40 a pound from $1 a pound and now there is all I want, but about 500 ft now costs over twice as much.
Good thing Cu wire weighs a lot, or the EBAY vultures would run the price right up to retail like they have done with a lot of other surplus deals at local levels. .