curved carpet backerboard,what to use?
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I am installing a corner whirlpool tub unit, this has a curved front on it extending all the way to the sidewalls, 50″ radius. This is to be installed on a 7″ high raised deck,also with a curved front. flooring is to be carpet which will extend up and over the curb of the raised deck. What can I use to form the curved portion of the deck as a backer for the carpet & pad? I’m thinking maybe 1/8 ” masonite, 2 or 3 layers. Any suggestions?
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I think you are crazy for installing carpet around a tub. Anything you could use that is bendable is not going to be waterproof.
i'm guessing you mean some sort of astroturf or other outdoor carpet?
can you cut flat arc shape from that plastic bath surround stuff (brand name escapes me)
No, regular carpet (I know, not best choice) But HO is an older women very meticulous about things, room had carpet already for 10 years b4 this remodel, no sign of any water on subfloor, even right in front of previous shower. Whatever I use has to accept staples for carpet. I am still thinking 1/8" masonite (which is water resistant) or 1/8" luaan plywood
Stapling Masonite might be hard. It is something you should probably test on a scrap first. Maybe use few staples and supplement with adhesive.
I don't know of any code that will allow carpet in a bathroom. Better ask your inspector first.
I don't get the feeling that this is a job that will require an inspection, sounds like a retro fit/ remodel..and I have never heard of carpet ( or any flooring) being not code approved, with the possible exception of some provisions in commercial work.
But thats not what he asked. Anyway.
I'd be inclined to use two layers of Bending ply , AKA Wiggle wood and seal it well prior to wrapping it.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
IRC R307.2And remodels require permits where I come from.
Good thing I ain't "where you come from" LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
It says that "shower WALL TILE shall be non absorbant material"
What else does it say about FLOORING or Carpet specifically?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Go read it again. Wall and floors of bathtub and shower spaces.
It means specifically that you can't put carpet in a room with a bath or shower. It's been interpreted that way for as lang as I can remember.I'm glad they require permits for remodel. I wonder where you are that they don't.
No thanks, not my project and I won't dick around with you searching code..you win.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I already knew I won, I know my code. But thanks for the concession.
That's going to be quite a surprise to all the contractors who install carpet in bathrooms in new homes in Florida. I don't see it as much as I did 10 years ago but I still see plenty, all inspected too.
I don't know the code in FL. Next time I won't point out possible code violations when someone asks anything. jesus.
Was not aware of the carpet phrohibtion in full baths.
Am aware of in the UPC toilets need to be caulked to the floor. What color caulk is recommended for carpet? Push or pull yer finger to tool it?
gonna learn how to spell one of these days
Though not the best choice, we see carpet quite often in bathrooms, I am not aware of any code that prohibits it. In the subject bathroom, carpet was origonally installed and it was certainly inspected then. (about 10 years old) The subfloor was in great shape & showed no signs of moisture at all. Yes,we are required to have permits & inspections here, however that was not the question, was it?
No it wasn't the question, but I thought it would be useful information. I only suggested that you ask your inspector about it before you proceed. You may find that he will not allow it and your time researching a solution and installing the carpet was wasted.According to the IRC you can't put carpet in a room with a bathtub or shower. Actually they define it as the space. So it would be up to your jurisdiction to define that further. In MN it's the whole room and certainly the tub deck. You've heard of the IRC correct?
Tempered hardboard won't take staples.
If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
I beg to differ. Not Swingline paper staples, but narrow crown pnuematic work just fine. I had stapled a few cabinet backs in the good old days.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
Well, most cabinet backs I've seen were not very well tempered. And besides you were stapling THROUGH the hardboard into something else. Once you get a staple into hardboard it's not apt to hold very well.
If your view never changes you're following the wrong leader
True to the second part, but as to the first, I thought the same would be true in true temperd hardboard. It was some blue print storage units for a civil eng office and thats what they wanted.
It is hard stuff, tough on router bits too. The Phenolic is almost as bad as Bakelite.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"Success is not spontaneous combustion, you have to set yourself on Fire"
I agree, carpet is not the best choice around a tub but what customer wants, customer gets (usually)
Carpet around a tub sound weird to me too.But isn't luan moisture resistant and bendable(the <1/4 in. stuff).I'd at least worry less about that around a tub than carpet.
If it's going to stay dry then ordinary plywood should work, though tempered hardboard (the building material formerly known as Masonite) would be better from a water standpoint. The problem with hardboard is that it doesn't take a set very well, so it'll have to be fastened down much better and you may have trouble getting a good radius at the edges.
If you end up using plain plywood I would suggest at least treating the edges (if not the entire surface) with some sort of sealant -- varnish, oil paint, etc.
Keep in mind that humidity will be high in the area even if splashing doesn't happen.