Found this on a home inspection forum …
“When asked if you can do something, tell’em “Why certainly I can”, then get busy and find a way to do it.” T. Roosevelt
Found this on a home inspection forum …
“When asked if you can do something, tell’em “Why certainly I can”, then get busy and find a way to do it.” T. Roosevelt
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It should be okay. Isnt that a load bearing lineset?
How do things like that get by inspectors?
That plumber oughta be hung by his nuts, but it looks like the carpenters should have considered layout when framing too.
I'm sure you must know more of the details behind this one...
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>> That plumber oughta be hung by his nuts, but it looks like the carpenters should have considered layout when framing too. <<Piffin,You're right,every plumber who does that should be hung by his nuts. There's no excuse.Let's say the carpenter didn't lay out for the plumbing and it is 100% his fault. The plumber should've made a call to the builder/gc to get the carpenter over there to move the joists BEFORE he cut the joist. The carpenter could've come over and did all that first.Let's say the carpenter did lay out his joists for the plumber and then the layout was changed and there was that joist in the way. The plumber should've called the builder/gc to get the carpenter over there to fix it FIRST.Either way the plumber should never cut the joists like that but those type of plumbers are all idiots who keep doing this. I can't imagine what goes through their head when they come into this situation and just cut away structural joists and think that they can get away with it. They definitely must eat the glue that they use along with sniffing it...Joe Carola
I typed up a post much like yours, I agree on all fronts.
I have layed out for plumbing then the toilet gets thrown to the other side of the bathroom. The joists have been slaughtered and cut into kindling and I get the call to fix it. Fix what? Theres nothing left.
I had a nice chat with a local plumber who was notorious for hacking joists. I told him you cut it you fix it. Your check will be held until it's fixed.
If it's in the way call me, I will be there by the end of the day to fix it.
Things change all the time on new work and on existing homes. New work I always lay out for the plumbers because it's MY JOB to do that as far as I'm concerned. If I make a mistake and got a call from a builder/gc and was asked to come and fix it, I would be there as quick as I can. If I don't understand some of the plumbing I will call the builder/gc and have him bring the plumber there and I will walk through with him where to put my joists so that they're out of his way.That doesn't mean that the plumber should just go ahead and cut the joists because he doesn't have time to wait around and has to be other places. It means that he can start somewhere else until I fix it. Not just cut through the beam and than all his plumbing has to be ripped out anyway so that new beams can be put in. Their so stupid that they will try and charge the builder/gc extra to replace their work even though their 100% wrong.If plumbing is in my way it NEVER gets cut until I call the builder/gc and he cuts it out or has his plumber cut it out. It's just common sense which is something the plumbers who do this don't have.....Joe Carola
Story of my life.... what I'd give for 4 more inches of pipe.
Why didn't the plumber just drop it below the joist?
what happened to offset toilet flanges?
>> what happened to offset toilet flanges? <<I don't know, a good plumber should though......Joe Carola
Pif, I don't know anything about this. I was surfing a home inspection forum and found this posted, with very little discussion. Now I can't find that particular thread! If I find it again, I'll see what other info is available.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Ok, I found the pic. It's on a site called inspectorsjournal dot com and was posted by a guy who goes by "bain" from Lexington Ky.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
FastEddie- ya gotta learn how to copy a link.
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Like this? The bain post is about #18-20 from the beginning.
http://www.inspectorsjournal.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2554
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The builder said that is was fine. He must be related to the plumber who cut it........Joe Carola
With the 2 I-joist , ah, lookouts? "kind-a-like-headers?" whatever they are attached to the cut joist, I'm thinking the joist was cut by the framers, not the plumber
Frankly, given its location - close to a foundation corner, I'll betcha real world not a big deal (What's above it?)
I'd call it out for correction, of course, but I wouldn't hold my breath 'til I turned blue.
(And I'd be looking more closely at the rest of the framing than usual.)
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Gee, the left side is up next to the wall, and the right seems to have some nice gray cable holding it up. Should be ok right?(;-)