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Deck Rail Design

JohnCujie | Posted in General Discussion on October 31, 2009 04:00am

Looking for some input on a rail design for this house. Other than a variation of a 2×2 system. Retired couple, budget concerns of course.
Couldn’t find anything on the web.

Don’t think I could match existing as I doubt I could find 1×12’s that would hold up, at least here.

John

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  1. runnerguy | Oct 31, 2009 04:14am | #1

    Wow! Nice house!

    Don't know about the pickets but if it where me I'd look to do the flower box thing along the rail. Your house reminds me of those great dwellings in Bavaria sans flower boxes.

    Runnerguy

    1. JohnCujie | Oct 31, 2009 04:22am | #2

      Not as great close up. Not my house, a job I'm working on.

  2. MikeSmith | Oct 31, 2009 04:22am | #3

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    we had to match a similar design on a chalet... we made all of the balusters out of Azek

    Mike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
    1. MikeSmith | Oct 31, 2009 04:27am | #4

      here's that thread with the azek balusters

      http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=83035.251

       

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      1. JohnCujie | Oct 31, 2009 04:44am | #5

        Thanks Mike. How is the Azek attached? Looks like he is face screwing the bottom and the top is in a groove. Probably too much $ for my project.John

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          Matt | Nov 01, 2009 08:55pm | #11

          You say that the prob is you can't get 1x12 material.  How about something like the attached sketch? It would use 1x6 or 1x8.  Looking at your location, maybe cedar? 

      2. runnerguy | Oct 31, 2009 04:45am | #6

        That's cool Mike. Nice work!! I'm curious however, how did you all fare in cutting that scroll work?

        I ask, because from time to time I'm into very decorative birdhouses. Built many out of wood but switched to Azek to have them last longer (and supply was no problem. Simply went to construction sites and pulled 24" pieces out of the dumpster or even asked the trimmer, if he was there, to set the waste aside for my later pickup).

        Anyway, I found the Azek heated up with my scrollwork, melted but then solidified again after I had passed through. The only way I could get around the problem was to dip the blade in water about every inch.

        But again, nice work!

        Runnerguy

         

         

        1. MikeSmith | Oct 31, 2009 04:59am | #7

          can't remember if the thread  shows... but we made a pattern and used a follower router trimmer to make the partsMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

          1. deskguy | Oct 31, 2009 08:28am | #8

            any chance those existing boards could be pulled, lightly planed, liberal use of a wood restorer product, and then reinstalled and painted?????

  3. Piffin | Oct 31, 2009 04:41pm | #9

    Here's my half baked idea

    Those gaps are greater than 4" so that needs to be corrected.

    using the theme of that arc that replicates in the casings is a good idea

    So I would cut those same pattern from sheet goods, and do the layout in the sheet so that you are saving the off cut between the pieces for use

    Then do the install so that you have alternating male/female of the cuts, with about 3-1/2" to 4" spacing

    For sheet panels use Azec or 3/4" MDO both sides finished.

    Less waste, same basic design, and safer than current, not rot prone.

     

     

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  4. Piffin | Oct 31, 2009 04:42pm | #10

    I might even paint the male/female slats alternating colours - say brwn to match current on the main slats, and cream to match the siding on the waste infill pieces.

     

     

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    Dinosaur | Nov 01, 2009 10:01pm | #12

    One traditional 'swiss chalet' railing design is the Christmas-tree cutout; we make these out of 1x6; double them up and cut two at a time with a jigsaw. Tree silhouette only shows every second board.

    Some areas with a lot of ski chalets lof that sort, you can even buy that pattern stock from the lumberyard.

    Suggest you use cedar; pine if budget is an issue. Make sure the bottom rail is rabbetted and not dadoed, and that the floor of the rabbet is sloped to drain.

    We usually toenail these in place with 16-ga air nails.

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      Dam_inspector | Nov 01, 2009 11:16pm | #13

      I'd make em out of some nice ACQ treated lumber.

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        Dinosaur | Nov 01, 2009 11:34pm | #14

        Hah, hah.

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          Dam_inspector | Nov 01, 2009 11:36pm | #15

          I thought you'd bite or snap on that one.

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            Dinosaur | Nov 02, 2009 12:14am | #17

            GROWFF!!

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          Dam_inspector | Nov 01, 2009 11:38pm | #16

          Frenchy would suggest getting cheap black walnut from a sawmill. Actually not a bad idea if you can actually get cheap black walnut.

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            Dinosaur | Nov 02, 2009 12:17am | #18

            Ask David Dowd.

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    Handydan57 | Nov 02, 2009 01:39am | #19

    Hi John

    It wouldn't be cheap, but you could reproduce that shape in 1x12 Pvc trim

    Handy Dan

  7. glenaspen | Nov 02, 2009 01:58am | #20

    Just a thought but instead of 1x12's you could use 1x6's, cut the pattern on one side but with less depth so you could remain under 4" at the widest point, and then put a gap between the straight edges, anywhere from 1-4". It would still carry the theme of the window trim without the need for wide boards.

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