I was getting stock ready for my waintscotting project here in my home, and when I was putting the oak through my planer, the rollers were not taking the stock through the machine as it has done for years. Does anyone have any experience with this model? It would appear that I need to replace the hard rubber rollers inside. They are moving fine, but not grabbing. Any insight here???
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The first thing to do is to clean the rollers. IIRC with denatured alcholo. Then wax the table.
Those will fix most table top planer feed problems.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
will do. THanks."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
did the denatured alcohol on the 2 hard rubber rollers. It worked a lot better, but not completely up to speed, so to speak. I am beginning to wonder if it's the oak.??? And DO the rollers wear out at all? Anyway, the denatured alcohol was terrific. And I"ll probably treat it again in a few days to catch what I probably missed the first time. THANKS!"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
This comes up about once a month here. Mine does he same thing. I need to clean my machine. I dont use it near as much as i'd like to.
U. T. - if memory serves this problem is a sticking point with Dewalts , if you go over to Knots and do a search there will be able to elaborate more on this . I have the the Delta and pretty happy with it . i do the denatured alcohol and paste wax also but rough up the urethane roller AFTER there clean with 80 grit sand paper. Do that search though over at knots .......... k
I don't own a DeWalt but I'd guess that they have some sort of adjustment for those rollers. I think the Deltas do so I'd imagine the DW's do to.
Check your manual.
Doug
I've owned this since 1998. It's the first time I've had ANY issues with it. I've dutifully sharpened the blades, I've kept the in- and outfeed tables in line; and I've been very careful about taking too much off at a time. This is the first time I've had any issues at all with it. I don't know why I've been so lucky, but I am not very happy with it now. I cleaned it twice with denatured alcohol, and I got it to work enough to get my finish thickness on my wainscotting stock. But I have to see if it will be getting worse, or staying the same. I can't keep working with it the way it is, and I'm sure the cost to replace the roller will be prohibitive. As to whether I can ADJUST the rollers, I'll have to see about that. That would seem to me to be the solution here.....that would make it WAY too easy...LOL."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
I have one of those planers and have had the same problem with oak and some of the other harder hardwoods. I would try;
1) clean the rollers as you have done
2) try softer wood such as popler or other and see how it goes
3) I assume you tried taking smaller cuts.
4) consider if your blades are truely sharp. Try and get them resurfaced for about $25 or buy new ones for about $45
5) recheck the feed tables for level and then wax
6) I wonder if those rollers are gear or belt driven I can't get out to take a look right now, but I wonder if there is an adjustment
Truely sharp blades might make a world of difference.
Dave E.
I need to pull my manual, if I can find it after almost 10 years. I tried to turn the rollers by hand, as you can do with the blades, but was unable. Yes, the blades are sharp, I change them regularly and the actual cut is fine. I have had MUCH duller blades in the past before putting in sharpened ones. But I have several sets of blades that are ready to go, and I will put them in, if I can't get it back to performance condition with all the other steps.. Many thanks for responding. Happy New Year!"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
I've been pondering my options if I can't this thing to resurrect ... here is an interesting article which is not entirely in agreement with what I've read in
BT...http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1493&articleID=572583&artnum=1Their clear winner was the DeWalt 735. I don't think this forum holds the same opinion."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
i read that article before i bought a planer.
i did a post on the735 a couple weeks ago,its under tools.i bought a new 735,brought it home run about a 100 ft and it wouldn't feed,plus the snipe was bad.you would cut off the last 4" every time. took it back and got another one. i searched the web and to tell you the truth i couldn't find 10%that said it was a great planer,no problems.
so i loaded up the second one,still wrapped in plastic and took it back and got my money back. really don't have a clue what to buy now. larryif a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
Look at the Delta or the Ridgid. Also check out Steel City. Dont know much about them but some folks really speak highly of their toolshttp://www.toolking.com/steelcity_40200.aspxI know my next major purchase I will give them a serious look t.Oh BTW
before you took the planer back did you check the I/F & O/F table adjustments?
Edited 1/2/2008 12:05 pm by Sancho
I read your post with great interest, and I thank you for reminding me of what you had said. People like Makita, but I want 3 knives. My 733 has been outstanding for almost 10 years. I am more motivated now than before to getting it working better, if not completely up to speed. I have a friend who has an industrial Grizzly planer with the rotary cutter, (not knives). It's pretty nice and he said I can use it whenever. I m more inclined to take him up on it!!"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
finally found the manual. nothing mentioned in it at all about rollers, replacement, adjustment or otherwise. ARGHHHH.
"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
With my old Ryobi, when the shop was really cold, the rubber rollers would harden up and not pull the wood. I solved the problem by warming the machine a little before using it. I found and salvaged a little flat plate coffee cup warmer that was perfect. But an incandescent bulb in a trouble light worked too.
AP-10? Still the benchmark in portable planers IMO.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
"AP10?"Yes it was, and is. The tool that started it all off.I put thousands of feet through mine. It saved me from the tyranny of the "professional" wood shops.I sold mine to my favourite niece's husband, when I needed something bigger. That's how confident I was (and still am) in it.As an aside, I paid $750 plus tax (incl. an extra set of blades) at least 20 years ago. Prices sure have dropped for our tools!Alan
I got mine in lieu of overtime wages. made a deal with the company I was working for to take the wage money and have it applied to a tool buying account at the local LY. The then DW didn't think much of the deal but I loved it . Still have it and use it quite often. It is pretty rare for me to run into the need to plane anything more than 10" wide, and if so I have access to 24" planers and have a Delta Rockwell 13" shop planer in my shop .
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I just had the same problem with the same planer this last month. You want to clean the rollers, that will help, but what I found was really the problem was the bottom gets sticky and needs to be degreased and waxed. The stainless steel bed may look shiny ,like mine did, but once I cleaned it and sprayed some Topcote(from Rockler)it made a huge difference, the binding stopped. You can spray some WD-40 on there if you're in a rush, but don't tell the guys from Knots.
yeah, good point. I cleaned the rollers twice,but forgot to wax the bottom. I use Topcote as well, so I will get to it today. So far, I'll post a pic of what I was doing..I have yet to put the panels in, but I had a lot of oak to plane."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
I thought I'd update this post.
Last weekend I took a closer look at this beast and discoverered that over the years, the nuts which serve as stops to the in- and out-feed tables had loosened and worked their way out...or away and up from the base. Thus, the tables were MUCH higher than they should have been. As it turns out, the contact with the rollers were limited and there was more pressure placed on the metal frame instead of the direct entry of the wood into the the blades/rollers. After fiddling around with it for a bit, I got both trays adjusted and used it this weekend with total success. I would say it saved me from having to buy another thickness planer. I had no idea what I was going to do if that adjustment did not work. Seeing as DeWalt was clueless with this issue, I just thought I'd post my success story!!
"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan