Just saw the add for this in Tools of the Trade.
http://www.toolbarn.com/product/dewalt/DW745/
I like the idea. Most of my kitchen jobs I only have to rip a couple of fillers, and my Ridgid weighs about a 100lbs. Not to mention the amount of space it takes up.
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Yeah I saw that. I think its pretty cool but a little pricey or what it does. I agree with you that it would take care of most of my needs but i'm not sure that the convience would justify the price.
It's kinda cute for a dewalt...
I'm going to e-mail a link to Buck, he was looking for a little baby saw a while back
He's a DW mn as I remember too. It seems to have the same features as my saw, but smaller rip capacity and a few pounds lighter.
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I just saw the page ad in the recent FHB.
That explains why the other model has gone down in price.
I dunno, to me I think that if it aint got a 24" rip capacity it aint worth buying.
I too saw the ad in the latest FHB and that day was in HD and there it was! But it wasn't out of the box. It's actually quite an attractive item because of the size, and 95% of my cut widths are 16" or less. I would still have a bigger saw, it's just that a saw like this takes up so little room in the truck.
For a third the price get a SmartGuide... it's perfect for that kind of application.
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You know, Paul, I like the Smart Guide too...and I think it's great for plywood and all kinds of odd-angle cuts as well. But for straight rips in dimensional lumber, I just don't think it's as fast as a TS, even with the Repeaters or the Cabinetmaker. Now, I don't have the Repeaters, so I can't say for sure, but I'm thinking if I have to rip 6 pieces of filler, I can do it faster on a TS which has an accurate fence.
That's the whole reason I bought a portable TS. I had an exterior trim job this past summer where I used the Smartguide for all the rips, and it took a long time to measure, mark, set the rail, etc etc. I just this weekend did an interior job and I used the TS for the rips and it went much faster.
I'm not knocking the Smartguide...I like it. For me, though, it's not the be all-end all. Maybe I'm just more used to the "old" way.
Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
Well, I think for some situations the repeaters make all the difference, granted. But for me I sure prefer heaving the SG into the back of the truck over a TS. For tapered fillers etc, I think the SG is much much easier and safer.
PaulB
Agreed there. I was just talking about straight cuts.
I got the Smartguide and stopped there...I haven't seen a lot of the newer stuff in a while, nor have I been to the website to see the pix.
Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=32440&highlight=cutting+small+pieces
You don't need the Repeaters or the cabinetmaker for this type of cuts.
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Edited 9/26/2006 11:36 pm ET by davidwood
Yes, I know. I have used it for this before and it works well. My point is that it was not as fast as doing repeat rips of the same width as a tablesaw is (for me at least).
If I had to rip lots of really narrow pieces, I would take the time and use the Smartguide because I don't like my fingers dancing too close to a blade.
Maybe someday I'll know a little something.
Osama's easier to find than a smartguide. I went to their site and found a local distributor. Once I got there not did they not stock them he all but pleaded with me not to buy one, but if I insisted, heres the web site, good luck.
As far as this table saw, havent seen one out of the box yet. Maybe if its really small it would be good for trim type jobs. Other than that I might as well just bring the Bosch. I like to have the full 25" cut width and it seems like the only time I really need the saw is when its not on the truck.
So if I bought the DW all my cits would probably need to be 17".
Murphy's always on the site.
If you buy a SG and are unhappy with it, they have a 30 day money back guarantee, including shipping. I've never met anyone (and I know manyyyy SG owners) that was unhappy, so whatya got to lose? Call them up, ask for Dino and tell him PaulB said hello... you won't be sorry!
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I spent some time in the new Harleyville (sp??) catalogue that just came to my house...lots of eye candy. And right in the middle was a great write-up on the EZ system. Very nicely done and great placement. It's a great catalogue and a nice presentation.....look for it."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
do you mean " Hartville" ?
probably!!...I noted that I was not sure of the spelling. That sounds right. Have you seen the catalogue?"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program" -Ronald Reagan
Yes.
If I remember right , they're somewhere in Ohio.
They've got some stuff I haven't seen in other catalogs- the EZ system being one of them.
Ok gents,
I picked up my dewalt 745 yesterday, and I think I shattered the 4-hour man rule all to heck. Got it home and unpacked it, called a freind of mine, and the wife came out of the house. In about 20 mins I was wiping the drool off of it from my friend, and my wife was contemplating projects for me.
So my official opinion is: A nice and light saw for what it is. Twenty pounds lighter than my 744, so my wife can tote it around when she's helping me <G>. I ran a piece of 3/4 plywood through it cause I just had to cut a board for a shelf I've been working on. It may find a permanent home on the truck, but think I'll store it in the trailer for now. Bottom line is; good saw, nice and light, and performs like it's bigger brother.
Michael
Now we're talkin'! Good review. I think I want one.
If the other guy who bought one hasn't used it yet, I vote he mails it to me, and I'll shatter the 4 hour rule myself.
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I used it on Friday. Works fine, but definitely needs a zero clearance insert.
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I honestly didn't pay too much attention to the blade. Figure I'll pick up a nice blade for finish work. Truth be told, I kept the same blade on my 744 that it came with when I got it 4 years ago. I'm doing mostly rough ripping, so finish isn't critical. Think it'll find a place on the truck after all, right beside my 8 1/2 inch DeWalt slider. I need some motivation from you all to post some pics of my setup....any takers?
Don't know if the rest of the group noticed, but its got a nice cord wrap on it, and even a push stick! I can see that getting lost pretty quick though.
More of my .02 worth.
Michael
"Hey hon, can u set up the table saw?"
I am looking for a smaller saw to support my cab installs, sounds like this one might fit the bill.
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I am looking for a smaller saw to support my cab installs,
That's what I bought it for. For big trim jobs I'll probably set up my Rigid, but I think this Dewalt is going to handle 90% of what I do.
I was ripping hardwood fillers on Friday, and the saw didn't blink an eye.
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Do you set yours up on a table or stand? on the ground? Compact looks awesome but i need it at the right height with stand... might as well set up the bosch...
DeWalt is supposed to be offering a stand for the 745, model 7450. From what the rep told me it's due to be released on October 16th (next monday), and in the big stores in November. Would be nice if there is a way to modifiy the stand for the 744 so it can be used for both saws.
Just messing around last night and ripped up some rain-soaked plywood scrap I had, and not even a squeak of protest from the saw. Darn thing runs better than the POS Delta Unisaw I got here in the shop.
I haven't looked at the Dewalt stand in awhile..could one cut a piece of 3/4" ply to fit the stand, and mount the smaller saw to that?
After looking at the dewalt website:
http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=15056
go to the section "see more detailed photos...." it looks like the stand has a curved piece on the front that hooks in behind the front roll bar of the saw to keep the saw from going backwards as you're cutting. Maybe the plywood to fit the stand and some u-clamps (muffler clamps?) to mount the saw to the plywood would be the cheaper way to go.
Guess I'll find out Monday when the 745's stand is due to be realeased with the price, but the wheels are churning with ideas already. May try to do some playing with it this weekend since I've got no work lined up.
yeah if you got both saws i'd be nice to be able to use the same stand.
One stand for both saws would be really great, IMO. Was checking the saw and stand at the local big box, and I'm formulating a plan, or at least trying to. If you come up with any ideas, let me know. Personally I'd hate to have two stands on the trailer, I'm cramped up enough in there now, but if there was a way to mount the smaller saw to the bigger stand, then that saves some space for other things.
I've been suffering from severe migranes this past year or so, sometimes my thinking isn't on an even keel. Any input you might have would help.
Michael
I'll look at the 2 saws and stand next chance I get...
I feel for you with the migraines..my mom has suffered from severe migraines ever since I was a little kid.
Just out of curiosity, do you own both the 744 and 745? What is your opinion of them compared side by side? I have them both, but mainly got the 745 for the weight savings.
Michael
I dont have either, But I have tried the 744 and liked it
I like the rack and pinion, but have heard the odd time if it goes out it is a bear to recalibtrate. I don't know if you have ever had any problems in that regard.
I got sold on the Bosch and love it.
I will still look at the Dewalts and throw any ideas I get your way
I assume that you have hte folding try style stand as opposed to the wheeled one.
looks like you should be able to cut some ply fit int here.( I had to look at pictures online - I wasn't at the yard to today where I know they have one.)
Then looking at the photo in the FHB ad, does it have those round bumbper pads on the front and back roll cage? from picture looks liek only on front.
I was thinking you could make some cut outs so that the those pads nestle into the plywood top.
or for the back roll bar fasten an "L" shaped strip of wood for the back roll bar to hook into and some raised blocks with a cut out to nestle the front pads into.
hard to tell cuz I dont' have the sawz to play around with..but you could use that as a starting idea.
I made a crude sketch to show what I mean.
or could simply go with the clamp idea.
( for those of youwho haven't seen the 745 ...sorry pic of saw didn't turn out)
Edited 10/12/2006 1:38 am ET by alrightythen
I cut a bunch of fillers with it this afternoon.
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what's a hardwood filler?
When installing premade cabinets, occasionally a filler between cabinets is necessary to make a run of cabs work out.
Most cabs are hardwood of some sort.
The supplier will send filler strips of the correct wood, and usually the correct length, the installer must rip what he/she needs.
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One thing that I'm nervous about with many of these saws is the thing that makes them handy - namely the weight.
I'm used to working with saws that have some substance and curious about how the "lightweights" handle when they have a 4x8 piece of hefty plywood atop them.
I've seen some of the "stands" that are sold to hold them, and these things remind me more of a couple pieces of wood that a waitress would use to balance a tray of dishes. What's up with that? If I need to start pulling out a couple horses and planks just for the tablesaw, where's the benefit? I can't see any sense in working on the ground. To me it's awkward and uncomfortable and that increases the risk of a bad cut (to the wood) and/or injury from loss of balance or doing something stupid.
Comments?
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I've got the older scissor type stand that came with my Bosch....absulety no problems with it, very stable.
I won't get the wheeled stand that you can get for the Bosch, because I'm often going up and down stairs. while the Bosch does have some weight to it when I hold the table up flat against my stomach I can easily get thru doorways etc..
You got it like 3 weeks ago and just used it Friday?
I think yer gonna be on probation with your Man Club mrmbership.
BTW, what's the word on that move to Phoenix?
what's the word on that move to Phoenix?
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Good luck!
didn't know you were thinking of moving?
good luck with what ever is going on.
One question... I gotta ask, is your g/f on board with this or are you two not speaking again ;)?
We're speaking(for now).
She's being open minded about the entire deal. Her family is here in Pittsburgh, and she is pretty close with them.
She's putting her time in working in a local hospital, but she is treating mostly elderly patients. She's wants to get into pediatrics, and there is more opportunity in Phoenix.
We're flying out together and we'll spend the weekend exploring(see also: shopping) the city. We've kind of tabled the discussion until she spends some time there.
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Edited 10/9/2006 8:40 pm ET by dustinf
Thanks, I will.
i'm sure you will,but before you buy one ,see it outa the box. i played with the fence and wasn't impressed with how it dropped on to the saw.i had to wiggle it a little,but that was me with no glasses! larry
hand me the chainsaw, i need to trim the casing just a hair.
I told them to uncrate the saw and put it on display. I'm going to check it out now. Will get back.
Saw one at HD last night. Slick little bugger - clearly designed to be used at floor level, or on a flat-topped table of some sort. Miter gage looked like a throwaway, though, and I don't think it had T-slots. Same rack-and-pinion fence as the big DW jobsite saw. Certainly easier to move around than most of the jobsite saws; my Ridgid is basically unliftable without another person.did<!---->Cure Diabetes - Death Valley 2006!<!---->
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Ridgid is basically unliftable without another person.
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Let me know what you think of the new saw. I've got the 744, but I'd like to get the smaller 745 for the weight/space saving aspect of it.
Michael
Will do.
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I ordered mine today. Home Depot has them in stock, but I deal with the local ACE Hardware store. the service is a LOT better there.
Should be a nice add-on to my tools, and a nice break for my bad back. My wife can pick this one up <G>.
Have you had a chance to try yours out yet? Let me know if you have and what you think so far.
Michael
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Dude, you bought a TS like a week ago, and you haven't found a piece of plywood crying out to be made smaller?I'm reportin' you to the Man Police.did<!---->Cure Diabetes - Death Valley 2006!<!---->
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Yeah, isn't that a man law, a new tool must be used within 4 hours of purchase?
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lol....I'd love to see a pic of all that wood with nails all shot thru it....lol
I've done that with every nailgun I've ever bought.You should see the stair posts in my basement... Plus the hole in my basement floor from when I got am SDS rotary hammer.JT
ohhhh....
went I got a new stud driver....
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I guess that's what happens if you con't have a site to try it out the next day......
oh yeah I forgot the "4 hour " rule.
I can picture the realtor when you go to sell the house....'gee I'm not sure what that hole is all about'
did the same...
case of nails sure don't last long..
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I just bought one. The fence is similar to the bigger Dewalt.
We'll see how it works.
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Really do let me know after you've used it. I was considering getting another Makita 2708 off of E-bay...I've had mine for almost 20 years now and it's like my right arm. they don't make them anymore. The saw is only an 8" and I would really like to have a 10", but I love how compact the 2708 is and the power is incredible. Mine is beat to hell now and I'm sort of at a crossroads. I like the bigger saws like the Bosch 4000 but they're more of a pain to haul up and down and this little Dewalt may be what I'm looking for.
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$369 @ Home Despot...I'd guess waiting would do you well. If the thing does well, it'll spawn some competition and the price, which seems steep to me, would likely drop the way the jobsite saw prices have.did<!---->Cure Diabetes - Death Valley 2006!<!---->
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the ad caught my eye.
but I was able to pick up a makita 2708 a while back. Lost about 10 on ebay then landed one for $125 plus under $20 for shipping ... and I had upped my bid to $250, I think ... was thinking I'd have to spend $300 if I ever wanted to land one!
anyways ... I'll take a close look at it. The little Mak is still lighter ... and that's why I wanted one. We'll have to see what it feels like ... maybe I'll have that little Mak for resale?
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/tls/217658495.htmlMight be a good deal for anyone in the area looking, huh?I have the Bosch, but if this were a bit closer I'd go check it out myself.JT
been trying to find a HD that had a dw745 on display...finally found one that would allow me to open the box, if I put it back in tha box...
looked like a really nice saw...good heft, and relatively small size, but a couple of questions hit me...would the dado throat plate from my 744 fit it, and how about the mitre slot, I didn't measure it, when I had the chance....since I didn't have all those christmas gift gift cards in my pocket, I repacked the box, and came on home..
when I got home, I called dewalt customer service...got a really nice guy, who told me they finally got a 745 in their area to look at....so I asked him about the throat plate...GET THIS...the 745 won't accept a dado set....it's blade retention system is like a circular saw, not a table saw....what was DeWalt thinking?
but the dado throat plate would fit....now I have to rethink whether I gotta have this saw or not....
I just bought it for simple rip cuts.
Anything more complicated is cut on my Ridgid, or cast iron cabinet saw.Bawitdaba da bang da bang diggy, diggy, diggy shake the boogie said up jump the boogie.
I myself really would have to think about doing dados in the 745. Ideally I would imagine that it was designed and built for site ripping materials, not dados.
On another note; Last week DeWalt rep told me that the stand for the 745 would be released on the 16th (last Monday), so I had my local Ace Hardware manager call to order one for me today. DeWalt is now saying that the stand won't be available till December or January sometime. Don't want to get on a rant, but why tell people something and then back up the date by 2 months?