I know when you do stuff yourself, they will be some mistake. I have one that been bother me for about a year , I need some advice what to do. so I will post pictures then ask question in next post.
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I had to run the vent around the window but they was a truss setting on top of the wall I did not want to cut. I been thinking about a wall cabinet with a fake back. But I aso have seen kitchen with a soffitt / Tray style ceiling. I do not know what they call it, like a fake box along the ceiling edge around the room. why do they do that. any ideas.
Edited 3/3/2005 10:11 pm ET by BROWNBAGG
They call it a soffit. And it's just for what you want one for. To run mechanicals in. They're pretty common here in houses with low roof lines.
Soffits are very common in rooms of all sorts as stated above. Here are a few I have installed. One was instlled to conceal plumbing as in your case. The other was installed to "dead-end" a drop ceiling because of a low ceiling and a high window in a basement. The window pic is dark but I hope you can see the use of the soffit. It doesn't seem too late for you to install one. Good luck. Show pics of the finished product.A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...BUT, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn...that was fun"!
go back to my last picture. would you do one wall or go completely around the room.
I'm assuming your sink is going under that window. If it is, you could build your soffit so that it covers the pipe and goes an equal distance past the window on the other side. Drop two or three cans or puck lights down into it to allow for some extra light into that area.
This soffit, is it only for that one pipe on the left, upper part of that picture? If so, why not make a column running down the wall instead of a soffit? It could be pretty low profile coming of the wall and only be a couple inches wide.A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...BUT, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn...that was fun"!
I think xhammerandnailsx made a good suggestion - Soffit the width of the sink with a couple of can lights.FWIW - Looks like that truss is setting on a bearing wall? If so, you probably could have cut the bottom chord with no ill effects. A call to the truss company would have answered that question for sure. Although your building inspector might have still given you a hard time about it.
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Re; your title, DIY NEVER make mistakes or screw up, they simply have 'learning experiences' <G>.
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Whoa! How'd you get those pictures of my basement??Molten
42" wall cabinet, notch for pipe.
My own place, I probably wouldn't even bother boxing it in.
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How'd you get to Arkansas? I thought you lived in Alabama.
Is that a coat hanger i see holding up that vent?, I love finding stuff like that when i get behind the gyprock on a remodel.
only other diy mistake i can see is dose that first bend on the vent happen 6" above the spill level of the sink that will be put in.... upc frowns on a vent that turns too early.. that and if that is 2" pipe there is not much 2x4 holding up that header for the window.
these are just some things i noticed from the pics, i could be way off base because i really don't now if its 1.5 or 2' pipe or the spill level of your sink... or .... or .. or even if you are required to fallow the UPC.
but the soffit will sort you out for that pipe hanging in your kitchen, run it all the way around above your cabinets and it will look fine.
james
"only other diy mistake i can see is dose that first bend on the vent happen 6" above the spill level of the sink that will be put in.... upc frowns on a vent that turns too early."It's find. It just can't turn horizonatal.The idea that you don't want a horizontal section where the backup can deposite sluge that will clog the pipe.Doing it with 45's is OK.". that and if that is 2" pipe there is not much 2x4 holding up that header for the window."That is not a header, It is just a nailing block.It is a concrete block structure.
correct, and right... brain fart, been a while since i ran pipe.
james
should have guessed it was a block house from the blocks in the attic... would have been a strange detail on a wood frame.
Hey. just a few tip if you are going to do these things your self. first. since that wall is not holding up much you could run that vent straight up through the rafter. its supported underneath. then add a 2 ft long 2x6 to gain lost strengh and screw it lots on the side stradelling where you ran the pipe through. there. no soffit necessary. then strap everything solid. its only going to cause you problems in the future. a proper roll of straping should only be about 3 bucks and enough to last you for many projects. next, the best tip ill give you is SLOW DOWN. its not a race. take a few extra minutes and make things perfect. if its an inch short, start over dont make it fit. go to your local home depot type store and ask. there really helpful.
remember, a cheap man pays twice.
good luck
Tmaxxx.
Yeah, a soffit is the thing to have, if it fits with your decor. Just be sure to seal the top opening of the soffit (with rough drywall, eg), since otherwise it "communicates" with the stud cavities and can result in a lot of air leakage.
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Johnny
Dont soffit the kitchen cabs, thats so 1970's.
If your building the cabs then just make one to fit around the bump-out.
If your buying them out then you can cut around the pipe and do some slight modification to the inside of the box to hide the cut out.
Besides if you do soffits then you can not put cabinets all the way to the ceiling, loosing all that space for what!
Doug
I was also going to suggest a soffit - one that runs the length of the countertop, above all the cabinets in the kitchen - but I like Doug's idea better. Just build/buy tall cabinets that go to the ceiling and cut a slot in the back of one to accommodate the pipe.
Don't you love it when you post photos and have one question, and people start picking on all kinds of things you never even thought about?
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I agree with Mike & Doug. A soffit would be way too much work for this little issue. Just hide it inside a cabinet. You lose only a small amount of space on the top shelf, which hardly gets used anyhow.
-- J.S.
But either way, pay attention to sealing the area, so there's no "communication" between attic and stud cavity.
I'm with Mike. Although not the best situation, I'd say leave it as it is is the best solution. A soffit would be a lot of trouble and have too much visual impact for this little issue. Once you get the cabinets up it will be much less noticeable, especially if you use 42" top cabs. (I'm guessing these are 8' walls) If they are 8' walls, 42" cabs will come nearly to the ceiling and crown on top of the cabs will make them come to the ceiling.
Even if you don't go with the 42" cabs., your wife (making another assumption here) will want to "decorate" on top of the cabinets... they most always do, and the crown attached to the top of the cabs will help too; The decorations will hide/obscure the little problem. No one will ever see it but you, and then after few years, you will not see it either :-)
See attached pics of our house. 42" cabs with 10' ceilings. Crown on top of cabs.
Edited 3/4/2005 7:59 am ET by DIRISHINME
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