Okay, all you carpenters & cabinet makers….do hinges come in lefts and rights? I’m talking regular butts…plain old 3 1/2 inch?
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inside, outside, up side down, right side up. revesed and even inside out but not in lefts and rights.... that I know of...
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Nope - maybe the handing of the door, but not the hinge itself.
No.
But nails and screws do.
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I always get the left handed screwdriver when i need a right handed screwdriver.
I HATE when that happens !!And when you actually want a left handed screwdriver, the world is overflowing with right handed screwdrivers, but nary a lefthanded to be found...I think the trick is to go to the toolbox mumbling to yourself that you need the opposite screwdriver from what you want. That way, when you get there, all of the screwdrivers that you didn't actually want, have gone into hiding, and you'll find the right one right away.
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Now, THAT'S fooling them!
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I'm gonna try that. My roll away box in the shop has a whole drawer of just screwdrivers and the one I need is always hiding. I think they should make a universal one (but that makes to much sense).
I tried it recently, and it worked !LOLThe trick is to remember to do it before you get to the toolbox.; )
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No because if they did, contractors would always order the wrong ones!
Mr T
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He did it again.
be roarin'"Live Free, not Die"
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That would work out just fine, because the yard would deliver the wrong ones - the two negatives making apositive, so I'm positive I would end up with the right ones.Unless, of course, I had wanted the left ones
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absolutely yes, but there's a secrecy oath about which is which and we'd have to kill anyone who told.
JR, an old timer taught me to install butt hinges so the three knuckles were on the door and the two knuckles were on the jamb. This makes it easier to hang the door because you get a better finger hold, and for the extremely detail-minded it provides symmetry. That said, I don't usually bother changing pre-hung doors, which come with either two or three knuckles on the door, but if I'm hanging my own door I think it's a nice little touch of quality.
Mike
Thanks for the straight-up answer....will post more on the subjet-later!
The problem is, of course, that the pin should go in from the top. If you flip the hinge to put three knuckles on the door then the pin can end up on the bottom (for hinges with a dummy pin head on one end).
Depends, many of those types of hinges are "fixed pin", so there is no right-side up. If they're loose-pin, buy the kind where the dummy ball/fillial is also removeable and can be moved to the other end..
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
Depends on how paranoid you are about the "fixed" pin. I don't trust them to stay in place against gravity. And putting the hinge pin-down also will make for some cusswords when someone wants to pop the pin and spends ten minutes hammering out the dummy.
then take it a step further and rotate the hinge... 180 degrees...
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But then the door will be upside-down.
that way you'd have to put the jamb in upside down too...
so they have to be rotated 180 L-R or R-L depending which swing ya got...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
But that would be good for people with tall legs or short arms.and the
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BTW....
did ya remember to flip over the hinges... turn 'em... it works... sometimes...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!
Nope...you drive out the dummy pin head.....good to go...
Mike,
You're quite right about that. Also, putting the two knuckles on the door itself will make it a little bit lighter.
However it must be pointed out that sometimes the manufacturer's name is stamped on the hinge and this must, of course, be placed right side up...
~Peter
>>JR, an old timer taught me to install butt hinges so the three knuckles were on the door and the two knuckles were on the jamb.<<
I've tried that, but it gets confusing, (left hand? right hand?) so today I put three knuckles on the door and the jamb. It's doubled my cost in hinges, but I'm sure this no-nonsence approach will be worth every penny later on.
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Gord
St.Margaret's Bay NS
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I finally thought of something that rhymes with "ORANGE" .....DOORHINGE!
rhymes with "ORANGE" .....DOORHINGE!
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For my first reaction is to cringe
If rhymed are orange to hinge--
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No, the pin is always at the top of the hinge. It makes no difference whether the hinge is used on a left or right hand door.When you hang the door , one leaf goes in the jamb and the other into the door.Now when you hang the opposite hand door, using the same exact hinge the jamb leaf becomes the door leaf ,and vice versa.
mike
maybe, and maybe not....I posted the discussion because I'm overseeing the installation of 1500 new, French, louvered closet doors on a hotel renovation project. We specified Haager hinges.....the GC's supplier sends some in brushed chrome, some in bright chrome, & some in brown (these are going on new white powder coated knock down jambs with snap on metal casing....a truly nasty & cheap product...and another story) , so that's problem number one...
The GC's door sub comes to us, shows us two different hinges -one type with both leaves flat, the other type with one leaf "offset" at the knucke, the other leaf flat. Lot's of discussion follows as to whether hinges come in left & rights, whether even if they do if it makes a difference as long as the reveals and margins are equal once the door is hung.
The hotel's chief engineer wants the door sub. to take the time to drive out the dummy pin head and flip the hinges over as necessary...the door sub says no way...
I say It's getting really tiresome getting materials made in China with no discernable quality control, and as far as the hinges if the door works & looks good who cares whether the higes are lefts and rights
Hence my post.....so for all you BTers who had fun, I enjoyed the laughs but it was a serious question....
that type hinge is universal.... L or R...
multiple axis unless there's something being missed....
which KD jamb are you using???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
WOW!!! What a Ride!
The vast majority of hinges have no left and right.Specialty hinges may.Such as the ones you describe as having an offset.That offset probably goes either to the jamb or to the door every time. In that case you would have to have lefts and rights. Or you would have to knock the dummy head off, and turn the pin 180.Door sub does the extra work. After change order, or add order is signed. Then bills the GC.GC then bills the supplier because they did not send out left and right hinges on a project that clearly calls for them. Supplier should have supplied exactly the right hinges for the doors.Tapping out that dummy head and flipping the pin over seems like an awfully petty thing for the sub to be bringing the job to a halt over.The sub is within their right to refuse, though. The correct hinges should have been supplied.
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The regular flat hinges are no problem , just make the door leaf the jamb leaf on the opposite hand installation. The offset hinge won't work this way. You have to remove the pin and reverse it. These are swing away type hinges, used mostly where you need more than the normal clearance. I've installed a few of these for wheel chair access. If I recall you get an extra two inches of clearance when the door is open.I believe this is what you describe as offset hinge.Are you speaking of swage hinges? The pin has to removed for some of these too.Full swage offsets the diameter of the pin,half swage 1/2 diameter of the pin.
You only need the regular hinge for these doors. The door sub should be paid extra for removing pin and reinstalling with some brand hinges.I had a few that were a real pita, most pins and caps are a few seconds to change.If there is a problem with the sub,have one of your people change the amount of hinges you need.
mike
Oh, I thought he meant for left-handed vs right-handed INSTALLERS....BTW, my understanding is that the leaf with more knuckles should go on the part with the greatest load, which seems like it is always the door, though I can imagine some bifold or double hinged something or other might be different.