I got to wondering about framers in the Pacific N.W. and all the rain they get up there. Do they frame in the rain? How much does the water affect the erected walls? Do the walls warp any once up and braced?
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The drying process warps them more. So, it's probably a good idea to tie everything into place before it drys. If it is held straight in the drying phase, it usually will stay that way.
Frame in the rain in the NorthWet?
Yes. If you don't, you don't get much done.
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The ToolBear
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I guess it doesn't affect framing as much as I thought. I was wondering about the walls warping and stuff like that but I guess they don't.
We frame in the rain in the NE also. If you don't it is hard to get a 40 hour work week in. We also frame in the snow and the cold to about 0. Lumber is not affected until it dries as Jim pointed out.
0? I like the cold, but only if I'm inside. I am from Texas though so I have never really seen cold.
0 with -20 wind chill, even I have limits!!!!!!!>G<
I guess it doesn't affect framing as much as I thought. I was wondering about the walls warping and stuff like that but I guess they don't.@@@Well, it's not a great deal of fun. There was a thread some months ago about a super up in the Wet looking for guys to frame in California. In Ca, if the word "rain" (which is a four letter word there) is even mentioned on the news, they start looking at a rain day. If it drizzles ... As the lumber is often green, you might think that a bit of rain keeps the moisture content up. Easy hand nailing <g>.Want to warp them? HabitatOC has the method: Frame a bunch of walls in March at a 1100 person extravaganza, then put them into containers over the summer where they can marinate in #### temps. Pull out in August and frame. Enjoy the subtle curves. Lots of them.The ToolBear
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It all depends on lumber and location. Southern Yellow Pine, like what is common around here, is like a gold medalist chinese female gymnast. Twisted in more ways than a politician. Braced correctly it is beautiful, but left to its own means it'll warp like spock and develope an oliver twist.If you are worried about things like this, tie your framing together with strongbacks as you frame, and pop these off when it's time to drywall.
Interesting . I have never framed with SYP as I am in the PNW and here it is Fir/Hemlock species. Worst I ever dealt with was a batch of KD spruce that went through monsoons while being framed. Ended up replacing a whole lot of those.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
SYP can be very bad...even if you try to hold it straight. Joists can hump up 2".I've never seen a spruce stud but we always installed RS 1x spruce trim. I like the stuff. It nails well, takes paint well and holds up if painted and caulked properly. It did tend to warp and cup if left un nailed out in the sun. Some pieces would be bumpy from knots but overall I really like the look...much better than cedar which typically had less rough sawn look.
we got 4.6 inches saturday, couple hours later you could not tell it rained
Thanks Kp. I'll try to stay away from syp.
Nice!!
""...Do they frame in the rain?""
So often that what rain gear to use creates bigger flame wars than those that happen at BT .
Mobile alabama get more rain than anywhere in the united states, but we get our everyday at 2pm
So how does daily rain affect flatwork scheduling? I would think you could have some problems when placing a couple hundred yards of exposed concrete.
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
we pour at 2am
Minor correction BB.
Mobile is the "City" having the most rain in the lower 48, but it is not the "location" with the most rain. Many places in the PNW get over 100" a year.
For many years there was a "company town" (Valsetz Or.) in the Ore. coast range south of where I live that averaged 130+ " of rain a year. Mobile Al.- 63"
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