So I go to use this sider for the first time and it double fires every 3 or 8 nails. Almost like I was bounce firing it. Checked manual and shows single fire trigger kit as option. I’m not concerned about bounce firing, (too slow)… ya think trigger kit will solve problem?
PJ
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I fought that for a while til I figured out I was the problem not the trigger.
When you hold the gun tight against something and pull the trigger it will double fire.
Try bouncing the gun off the surface you are nailing. Not lean on it. Worked for me.
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No kidding? Now that you mention it, it was like the recoil was triggering the second fire. So I gotta get limp wristed?
I was nailing some flashing so needed to be precise and kinda gentle. I'm so used to pulling trigger after safety's depressed 'cuz that's how most of what I do is. You're suggesting pulling trigger and then stabbing?
Can't even try it now, took the gun to repair shop, we'll see what they say.PJ
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>> You're suggesting pulling trigger and then stabbing?<<
Yes. Bounce the gun off the surface with a limp wrist. Stiff wrist or holding the gun against the surface will cause a double fire. Woods favorite carpenter
There are times when bounce firing is dangerous. The key to precision, one nail, nailing is to have very light and fast trigger finger. Instead of pulling it, tap it. Push down, tap the trigger and let the gun recoil in your limp wrist. Limp wrist is better. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
Yeah, what Jim and Matt said. Limp wrist. If you mash it in place and pull the trigger, it'll double fire. I thought about getting a different trigger too, but I caught on after a while. It's annoying, but can be overcome.
If you're young and hip you can catch on.I had an old guy that kept double hitting. We started calling out "one nail Ross" every time he double nailed. We were just young bucks and got a hoot out of aggravating him. One day I yelled, "..if you can't one nail it, just hand nail it!". I was kidding...he was not. He set the gun down and never used it again LOL! Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
My dad used mine and I think he triple nailed a few times. Never caught on. I told him to just give it a tap, but he would just push the gun against the siding, but it would still double fire. He was about to cut a coil up and hammer them in by hand. He's 79, dont think he's changing anytime soon, hard working guy.
he would find that after one nail of handnailing that it pays to learn to operate the gun
It's your technique as Matt has already stated. You don't possess the touch yet. It's new....keep working with it and that double hit will disappear.
The single kit could be your solution if you just cant get the hang of it.
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It's the old "Halstead Hammer"
The old Halstead nail guns were notorious for this.
You are holding the gun tight to the work after the first firing.
Relax your arm a bit and let the recoil drive the gun back away from the work. It does make using the gun to force a piece tight much more difficult to do without double fire occurring.
It does make using the gun to force a piece tight much more difficult to do without double fire occurring.
Got it.
Using the gun to push on things is something I'm used to doing...never really thought about it before. Ultimately, I guess I want it to work like my other guns so I can be lazy about picking up a special technique for this one. Come to think of it, that's why the framer's set to single fire.
I think I'll change the trigger. Wish it had a switch rather than a change-out situation.
Thanks all!PJ
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My hitachi's have a switch. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07
i went the single fire trigger route,seem like with hardi it was a dense enough product that the gun was kicking and hitting the siding for the second fire. before i changed the trigger 2 nails were very common a,a couple 3 nailers and the record was 4 before i could get off the trigger!
i use a old framing gun that weighs in about 11lbs [old duo fast],it doesn't recoil and my trigger technique comes from that gun.i pull and hold..... larry
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It could be that your wrist is too stiff, like others have said. But I bought a Bostitch siding nailer and it had the same problems for me after about 3-4 hours of use. I'm not a newbie at bounce nailing, so I didn't think that was it. So, I just lubed the hell out of the thing. No double firing since then. Might be worth a shot, but the repair shop would probably do that as a routine thing, if only to rule it out.
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